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Alright well, I've decided 25 will be the magic number. If I can get 25 names that will commit to joining and actively playing, I'll look into beginning development on this ladder. There are already some detractors out there saying it won't happen.

1. Spud
2. Behemoth
3. Deliverance
4. Zero
5. Koolbear
6. Flip
7. Foil
8. Ryujin
9. Wavetrades (d2)
10. Kolo
11. JazzyJet
12. IsAB

Got a long way to go.
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your never gonna get 25, atleast put it to 20. btw the most i ever got for a tournament was 16 players so thats saying a lot towards your magic number :)
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add me and I will hit the Rangers up I and sure we can pull some of them we have about ~20 active d2 pilots
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If you include D1 + D2 + D3 pilots, you can get 25.

I'm in.
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I'll play some D2 matches!
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Well, I have been trying to put the word out about this ladder deal. However, the usual response that i'm getting is this: "Why would I join a ladder that I have no chance of moving up on." or "I'd rather just have the elite pilots destroy me in anarchy..instead of killing us one by one on some ladder" And i have to say.. they have somewhat of a point. You have to admit that these days there is a large "skill gap" between the elite pilots of today.. and pilots like me, which are rather mediocre. I see very few names on the list above that I have any chance of beating. which begs the question: Why join a ladder that I will sit at the bottom of?? Thatgets old rather fast. Don't get me wrong I DO WANT a ladder. i have fond memories of ladder matches back in the day... but we would need more pilots that I stand a chance against. Deliverance, Bagheera, isAB, Leon, have all owned me and also vice versa. which makes me interested in matching them. Ryujin, Behe, Zero, and Darktalyn... makes for a rather boring ladder. No offense guys :) I'm still in...just wish I saw some names up there that would make it more interesting.
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Yeah, it is a good point. If it was meant to be, we'd have a good list of people of all skill levels by now. That's what makes a good ladder is good amount of people of all skill levels. To me 25 would at least generate a top 5 that might be somewhat meaningful but we're not even close to it after several days. It was a great nostalgic idea but I don't think it's quite ready for primetime at this point. As much as I'd love to have a custom ladder for the community, it'd be tragic to see all that work go unused. Tell you what though, if a new Descent comes out and I have free time and the skills to do it, I'll do it up.

KB, feel free to merge these back to multiplayer or archive at your convenience.
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here's an idea: if an elite beats a relative newcomer, award the winner either one or no points. If a newcomer beats or even ties an elite, give them a lot of points.

that way, people will get points based on how well they do against the opponent.
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Too complicated, just make the ladder a straight up month long rolling total kills count. That way the #1 slot can be a person with horrible efficiency that just plays more matches than anyone else.
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I found a few ladder scripts that we could use so maybe noone has to spend any effort to create the ladder. We might want to use on of those Maybe the same ladder data could be displayed in a few different formats.

Didn't Case's Ladder do something like what Ferno mentions?
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I'd love to get back into it. Don't know if I can put my hands on those old descent cd's but I'll dig around and see if I can find 'em.
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KoolBear wrote:Didn't Case's Ladder do something like what Ferno mentions?
I don't recall, but the magic tourneys I play in do a similar setup.

Yes, i'm playing Magic the gathering. It's so much fun when you can either destroy someone with six thousand creatures you generate or drop a nuclear bomb in the form of 500 direct damage. :D
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Why not find a formula for giving each player a skill rating and award win points based on that? Beat a higher skilled player, get more points.
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Hey i'd sign up for the ladder so count me in...

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Avder wrote:Why not find a formula for giving each player a skill rating and award win points based on that? Beat a higher skilled player, get more points.
ummmmm, I just said that.
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As I said earlier.. I DO want a ladder. Add Kolo to the list and i'll get on fiend to start posting as well and see if he's interested.. maybe we can get ten names up there and the rest will follow.
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umm, ryu you should be on that list too
and most of the players that pop in and out every now and then.. this is not a tourney, it's people who are interested in a competitive ladder of descent players, not just for d3 but 1 and 2 also.
i'll try to get some people to see this so they can post because i'm sure many more would be interested they just haven't seen it yet.
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KB might have a solution that requires little to no work so stay tuned!
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hope you guys can keep up
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lol don;t tell anyone but I am too :P

Ryujin, might end up reinstalling this tonight. Can't seem to get the admin accounts back :) my player account is fine... lol
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Please add JazzyJet and isAB to the list. :-)
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Count me in, if I can figure out how to get a js to work.
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The effort is still ongoing, for those that have already signed up on this site please test the features out! P We need feedback please!
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I registered on the site, but never got my activation email. :?
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Foil, we had /have two sites.

The one that is working is lad.6dofbb.com the other has admin login issues that I haven't resolved yet and the guy I paid for it says he needs access to myphpadmin :P
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KoolBear wrote:Foil, we had /have two sites.

The one that is working is lad.6dofbb.com the other has admin login issues that I haven't resolved yet and the guy I paid for it says he needs access to myphpadmin :P
Mike, that page isn't working at all. Goes to some placeholder.
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Knopi wrote:
KoolBear wrote:Foil, we had /have two sites.

The one that is working is lad.6dofbb.com the other has admin login issues that I haven't resolved yet and the guy I paid for it says he needs access to myphpadmin :P
Mike, that page isn't working at all. Goes to some placeholder.
DOH! http://lad.6dofbb.net guess I beeter register .com ;)
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IN!
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BUDDHA! haven't seen you in an eternity
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Buddha!! :D

Where've ya been?
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I'll sign up for the tourney, but I probably don't belong on the list. I doubt I'll end up being a "regular attender"
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Behemoth what else do you require to get this rolling? Ryujin where did you disappear too :)

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I think once it's up and running and people see that games are being played, more will join in. I'm excited!
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Behemoth wrote:BUDDHA! haven't seen you in an eternity
Foil wrote:Buddha!! :D

Where've ya been?
Hey guys! It's great seeing everyone again. I really appreciate the work that goes into keeping sites like this running, I hope it never dies =D
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Hello Budda!

Great to see these old names rolling in.
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Gollee guy's, so sorry i've been away for a few days
but i'm back, and KB i can't think of anything, as long as it works.
Perhaps we should have some people sign up and test it out?
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I will have to respectfully to bow out of this project for several reasons. The biggest of which are other priorities that have cropped up. Also, unfortunately, I dont feel that there is quite enough interest. Good luck and if time frees up again, I'll be sure to get some games in.

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If there's anyway i can help to get this thing rolling i'd be glad to do it, i have lots of time these days.
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email me and Behemoth we'll see about it.I am strapped on time but the script should be working fine
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Sir Yes Sir! D1 and D2 for me!
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