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Aerogel - coming to a space suit near you...

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...Freaky stuff! Check it out... :o

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=288928
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o_o

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this could do a LOT to revolutionize everything from weaponry to household appliances. Question is.. is it biodegradable?

Last thing we need is to create another \"plastic\" crisis by utilizing a material which takes millions of years to biodegrade or expells toxic pollutants when melted down...

If this is a recyclable material, it very well COULD revolutionize the world.
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I have much lurb for aerogel. It's amazing stuff.
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Lothar wrote:I have much lurb for aerogel. It's amazing stuff.
It sounds like you're familar with the stuff Lothar - do you know it from your work or something - and if so, in what capacity? :)
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i think i wrote some ZZZonline articles about Aerogel back in the day. It's been out a looooooongcat time.

seeing it in action is pretty spectacular.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aerogel


I wouldn't worry Blue, it's easily crushed, it's like 99.999999% nothing. IIRC the latest aerogels are nothing but Carbon and um.... methanol or air or vacuum or something (i forget).

it pings & rings just like glass when you tap it.
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Gekko71 wrote:do you know it from your work or something
I taught at an air and space museum, so I heard a lot about it in conjunction with Stardust.
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Wow that's some cool stuff.
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something i've always wondered: If the space between the fibers of Aerogel is vacuum - would it be possible to make an Aerogel solid that is lighter than air? that would be amazing, i'd pay $50 for that
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roid wrote:something i've always wondered: If the space between the fibers of Aerogel is vacuum - would it be possible to make an Aerogel solid that is lighter than air? that would be amazing, i'd pay $50 for that
Dude! I'd pay $500 for that! Even $5,000! I mean, you could pretty much fly using it!
Wait, is it a vacuum?
Oh, and according to Wikipedia:
"The world's lowest-density solid is a silica nanofoam at 1 mg/cm3, which is the evacuated version of the record-aerogel of 1.9 mg/cm3. The density of air is 1.2 mg/cm3."

Also, it's worth remembering that Aerogel is very absorbent and don't last very long before disintegrating. Which makes it pretty incompatible as building material.
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well thar you go!

evacuated silica nanofoam, 20% lighter than air itself
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roid wrote:well thar you go!

evacuated silica nanofoam, 20% lighter than air itself
Then why doesn't it float up like an He2 balloon? At least, not in the video posted above.
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coz it's not evacuated in those videos, it's probabaly full of air or aids or something.

btw helium is about 10% the weight of air, this EVACUATED aerogel is only 80% the weight of air. It's not gonna shoot anywhere too fast :(
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Heh, caveat emptor! Dude spent $150 on non-evacuated aerogel. Or maybe he should have bought some evacugel?
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If the aerogel was evacuated of all air, wouldn't the surrounding air pressure crush it flat when it was exposed to the atmosphere?
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nope. It's like a thermos bottle, only without the glass.
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