Top of the heap

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:58 pm

Seems Trump is now riding high:

"Mr Trump was touting his first place in an average of 105 polls. Of the 14 candidates who have declared, Trump topped the field with 13.6 per cent support to 13.3 per cent for Jeb Bush"

Americans want someone who will protect our borders and isn't afraid to call a spade a spade (some of you will take this as a racist remark but only because you are racist to begin with). We are tired of the same pablum spoon fed us by both sides of the aisle and are looking for someone to actually voice the frustration we all feel. Trump appears not to be afraid of the criticism. Still a long way to the election but we may be seeing a indication of how the electorate is viewing their candidates.

If Trump continues to climb, watch other candidates start to echo him. Really looking forward to the Rep. debates. The Dems will also be worried about Trump as they have no one to match his money nor his ability to paint America as the shining light on the hill like Reagan did. If Trump wins the primaries, his Dem. opposite will get chewed up alive.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:30 pm

In 2012 every single GOP hopeful led in the poles for about a week.

Trump has no chance.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:31 pm

do you realize what this says about the GOP likely primary voter?

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:33 pm

Nice guy Trump. Hoover would be proud. At least Hoover had the tact to do it under the sly. Trump's too stupid to see that dissing a very big chunk of the American populace by coming off as a xenophobe won't win him the presidential election.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010 ... ntial-trio

Florida Times-Union wrote:Hoover, who was president from 1929 to 1933, never issued any official document ordering the deportation of all illegal immigrants, according to Matthew T. Schaefer, archivist at the Hoover Presidential Library in West Branch, Iowa. Marian Smith at the USCIS Office of the Historian couldn't find any evidence of that either, according to FactCheck.org.

But during this time, there was a "repatriation" campaign in which illegals were returned to their country of origin, mostly Mexico, PolitiFact.com and FactCheck.org report.

Kevin Johnson, an immigration specialist who is dean of the University of California-Davis School of Law, put the number returned to Mexico at 1 million.

"Persons who looked Mexican in public places, such as parks and plazas, were arrested and taken in buses, trains and cars to the U.S.-Mexico border," Johnson told PolitiFact.com.

Official statistics, published by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (now the USCIS), show that 121,067 persons were deported or induced to leave during Hoover's four-year term, according to FactCheck.org's research.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:33 pm

And do realize what having Hillary as the odds on fav in the DNC says about them?

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:36 pm

Hillary's only their fav because she's been the one sticking her face all over in the press for months. Time to knock her off the pedestal.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:38 pm

CUDA wrote:And do realize what having Hillary as the odds on fav in the DNC says about them?

that, comparatively, they are rocket-scientists. A race between Trump and Hillary would be a non-starter. Possibly the only candidate in EITHER party with higher negatives("I cannot see voting for him/her") than Hillary(around 34%), might be the Donald(around 65%). Huckabee, Cruz and, oddly, Jeb Bush get close to Hillary, but Trump is in a postiton where he is fighting to draw 35% in an election with two candidates. Do the math.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:42 pm

I don't think Hill will get the DNC nod. If she does, she'll get eviscerated by the GOP candidate for her actions and lack of accomplishment while she was SOS.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:43 pm

Trumps a novelty. If you think he's being taken as a serious candidate then you need your head checked.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:45 pm

Watching Trump commit absolute financial suicide over the past week has been the greatest pleasure out of this entire political cycle.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:47 pm

CUDA wrote:I don't think Hill will get the DNC nod.

I bloody well hope she doesn't get the nod. The Dems would be idiots to do it because she's so polarizing. Plus, there's that dynasty thing.....

