Enterprise Returning to Trek Roots?

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:53 pm

I just found this article from a thread at Hard Light. It looks like Manny Coto, an executive producer of Star Trek: Enterprise, wants to take the show in a new direction more in line with its setting as a prequel to TOS. This could be just what this series needs to win back some of the fans who were turned off by its earlier seasons. I, for one, can't wait for season 4 to start

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CDN_Merlin · Post by **CDN_Merlin** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:58 pm

The last season was much better than the others as there was less emphasis on sex and more on trekking. I hope they stick to this formula.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:36 pm

The less of the B&B influence the better. Glad to see someone who actually cares working on the series. I cant wait to see the episode where William Shatner will make an appearance!

And nice to finally see some action with the Romulans. This season may actually be entertaining for once, something it has been laking almost since conception.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:12 pm

Awesome. And for the record Rick Berman rocks and Brannon Bragga sucks. =)

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:13 pm

Hey, Paramount actually does listen for once...

Mr. Perfect · Post by **Mr. Perfect** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:20 am

And just how do you work a old Shatner in when his character isnt even born yet?

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:07 am

Who said he was going to show up as Captain Kirk?

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:22 am

Mr. Perfect wrote:And just how do you work a old Shatner in when his character isnt even born yet?

Time travel. Duh.

And I am very much looking forward to seeing more action with the romulans. I will be watching very closely tho, as there are some very importantthings that they need to stick to in order to keep continuity with TOS.

Also, in some of the Star Trek Books, its written that the war with the Romulans is the catalyst that ultimately creates the federation. The Romulan War wasnt supposed to have ended until one or two years before the founding the The Federation, so I doubt you'll see too much all out battle with the romulans. Just a few skirmishes here and there. It will probably be a lot like the build up to the Dominon war in Deep Space 9. That build up started in season 3, and the war didnt really begin until season 6.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:24 am

Kirk's father. =)

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:26 am

Vader wrote:It will probably be a lot like the build up to the Dominon war in Deep Space 9. That build up started in season 3, and the war didnt really begin until season 6.

Actually the Dominion was first mentioned in "Rules of Acquisition" which was an episode early in Season 2. The war officially started in "Call to Arms," the season finale of Season 5.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:47 am

The Dominion was mentioned in that episode, sure, but the build up to the war didnt begin until the end of episode 226 "The Jem'Hadar" and 301-302 "The Search".

Cougar · Post by **Cougar** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:08 pm

[spoiler]I heard Brent Spiner was going to make an appearance in a three episode arc involving Arik Soong (Data's creators' grandfather), a villan who believes strongly in eugenics.[/spoiler]

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:39 pm

Vader wrote:The Dominion was mentioned in that episode, sure, but the build up to the war didnt begin until the end of episode 226 "The Jem'Hadar" and 301-302 "The Search".

Depends on your definition of build-up. The real dominion-related suspense started in "Jem'Hadar" but the mystery began building in "Rules of Acquisition" and was continued in "Sanctuary". I'd call that part of the build-up, but I guess we're just arguing semantics.

Anywho, that'd be awesome if the whole Romulan/Vulcan thing had a long story arc like the Dominion War did. I think I'll start watching Enterprise this season and see how to goes.

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:51 pm

[spoiler]Heard the same thing Coug, and I'm not even a trekkie. I think I heard it on the local classic rock channel (wtf).[/spoiler]

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:22 am

Vader wrote:
Mr. Perfect wrote:And just how do you work a old Shatner in when his character isnt even born yet?
Time travel. Duh.

Almost. There would be one problem with it; Kirk died before reaching old age.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:09 am

This wouldn't be the first time they've brought him back from the dead.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:31 pm

Jeff250 wrote:This wouldn't be the first time they've brought him back from the dead.

Yeah. He wrote his own novels bringing his character back.....

btw, you Enterprise folk may be interested in this

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:08 pm

Actually I read those too, but I was mostly referring to Generations.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:51 pm

I think the general consensus was that Shatner will play another character, not Kirk. Who knows, he could be Kirk's grandfather? Or how about the elusive chef?

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:18 pm

Kirk never died in Generations. Nor did he Time Travel.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:22 pm

****Hijack attempt****

Anyone heard if another movie is in the works? I think it would be a mistake. If would make more sense if they did a movie with characters from the various shows that "just" happen to be in the same place at the same time. ...yeah.. it sounds kinda lame, but so would another movie.

If they did do another movie, I'd like to see spock in it. He is still around lurkin around Romulus as I recall.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:17 pm

DCrazy wrote:Kirk never died in Generations. Nor did he Time Travel.

He died twice and time traveled once. =)

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:19 pm

The Nexus isn't time travel, it exists outside of reality. He wasn't resurrected either, Soran was stopped avoiding his death.

fliptw · Post by **fliptw** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:41 pm

if you simply ignore the novels,like you are supposed to, then he's dead.

Picard made a karn(sp?) for him.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:56 pm

DCrazy wrote:The Nexus isn't time travel, it exists outside of reality. He wasn't resurrected either, Soran was stopped avoiding his death.

Depends on your definition of "time travel." Mine includes "traveling from one point in time to another" which is what happened here.

Kirk died stopping Soran... and ok the first time he died, I guess you could say he didn't really die.

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:20 pm

Yeah, I made the mistake of saying never. I know that he did indeed die.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:57 pm

Duper wrote:****Hijack attempt****

Anyone heard if another movie is in the works? I think it would be a mistake. If would make more sense if they did a movie with characters from the various shows that "just" happen to be in the same place at the same time. ...yeah.. it sounds kinda lame, but so would another movie.

If they did do another movie, I'd like to see spock in it. He is still around lurkin around Romulus as I recall.

I heard its going to be a prequill. But Prequill what? Enterprise? And cut off TNG so soon? They got at least 2 more moves to go before they match up with TOS generation, and they still are lagging in 2 more good movies!

I swear, this franchise would be better off with someone who could better handle it.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:19 pm

Yeah, really. They should bring in Ian Steven Behr (sp?), Robert Wolfe (the guy that wrote the first two seasons of Andromeda, and a shitload of DS9 episodes), JMS (writer and creator of Babylon5), and Greg Weisman to work on those two movies. At the very least JMS.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:39 pm

Top Wop wrote:I heard its going to be a prequill. But Prequill what? Enterprise? And cut off TNG so soon? They got at least 2 more moves to go before they match up with TOS generation, and they still are lagging in 2 more good movies!

I swear, this franchise would be better off with someone who could better handle it.

I read somewhere that the prequel will somehow involve Kirk as an Ensign.

So what would that mean for what kind of starship wed be on? A newly minted Constitution Class? Or maybe an Old-as-dirt Daedalus class that can only hit Warp 7?

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:19 pm

MD-2389 wrote:They should bring in Ian Steven Behr (sp?)

Ira Steven Behr. He rocks!

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:44 am

If its a young Kirk then we gonna have an old Enterprise thats re-invented and thus screwing up the timeline the way the Akira-in-disguise did in Enterprise. Yaaaay!

How about some fresh ideas? Or working with what you already got (Generations)?

Man, I hope Paramount turns that idea down. Or do SOMETHING.