D2X-XL suggestions thread

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:29 pm

Nikolai,

no frame around automap with fullscreen cockpit.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:13 pm

I suggest that there not be any hard coded trackers. I think all trackers should be specified through the command line options (ini file). For the past 2 days, there have been no trackers available, and I'd like to be able to test each tracker individually (by modifying the command line options). Also, if a tracker is hard coded and 10 years from now the tracker no longer exists, there's no way to remove it.

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:13 pm

You can always turn off the internal trackers via d2x.ini.

Added player ping display and packet loss ratio per player for network games. Toggle with Ctrl+F7. Note that packet loss is only measured via the ping requests (#returned / #sent); this is like the D1X code does it (I checked it).

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:14 pm

Awesome. Is there a list somewhere of the internal trackers so I can add them through the ini file?

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:39 pm

Yes, in main/tracker.c.

Pumo · Post by **Pumo** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:18 pm

The weapon colored light is very, very nice now

However, the explosion hit of the weapons lights white.
Could the weapon hits light with the same color as the weapon, or at least with the color of the hit bitmap?

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:32 am

No, because the light is derived from the object casting the light, and the explosions are mainly white.

Pumo · Post by **Pumo** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:42 am

Oh well, anyway, the new light system is impressive

I love you so much Diedel!!

j/k

Nicolay.G · Post by **Nicolay.G** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:27 am

Hello, I would like to have the option to play using both the mouse and the joystick like in Descent 3.

What do you think about it?

Nico

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:29 am

Nico,

That's feasible.

Pumo,

colored light turning white when shooting can be caused by the light values adding up.

Nicolay.G · Post by **Nicolay.G** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:46 am

Please, gimme gimme.

I was spoiled by D3.

Alternatively, you can tell me which .c file I have to modify...

RoBoT · Post by **RoBoT** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:27 pm

I don't know what kind of relevance this'll hold, but here it goes:

I'd like to see an option that'll allow you to animate parts of your ship model where applicable. For instance, if you use GXEdit to turn your Pyro GX into a PEST, you could move his cannons anyway you need to.

Offtopic: You know the GX's top wings only fold themselves in once in the entire series during the D2 intro? I wonder why they never do that anymore...aside from the fact that they scrapped it in D3.

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:37 pm

Nico,

added it already. Needs some testing before release though.

RoboT,

whaaaat? I don't know what you are thinking of. Ship models aren't animated in-game like robots.

RoBoT · Post by **RoBoT** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:52 pm

Never mind. Wasn't that good an idea, anyway.

RatoN · Post by **RatoN** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:34 am

I have a suggestion

Descent 1 and 2 missions share the same .hog file type. If you have a Descent 1 and 2 mission with the same file name, they can conflict, so my suggestion is a seperate folder for Descent 1 missions.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:35 am

Good idea.

Neumaennl · Post by **Neumaennl** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:52 am

just make a subfolder in the missions folder

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:17 am

Conflicts can only arise for clients in multiplayer games, where the mission to be loaded is determined by the mission name sent by the game host. Such a conflict cannot be resolved by putting D1 missions in a separate folder, as D2X-XL will search all subfolders of the mission folder for a mission with a matching file name. Afaik there are very few, if at all, D1 and D2 missions with the same name though.

Aus-RED-5 · Post by **Aus-RED-5** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:19 am

Diedel wrote:Conflicts can only arise for clients in multiplayer games, where the mission to be loaded is determined by the mission name sent by the game host. Such a conflict cannot be resolved by putting D1 missions in a separate folder, as D2X-XL will search all subfolders of the mission folder for a mission with a matching file name. Afaik there are very few, if at all, D1 and D2 missions with the same name though.

Would it be possible to make D2x-xl look for D1 in a D1 folder only?
Just a thought.

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:23 am

That wouldn't help - unless that folder wouldn't be a subfolder of the missions folder. You can uncheck 'play d1 missions' (or d2 missions) in the main menu though if you know you'll only be playing levels of one Descent version. The other version's level shouldn't be loaded then.

Aus-RED-5 · Post by **Aus-RED-5** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:31 am

Yep. I installed D2 in 2 diferent folders anyways.
D2x-xl folder, and a D1x-xl folder. This works for me.

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:15 am

I could add a 'mission_dir' switch to D2X-XL, allowing you to simply create two different d2x.inis and launch d2x-xl via a symbolic link where the d2x.ini to be used is specified in the command line. Then you don't even need two different locations to store the exe.

