Microsoft is begging

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:45 am

If someone does make available a DX10 port, won't the MS big brother police become aware of it on your computor? If so what actions might they take if they (MS) don't approve?

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:00 am

MS probably won't care enough to chase people up over it; the only thing that would concern them is if a DX10 port became quite big. (Edit: On the other hand there IS Mono, which doesn't seem to concern them much; possibly that's because it actually helps them, though.)

Problem is, I doubt it will; by the time it's particularly mature most people will probably be on Vista anyway.

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:57 pm

my biggest complaint is this.

Idleing vista sucks up 700mbs of ram on my laptop and it had a gig in it.

WTF i have that same laptop with XP 200mb idle

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:14 pm

Vista is also known to drain battery power faster in laptops than if you were to have XP on it.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:11 pm

i think superfetch might be causing all that ram to fill. And since it's using more ram i guess it uses more electricity.

Gekko71 · Post by **Gekko71** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:07 pm

Sirius wrote:Actually, the other thing which would help is better support for roaming profiles; say you could, for instance, save all of your documents and settings to a USB drive or some other shareable memory such as a web storage account, and load those up on any computer you logged in to.

I saw an external HDD that did exactly this in an in-flight magazine two days ago. It claimed to work with XP - don't know about any other OS though.

I tried Vista for the first time yesterday (not on MY computer thank God

) and the bloody thing wouldn't play the perfectly good DVD I burned at home - wich runs on every other DVD player I've tried it on perfectly well. All the content on the DVD was my own (adverts my company has created)and the copy was perfectly legal (I'M the bloody copyright owner for s**t's sake!) And this was a presentation in front of several important clients - which made me look like a complete wanker.

Just in case there's someone undecided out there: DON'T BUY VISTA!!

Zantor · Post by **Zantor** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:36 pm

Enzo-03 wrote:i am going to cry when windows stops supporting xp now, all because of vista.
and how vista doesnt support direct sound is like how xp doesnt support dos, and halo 2 pc is only for vista: microsoft deliberately made their new software incompatible with their own old software, or at least the halo 2 one can be seen that way .

The Halo 2 requiring Vista is typical Micro$noT forced migration. I have a contact who works for Microsoft, and I can get many people who don't have such a connection M$ software for less than academic prices.
I know of a company that is planning to remake Halo 2 so it will run on windows xp and DirectX 9.

CDN_Merlin wrote:They made to many changes to Vista. Direct Sound is no longer used so every older game needs to have the sound redone with Vista's sound engine which causes headaches.

They dropped the bomb with Vista. Also, having to have higher hardware requirements doesn't help either.

True, that's a stupid idea, dropping Directsound when so many programs use it. Another thing I agree with is why require such BEEFY hardware? You can make XP run on a Pentium II w/ 128 MB of SDRAM! It's not pretty or fast, but it works.

Topher wrote: As for the future, why do I have to reboot my computer? It's silly, I want to add a new sound card or upgrade to a new OS. There should be no need to reboot as it eats up time.

Yeah, go ahead and fry your system by plugging a non-hotplug peripheral in while the computer is running. [/sarcasm]

roid · Post by **roid** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:19 am

we used to unplug/plugin ATA hard drives while the pc was running in school. iirc it worked as long as the pc wasn't accessing it at the time!

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:46 pm

A few months back I saw the emperor himself, Bill Gates, show up on Comedy Central's, \"The Daily Show\", hyping his new tool to control the masses and make himself richer, 'Vista' to John Stewart. It was like watching a train wreck, morbidly fascinating.

The audience was openly hostile to Gates and you could tell he was getting madder and madder as the interview progressed. John Stewart was a riot, asking him deviously funny questions. You could tell John was holding back though.

The only thing that would have made the show complete would have been to bring out John Hodgman, the PC guy in the Apple commercials, who is also a regular on the show.

Interview them side by side. That would have made my day. At least Gates stormed out at the end. You could tell he was mad. Maybe he's finally figuring out he makes a piece of crap product, although I doubt it.