As for Trump, he's up there in the polls with Jeb. He's got far better numbers than the rest of the clown car, much to the mainstream Republican's chagrin.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:52 pm

Cmon people pull your head out of your ass. Watching trump is like watching a plane crash, you can't take your eyes off it.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:52 pm

CUDA wrote:I don't think Hill will get the DNC nod. If she does, she'll get eviscerated by the GOP candidate for her actions and lack of accomplishment while she was SOS.

if it gets to that point, do we have a wager?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:55 pm

CUDA wrote:Cmon people pull your head out of your ass. Watching trump is like watching a plane crash, you can't take your eyes off it.

which is why 21% of likely GOP primary voters in NH say they support him? You see, CUDA, the longer-term problem for the GOP field is they have to kowtow to the 1/5 of their primary electorate that thinks bashing latinos is cool. Which, in turn, will play oh-so-well for the party from top of ticket down with the fastest growing demographic in the national populace.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:58 pm

callmeslick wrote:do you realize what this says about the GOP likely primary voter?

to me it says the likely voters don't care about how money is managed.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:59 pm

Top Gun wrote:Watching Trump commit absolute financial suicide over the past week has been the greatest pleasure out of this entire political cycle.

He can afford the losses. All the attention offsets any financial loss. If you think the average joe blow isn't noticing and liking what he says, I suggest you stop watching MSNBC and stop reading the Huffington Post.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:00 pm

You know, if Trump wasn't such an idiot and xenophobe with a snowball's chance in Hell of winning, I'd be fun to watch him get the top Republican nod and go toe to toe and hair to hair with any Dem worth their salt. It would make the primary entertaining for once.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:00 pm

Ferno wrote:
callmeslick wrote:do you realize what this says about the GOP likely primary voter?
to me it says the likely voters don't care about how money is managed.

Oh they do and Trump manages money very well.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:00 pm

And yet Hillarys support among democrats is 66% your point?

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:01 pm

tunnelcat wrote:You know, if Trump wasn't such an idiot and xenophobe with a snowball's chance in Hell of winning, I'd be fun to watch him get the top Republican nod and go toe to toe and hair to hair with any Dem worth their salt. It would make the primary entertaining for once.

Idiots don't have a net worth of 8 billion.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:01 pm

oh, I think the average GOP PRIMARY VOTER very much likes the message, Woody. Therein lies your problem, come November 2015, because the larger electorate is pretty much either amused or disgusted. As one latino actress noted the other day, 'this is the most effective voter registration tool the latino community has EVER seen'.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:02 pm

woodchip wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:You know, if Trump wasn't such an idiot and xenophobe with a snowball's chance in Hell of winning, I'd be fun to watch him get the top Republican nod and go toe to toe and hair to hair with any Dem worth their salt. It would make the primary entertaining for once.
Idiots don't have a net worth of 8 billion.

neither does Donald Trump. Trust me. If he has 10% of that, in terms of true wealth after debts, I'd be shocked.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:04 pm

woodchip wrote:Idiots don't have a net worth of 8 billion.

Even a thief and a con artist can swindle billions out of a bunch of suckers. I doesn't take brains for that.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:21 pm

callmeslick wrote:oh, I think the average GOP PRIMARY VOTER very much likes the message, Woody. Therein lies your problem, come November 2015, because the larger electorate is pretty much either amused or disgusted. As one latino actress noted the other day, 'this is the most effective voter registration tool the latino community has EVER seen'.

you are assuming all latinos are democrats and don't have the smarts to understand what
Trump is saying,

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:22 pm

callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:You know, if Trump wasn't such an idiot and xenophobe with a snowball's chance in Hell of winning, I'd be fun to watch him get the top Republican nod and go toe to toe and hair to hair with any Dem worth their salt. It would make the primary entertaining for once.
Idiots don't have a net worth of 8 billion.
neither does Donald Trump. Trust me. If he has 10% of that, in terms of true wealth after debts, I'd be shocked.

I don't trust that you know what Trumps net worth is.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:23 pm

tunnelcat wrote:
woodchip wrote:Idiots don't have a net worth of 8 billion.
Even a thief and a con artist can swindle billions out of a bunch of suckers. I doesn't take brains for that.