Btw, I am currently 'hardening' D2X-XL's UDP/IP code against packet loss, building a feedback mechanism into it where packet loss can by noticed and missing packets can be re-requested. This will be toggleable, and might help ppl with flaky network connections a little.

Aus-RED-5 · Post by **Aus-RED-5** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:37 am

Diedel wrote:I could add a 'mission_dir' switch to D2X-XL, allowing you to simply create two different d2x.inis and launch d2x-xl via a symbolic link where the d2x.ini to be used is specified in the command line. Then you don't even need two different locations to store the exe.

I guess so.
I think my idea works in such a way that only the D1x-xl folder has the D1 data files with the very basic install of D2 v1.2 data files ( no vertigo installed ) plus D2x-xl ( version 1.5.14x and up ).
But then my idea might not make much of a difference really.

Diedel wrote:Btw, I am currently 'hardening' D2X-XL's UDP/IP code against packet loss, building a feedback mechanism into it where packet loss can by noticed and missing packets can be re-requested. This will be toggleable, and might help ppl with flaky network connections a little.

Cool, but sofar I haven't had probs with the latest version.
Either way. I'm sure you'll do us proud!

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:40 am

I have been told that D2X-XL tends to disconnect players if there are 4 or more participants in a multiplayer game. I'd like to have this confirmed or denied, but I wonder whether so many players can be found at a given time. I'd also like to know whether this might rather have to do with connection quality than with D2X-XL.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:44 am

We had a 4-player game today that lasted a good while. I don't know if anyone got disconnected. I didn't.

By the way, there are even D1 missions that have the same name as other D1 Missions:

Example:
Athena by Spaz
Athena by Luke Schneider

Pumo · Post by **Pumo** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:34 pm

Hey Diedel, what about a quick save key like in D3?

Nicolay.G · Post by **Nicolay.G** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:16 am

Good!

I wanna try it! I think I can beta-test it for ages.

Is it in the last version online ?

spud · Post by **spud** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:22 pm

I haven't seen d2x-xl disconnect players in large IPX games. I often play in > 4 player games on Kali. I can't speak for UDP/IP games however.

spud

Peterix · Post by **Peterix** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:13 pm

Shouldn't the lasers in D1 be different? I noticed while playing d1x, that they use different models. For example in D1, laser lvl3 is blue and in d2x-d1 it's almost white.

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:20 pm

D2X-XL currently only uses D1 level textures, not polymodels or bitmaps (like e.g. explosions).

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:27 am

I'd like an option to view the D1 credits and the Vertigo credits.

EDIT: On the Load Game and Save Game screens, it would be neat if there were some sort of indicator as to whether they are D1 or D2 games.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:32 pm

The new full-screen graphical gauges need some sort of number value next to it. It's quite hard to estimate how much energy/shield you have right now. It will kinda defeat the purpose of getting rid of the text, but extra eye candy is always better

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:53 am

You can always have the text. Actually, the only important information is if the value gets low.

I could add a flashing effect in such a case ...

Pumo · Post by **Pumo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:43 pm

I would like D2X could read direct MVE files from the Movies folder.

I have an AVI2MVE converter and want to test some custom movies but i can't put the movies onto an MVL file 'cause i can't find an MVL Archiver.

So, could D2X read MVE files directly?

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:29 am

I have no clue about either file format, so if D2(X(-XL)) uses mvl, I wouldn't know how to make it understand mve.

Neumaennl · Post by **Neumaennl** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:59 am

there is some program by HH-Soft inside the Descent Manager tools which can extract MVE from MVL - you might want to check if it can insert MVE into MVL also

I'm not quite sure if I have this program somewhere - rather not

you might want to search the net for the old dos descent manager or ask someone in the forum

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:28 am

I'd like to get D2X-XL to support the D1 Demo. I got it working insomuchas it loaded the mission and played the briefing screen.

However, when it tries to actually load the level, I get this warning:

In order to get this far, I had to have both the D2Demo data and the D1Demo data in the same directory. To get the menu to load, I had to delete Descent.pig. Then after the main menu loaded up, I put Descent.pig.

If I try to load the mission while Descent.pig is still missing, I get this error instead:

In either case, the game exit-crashes if I try to continue through.

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:04 am

D1 demo data link pls.

(I'm lazy

).

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:22 am

http://www.download.com/3000-2095-855421.html

EDIT:

On a related note, I'd like to see a command line option for D2X-XL that specifies which set of data to use.

Something like:

-mainhog d2demo.hog

or something like that. =)

Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:13 am

Thx.

I am afraid I won't get this to work. The d1 demo data format depends on some description table in the data that describes a lot more than only the textures, and it would require a massive amount of work to filter through this.

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