Hollywood is the epitome of poseur....

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:41 pm

Not just its product which is expected and appropriate, but in its soul which is absolutely not.

I'll never enjoy another action adventure movie again without remembering the complete cowardice of Sony and the consensus of Hollywood for their role in making Kim Jung dipstick fat boy a more ferocious terrorist than any real threat that ever did take a life.

If I was Obama I'd buy the rights to The Interview and offer it for free to theaters and use the profits to create little doughboy Kim Jung dipstick dolls shaped out of urinal cakes to put in restrooms around the country.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:53 pm

Personally, I really admire the latest vomit urging Hollywood, that they were able to turn such talented actors like Pierce Brosnan and Denzel Washington in the feces sickening anti-Russian propaganda. I mean "The November Man" and "The Equalizer". Moreover, I understand that in order to attract American audiences must use the "Russian theme" that justify the cost for creating movies. I do not have anything against it. But these films are made so stupid that I just feel sorry for the great actors.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:59 pm

Will, you think Sony made the decision to cave, or that our government told them what to do in the name of national security? I noticed that Sony also pulled another oldie piece of trash from circulation too, Team Fortress America, although I don't know how they can possibly bury that piece of junk so easily.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:53 pm

I think Sony did hoping to keep more damning material from being released
But I'm a hopeless cynic.

Wouldn't be surprised if our current government likes the appeasement approach though

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:17 pm

Will Robinson wrote: Wouldn't be surprised if our current government likes the appeasement approach though

Yup. With money or missiles.
Apparently Japan imee much greater economic independence, unlike France, which is even willing to compromise the integrity of the French business and cause to reflect deeply on the major contracts with that unfortunate country. Incidentally, this is the American taxpayers will be to compensate this if you do not know.

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:07 pm

Russians make the most bad-ass bad guys.

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SilverFJ · Post by **SilverFJ** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:40 pm

Yeah, weak move.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:39 am

Why is Russia even mentioned here,

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:40 am

Incidentally, it is very interesting what the Soviet and Russian films and TV series you watched and what you like or dislike?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:54 am

Will Robinson wrote:I think Sony did hoping to keep more damning material from being released
But I'm a hopeless cynic.

Wouldn't be surprised if our current government likes the appeasement approach though

except your government, via it's elected President, has condemned it. Can't face the truth again, huh?

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:56 am

callmeslick wrote:
Will Robinson wrote:I think Sony did hoping to keep more damning material from being released
But I'm a hopeless cynic.

Wouldn't be surprised if our current government likes the appeasement approach though
except your government, via it's elected President, has condemned it. Can't face the truth again, huh?

Are you implying our government does not lie to us? Doesn't say one thing but do the other? Doesn't bend over backwards to appease people they shouldn't?
Obama condemning something proves nothing. You citing that condemnation as evidence proves you are either foolish or a partisan kneejerking hack compelled to defend him at any sign of criticism. In this case all I said was I thought it WASNT the government's doing but wouldn't be surprised if they approved.

Trouble facing the truth? I'm the one who points out the truth.
You are the one who will say anything to protect the current head of the government no matter what.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:01 pm

sigma wrote:Incidentally, it is very interesting what the Soviet and Russian films and TV series you watched and what you like or dislike?

Okay. I reformulate the question. Americans do not have the opportunity to watch Russian films, because they can not find a translation into English or the Americans basically do not want to watch movies from Russia to expand your horizons and get a better idea of Russia, because it is taboo for Americans and unpatriotic?

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:55 pm

Here's another good reason. Movie theater owners are the one's who caved. They started refusing to show the movie out of fears of some sort of terrorist events, like the one in Colorado, so Sony no longer had any venues to show it. That doesn't rule out some other form of release however.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:16 pm

sigma wrote:
sigma wrote:Incidentally, it is very interesting what the Soviet and Russian films and TV series you watched and what you like or dislike?
Okay. I reformulate the question. Americans do not have the opportunity to watch Russian films, because they can not find a translation into English or the Americans basically do not want to watch movies from Russia to expand your horizons and get a better idea of Russia, because it is taboo for Americans and unpatriotic?