XP may be finally almost complete but Microsoft is STILL patching security holes. Vista's going to be a bigger nightmare.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:00 pm

AAAAAND.......... yet another reason to avoid Vista.

http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/07/14/071237.shtml

Its looking more and more like Minority Report in a box every month.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:16 pm

Aren't some of those features only available in the business versions? (and you can disable them)

If you really want to be secure that nobody will be able to take your hard drive and find out what kind of porn you were watching over the last year, the only solution is having a system that can ensure a complete physical destruction of the drive platters themselves on demand. Regardless of what version of windows or any other OS you might be using.

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:00 am

Well i just blew Vista off my office laptop cause it was really boging down but befor my batt only lasted 1:30 on the batt 2 hours if im lucky but with XP its up to almost 4 hours and no more burring the crap out of my lap.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:34 am

o_0

There's something you don't read in the reviews.

DarkFlameWolf · Post by **DarkFlameWolf** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:44 pm

Can I have a video of this? SERIOUSLY?!

tunnelcat wrote:A few months back I saw the emperor himself, Bill Gates, show up on Comedy Central's, "The Daily Show", hyping his new tool to control the masses and make himself richer, 'Vista' to John Stewart. It was like watching a train wreck, morbidly fascinating.

The audience was openly hostile to Gates and you could tell he was getting madder and madder as the interview progressed. John Stewart was a riot, asking him deviously funny questions. You could tell John was holding back though.

The only thing that would have made the show complete would have been to bring out John Hodgman, the PC guy in the Apple commercials, who is also a regular on the show.

Interview them side by side. That would have made my day. At least Gates stormed out at the end. You could tell he was mad. Maybe he's finally figuring out he makes a piece of crap product, although I doubt it.

XP may be finally almost complete but Microsoft is STILL patching security holes. Vista's going to be a bigger nightmare.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:27 pm

It was on a few months ago:

Really long-ass link.

Gekko71 · Post by **Gekko71** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:05 pm

Top Wop wrote:It was on a few months ago:

Really long-ass link.

That particular version seems to be incomplete. Anyone have any other links to it?

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:19 pm

Maybe Comedy Central will rerun it. Sooooooooooooooo funny.

Right now I'm REALLY pissed off at Microsoft. The other user of my XP computer went to Windows Update and tried to update the driver of the SB Creative Audigy 2 card with a 'supposedly' newer 'signed' driver.

It didn't even get to the sign off and reboot stage before the dreaded BSD! After getting back into Windows, no sound and CTHelper.exe was running amok, filling up memory and giving an error! Son of a @%#$&!

After another BSD, safe mode and uninstalling the SB driver altogether and downloading the new driver from Creative, it SEEMS to be working. I'll try it out tomorrow.

All this because I installed Splinter Cell Double Agent and the newest version of DX 9.0c, which I THOUGHT I already had, which then caused an error message with the Sony Vegas Movie program, which griped about the sound driver, hence the update to the sound card. More @#%^#@$& to Microsoft!

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:00 am

I can't be too unhappy with them considering the amount of stuff I've gotten from MS this year.

Not that it makes Vista terribly good, but hey.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:11 am

Going to MS to ask for drivers is just asking for trouble. I could've told you that ten years ago.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:02 am

For all those looking for the Bill Gates interview, I found the full version.

Here are the links to the two parts of the Comendy Central Daily Show John Stewart interview with Bill Gates:

Bill Gates Part 1
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload ... ideo=81467

Bill Gates Part 2
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload ... ideo=81466

NOTE: The audio of the audience groaning during the original TV airing seems to be inaudible in these clips (I clearly heard them groaning when I watched the show live). Maybe Bill is a better hacker than we think, NOT! But you can see Gates walking off the set (in part 2) and Stewart commenting about it to Gate's back.

I wonder if Gates refused to go on the show with John Hodgman (Daily Show regular and \"PC guy\" in Apple commercials) because Gates has no sense of humor. Go check out this link of Hodgman here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hodgman

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