Yeah but they go to jail and Trump will be elected president

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:10 pm

What a businessman. More of a flim flam man. Plus, he had help getting rich because his parents were rich. He's not even a self-made businessman.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/donald ... ims-to-be/

http://www.businessinsider.com/whats-th ... ump-2013-8

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:12 am

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Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:57 am

Trump's a side-show, and the fact that he's trying for President a 2nd time makes me lose even more respect for his intelligence.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:48 am

Don't remember him running before this.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:27 am

Your memory is either slipping, or you never considered him a serious contender before.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/06/ ... -campaign/

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:57 am

woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:oh, I think the average GOP PRIMARY VOTER very much likes the message, Woody. Therein lies your problem, come November 2015, because the larger electorate is pretty much either amused or disgusted. As one latino actress noted the other day, 'this is the most effective voter registration tool the latino community has EVER seen'.

you are assuming all latinos are democrats and don't have the smarts to understand what
Trump is saying,

oh, to the contrary.....I think they understand perfectly that what he is selling is pure xenophobia. This from a guy who has no problems with Mexicans making the shirts he sells under his brand.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:58 am

woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:You know, if Trump wasn't such an idiot and xenophobe with a snowball's chance in Hell of winning, I'd be fun to watch him get the top Republican nod and go toe to toe and hair to hair with any Dem worth their salt. It would make the primary entertaining for once.
Idiots don't have a net worth of 8 billion.
neither does Donald Trump. Trust me. If he has 10% of that, in terms of true wealth after debts, I'd be shocked.
I don't trust that you know what Trumps net worth is.

he's pretty much a regular down here in Delaware in our bankruptcy court. Three trips to date.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:05 am

here, Woody.....explain that deep meaning that folks will get from this sort of garbage, please?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/donald ... ar-AAcC7kY

sweartogawd, Trump is out to destroy the GOP once and for all.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:13 pm

from an analysis of Trumps OWN documents:".... lists $302 million in liquid assets". The rest of that guesswork piece of crap has his real estate holdings valued at 3.8 billion, yet, that is only HIS estimate, not market value. Also, he claims his personal 'brand' is worth 3.2 Billion. That number is both inflated and clearly dropping. He conveniently overlooks around $500,000,000 in current outstanding debt, as well. In other words, 8 billion my ass.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:28 pm

tunnelcat wrote:Your memory is either slipping, or you never considered him a serious contender before.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/06/ ... -campaign/

Perhaps your reading cognition has slipped but your link is only showing Trump as considering to run...not officially throwing his hat in the ring as he has done now.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:29 pm

callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:oh, I think the average GOP PRIMARY VOTER very much likes the message, Woody. Therein lies your problem, come November 2015, because the larger electorate is pretty much either amused or disgusted. As one latino actress noted the other day, 'this is the most effective voter registration tool the latino community has EVER seen'.

you are assuming all latinos are democrats and don't have the smarts to understand what
Trump is saying,
oh, to the contrary.....I think they understand perfectly that what he is selling is pure xenophobia. This from a guy who has no problems with Mexicans making the shirts he sells under his brand.

Are you sure the workers are not Chinese?

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:30 pm

callmeslick wrote:here, Woody.....explain that deep meaning that folks will get from this sort of garbage, please?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/donald ... ar-AAcC7kY

sweartogawd, Trump is out to destroy the GOP once and for all.

Since it is MSN I wouldn't believe a word of it.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:31 pm

callmeslick wrote:from an analysis of Trumps OWN documents:".... lists $302 million in liquid assets". The rest of that guesswork piece of crap has his real estate holdings valued at 3.8 billion, yet, that is only HIS estimate, not market value. Also, he claims his personal 'brand' is worth 3.2 Billion. That number is both inflated and clearly dropping. He conveniently overlooks around $500,000,000 in current outstanding debt, as well. In other words, 8 billion my ass.

Link or you have the vapors.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:56 pm

woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:here, Woody.....explain that deep meaning that folks will get from this sort of garbage, please?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/donald ... ar-AAcC7kY

sweartogawd, Trump is out to destroy the GOP once and for all.
Since it is MSN I wouldn't believe a word of it.

nice display of closemindedness. It isn't like an opinion piece.