There is another reason we would pass on your films. We are too well aware of the lack of freedom and have no interest in the 'approved' film list of the KGB/ Polit Bureau. Things may be different there now but it will take decades before we would begin to be open to the possibility that what you have is genuine and not edited by government or written to satisfy government.

In short, any country that puts musicians in prison for their song lyrics is not the kind of place that makes good films.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:12 pm

Will Robinson wrote:
sigma wrote:
sigma wrote:Incidentally, it is very interesting what the Soviet and Russian films and TV series you watched and what you like or dislike?
Okay. I reformulate the question. Americans do not have the opportunity to watch Russian films, because they can not find a translation into English or the Americans basically do not want to watch movies from Russia to expand your horizons and get a better idea of Russia, because it is taboo for Americans and unpatriotic?
There is another reason we would pass on your films. We are too well aware of the lack of freedom and have no interest in the 'approved' film list of the KGB/ Polit Bureau. Things may be different there now but it will take decades before we would begin to be open to the possibility that what you have is genuine and not edited by government or written to satisfy government.

In short, any country that puts musicians in prison for their song lyrics is not the kind of place that makes good films.

Thank you for your honest opinion. Sadly it all. I'm not even going to persuade you. I will only add that you have no idea what the real Russia.
I can only advise you to get acquainted with the poetry Sergei Yesenin. Then you will learn a lot about the soul of Russia. I misspoke. Because being a Russian - is not the pursuit of money. Be Russian - a special state of mind.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:26 pm

tunnelcat wrote:Here's another good reason. Movie theater owners are the one's who caved. They started refusing to show the movie out of fears of some sort of terrorist events, like the one in Colorado, so Sony no longer had any venues to show it. That doesn't rule out some other form of release however.

That's basically what happened, and what Sony's exec said in response to Obama. All of the major chains declined to show it, and so Sony just bagged the whole release. I can't help but think that they were happy for the excuse though.

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:02 pm

IMO it was a crap movie anyway. Kind of funny that the hackers released it on the net, rather than trashing it. I guess it was more important to hurt the ones profiting by it than to remove the material (easier?)...

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:36 pm

Uh oh. Things are escalating. I sure hope our government knows what it's getting into by starting a cyber war with North Korea. They don't need the internet, we do however.

http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-exper ... 18060.html

IF North Korea was even responsible.

http://news.yahoo.com/did-north-korea-r ... itics.html

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:24 pm

sigma wrote:Americans do not have the opportunity to watch Russian films, because they can not find a translation into English or the Americans basically do not want to watch movies from Russia to expand your horizons and get a better idea of Russia, because it is taboo for Americans and unpatriotic?

The last Russian film I saw was one I saw with my son: Space Dogs (computer-animated film loosely about the dogs sent into space by the Soviet space program). It wasn't bad.

I also just watched a German romantic comedy with my wife last night.

[ It's a mistake to assume Americans don't enjoy international film. ]

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:44 am

Yes, cartoons most versatile movies. In Russia, a lot of good films and TV series, but perhaps I will not advise anything. You will be able to understand about their sense only if you have at least a month spent in Russia ...or you need at least a little know Russian tradition and history. Otherwise, you just do not understand their meaning......Although, perhaps, these you can understand
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Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:25 pm

The movie is not dead. With all this hype, it will probably get more views than it would have normally for a Rogen Franco romp. The North Koreans should have kept their mouths shut and let this formulaic movie die it's usual natural death. Now, it's famous.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/23/media/s ... index.html

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:30 am

There's a movie theater chain here in MI that is going to show The Interview for free in support of the 2nd amendment. Sorry TC, not all corporate leaders are scum.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:03 pm

woodchip wrote:in support of the 2nd amendment

Freudian slip?

