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- Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:15 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
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read the psalms. its in there too. Sort of...but no. The Hebrew word for soul is nephesh, meaning " a breathing creature" (taking a breath). There really isn't a word in the Hebrew language that describes the soul in terms of what modern english describes. The Hebrew system of thought doe...
- Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:21 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
- Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:57 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
I have discussed Jewish history. After a century of excavation we know today that the stories of liberation are myths. We seem to agree here so I won’t dwell on it. I have discussed early entry points of Persian ideas into Jewish sectarian culture and the elements they introduced, that later impacte...
- Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:53 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
You know Lothar, in some ways I think we are saying the same thing but from different perspectives. In terms of the movie “Zeitgeist”, we both agree that the movie itself is a propaganda piece. I’ve never said that the claims it made could be referenced to ancient manuscripts. Again, I don’t have pe...
- Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:18 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Thanks for that insight FSV. Well done. Therein lies the difference of opinion: the theistic view and the non. I continue to struggle with one aspect of this perspective and that is no matter what a person’s personal view, there was an actual history and course of events that is not dependant any of...
- Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:00 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
- Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:28 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
You have yet to show me any hard evidence to the contrary. All you have done is countered logical theory, and not provided anything other than christian rhetoric. I've been following this thread for a while. Let's take a look at this from a truly logical perspective. You made the following claim (p...
- Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:54 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Here is my perpective in a nutshell: When I do any historical reading about cultures that date from any period of antiquity there are stories of gods, goddeses, praising, smoting, and the things that go along with it. The cultures that surrounded (and spawned) the Jews were cultures from Mesopotamia...
- Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:49 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
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Each of the four canonical Bibles focus on Jesus from a different perspective: chosen king, servant, perfect man, God (in that order), while touching on the other three. Trying to frame that as a "contradiction" demonstrates shallow reasoning. Why is that? You mean to say that being a kin...
- Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:18 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Formerly SV There is an oxymoron taking place in this conversation in the sense that you (and Lothar) are asking for hard evidence against a story in which there is no hard evidence. It's all just conversational speculation anyway, from either point of view. To take it further is ungainful in any re...
- Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:03 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Lothar, thought I'd bored you enough! Glad your back, Kilaren has been keeping me on my toes and adding good discussion. I understand time constraints for online debates. Priorities. What I find In my research is that the history of Judeo/Christian belief systems is that it’s a long and complex seri...
- Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:09 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Gekko At this moment, I just thought of a character and I will name her Flamooey. I will imagine that she lives on the 14th moon of Earth and wears asteroids for earrings. Now (according to your logic) I honestly can't prove that she doesn't exist, even though I just thought of her right now. There ...
- Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:17 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Kilaren. You have to look at the big picture, and by that I'm mean the history of Judaism/Christianity and the cultural changes that occurred over a long period of time and how that impacted religion. Just looking at the time of 3AD to about 36AD does not tell us very much. Over the course of Jewish...
- Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:03 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Kilaren: The cultural parallels I am referring to are the ones outside of the bible. There is much evidence of ancient jews worshipping the bull (paintings in caves), that was a practice of their neighbors. Many early religions worshipped the bull. As to how it relates to the bible, the story of Mos...
- Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:36 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
I have read this before in my research on this topic. It’s interesting to note the Tektonic information used is cited from the same author that I linked above, David Ulansey. He genuinely seems to be an objective and enthusiastic scholar on this topic and likely the best source of information we hav...
- Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:30 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
For those that are interested, here are some links to information about the cult of Mithras. There are also Christian based sites that attempt to weaken the link between Christianity and Mithraism, but they haven’t done a very good job IMO. I am approaching this with an open mind. Here is the bio of...
- Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:22 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Kilarin In response to: “Christianity began absorbing a great deal of paganism only a few hundred years after it's start… and with good documentation to back it up” I am also aware that Christianity has absorbed a lot of Pagan rituals after it’s start. I am also aware that Christianity absorbed a lo...
- Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:38 am
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
In regards to your argument # 2, and last post: The Christians festivals are a carryover from pagan festivals. You agree. You make a comment or two about the semantics about the narration, but not an argument against the assertion. You mention the cross with a circle. You are correct in saying that ...
- Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:34 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Duper – I understand the time involved in researching such material, but I don’t see the harm in trying. The antithesis to this is having a completely uninformed opinion. I do take what I read with a grain (truckload) of salt. I also don’t believe the stories were compiled at one time. One of my poi...
- Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:21 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
Suit yourself Duper. Do no research at all. Lothar, As for the misunderstanding about the website reference. I am a member of a fishing website (I get fishing reports in my locale) FishBC. Fishing is my hobby – In my work I study them. BTW, this is what you asked. “JohnG, where did you originally fi...
- Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:56 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
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LOTS of info regarding that very point from the egyptian book of the dead. Take a minute yourself and research it.Duper wrote:roflmao. ooohkay.Horus the KRST. Jesus the Christ.
- Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:34 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
MONSTER POST WARNING Thanks for the reply Lothar. In regards to the movie (I got around to watching it) I found it interesting although I agree that it is presented in a propoganda-esque style. I am not an authority on religion by any means and also a non-believer, however, I have always been fascin...
- Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:18 pm
- Forum: Ethics and Commentary
- Topic: Zeitgeist
- Replies: 158
- Views: 29001
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Argument 3: On Astrological Ages One of the major claims of the movie is about the astrological ages . The age of Taurus the Bull lasts from 4300-2150 BC; the age of Ares the Ram from 2150 BC - 1 AD, the age of Pisces the Fish from 1 AD to 2150 AD, and the age of Aquarius the water-bearer will begi...