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:17 pm

Oopsy...meant first. Heh.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:21 pm

Seriously though, I didn't have any interest in this movie before the whole mess started, but now I want to see it just for the sake of doing so. It's probably going to wind up making a ton of money however Sony decides to finally release it.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:27 pm

Perhaps I will remove links to smart movie, not to defile them in this thread.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:21 pm

woodchip wrote:There's a movie theater chain here in MI that is going to show The Interview for free in support of the 2nd amendment. Sorry TC, not all corporate leaders are scum.

Where did I say Sony was scum? All I said was with all this hacker BS, they'll make far more money than if they'd released it normally. Seth Rogen movies usually don't enter the blockbuster arena. The hackers allowed it to achieve that feat, which is kind of counter to what they were trying to achieve with blackmail in the first place.

. And good for Sony that they're showing it for free.

sigma, I know that the Russians didn't like the movie "Enemy at the Gates", which was about the WWII sniper, Vasily Zaitsev, but I liked it and rooted for old Vasily to shoot as many Nazis as possible and get the win for Russia.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:35 pm

Haaaa...Sony just made the movie available to buy/rent online starting today. Good on them!

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:35 am

Of the last movies I really liked Oblivion.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:23 pm

Haven't seen that one yet. I'm not really a fan of Tom Cruise, but I might just watch it when it comes on cable.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:24 pm

I just can not believe that you can not watch any movies for free at any time on the internet. In my opinion, you are a little disingenuous

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:51 pm

Ummm sigma, it's a little hard with a 1.5 mbps connection speed and I don't like to watch movies in low definition, or with high definition constantly buffering and pausing either.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:27 pm

Maybe it's time to change the computer? You can be assured that you will watch high quality movies online without any pauses.
And by the way, if I use the system unit in the main house, my girl looks humorous shows YouTube on iPhone, and I still have not seen that she had problems buffering. I should clarify that this is in Moscow. When I live in the countryside cottage, there is not only unstable internet, but can even be turned off electricity for 6-8 hours. Therefore, I have a large collection of favorite movies that I can look at the media center in the car at any time.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:35 pm

It's not the computer sigma. I only have a choice between 2 internet providers, Comcast, the cable company and Century Link, the phone company. Comcast is expensive for what they offer and the speed they offer. Plus, when all my neighbors are online and most of my neighbors are, the speed really drops, so it's not an option. Century Link now offers up to 10mbps, which I might upgrade to, eventually, but I'd rather bump up to at least 100 mbps if I'm going through the hassle, if it was even available. Both options are pretty lousy for one of the countries that invented the internet.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:11 am

Can not you use a 3G or 4G USB-modem other cellular companies? I often go fishing in god knows what the woods, but there's usually works fine cellular internet and navigation. You just need to choose the right operator.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:10 am

sigma, TC is looking to hook her PC up to the internet...not use it as a cell phone.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:08 am

I mean it was exactly the mobile Internet connection. For example, I use in high-speed cable internet one provider, but outside the city, I use USB-modem mobile Internet for Laptop another operator. And in the mobile phone another operator.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:17 am

too many operators

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:47 am

Different operators because different rates and coverage area of communication. For example, in Moscow and the Moscow Region I use unlimited mobile communications and the Internet in a mobile phone, which costs 150 rubles ($ 3, payment once a month) . Although, when I'm leaving on a business trip or on a vacation far away from Moscow, I use another operator, since the coverage and quality of communication is much better, though a bit more expensive than the cost. Another reason that the city is more profitable to use the navigation of an operator, and 1000 km from Moscow is advantageous to another operator.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:11 pm

sigma wrote:I mean it was exactly the mobile Internet connection. For example, I use in high-speed cable internet one provider, but outside the city, I use USB-modem mobile Internet for Laptop another operator. And in the mobile phone another operator.

I'm a luddite sigma. I don't have a cell phone. I have no need for one, so why should I pay the extra money just to get a 4G connection for the internet? If someone ever installs fiber up to my house, I'll be very happy. Come ON Google! Corvallis needs you! Screw Portland!