Has anyone gotten D1x 1.30 or even 1.40 to work in XP?

kurupt · Post by **kurupt** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:41 pm

I got D1x 1.43 working in windows minus a few joystick features, but it would not work with kali on XP. i got 1.30 to work on kali once but not with a playable ping. it was pinging everyone at a million ms or more.

that was a long time ago and i can't remember how i did it. has anyone had any success?

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:44 pm

I'll have to check and see if I can still get 1.43 working in XP, had it before, but that was two formats ago and pre SP2.

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:25 pm

Kurupt, I got d1x 1.43 open gl to work with kali in XP. I doubt 1.30 will work because I think that version uses DOS or some kind of dos emulation. I used kali 2.614 the newest one everything went okay.

kurupt · Post by **kurupt** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:26 pm

when i play it in windows it works fine, but when i try to launch it with kali it just hangs at the little dos box that loads up before the game launches. you know what i'm sayin?

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:40 pm

Ok, I got it to work in XP (single player), heres what I did.

First its in compatibility mode for windows 98
Second here is my d1x.ini:
-pps 6
-shortpackets
-noredundancy
-playermessages
-maxfps 51
-fps
-cockpit 2
-msgcolorlevel 3
-1024x768
-automap1024x768
-gl_mipmap
-notitles
Third I configured my joystick (sidewinder precision pro) in the game.
Then when I went to play, naturally the hat doesnt work at all, and the stick itself barely functions either. But, that is where the -1024x768 windowed mode comes in, once you are in the game I switch to fullscreen mode and the joystick magically starts working perfectly. (Yeah I know, wtf? o_O)

Oh yeah, the reason I have the FPS capped at 51, my refresh rate is 100 Hz, so 51 vsynced means that D1 is always putting out exactly 50 FPS.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:49 pm

hrm .. mystick is still jerking around abit. Kinda like joypolled isn't working. I gather it isn't, but it is there.

I use a Cyborg 3D Gold usb.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:43 pm

My stick is very jerkey in this. It moves so long as at least one axis is being moved....if I hold all the way in one direction and just hold it there, it wont move except for little jumps. Its a cyborg evo, but I tried it with my nyko airflo just to see what would happen and it did the same thing.

Is anyone ever gonna update d1x?

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:55 pm

Also, when I try to set the axis, i can get it to only read "Y2". This happens to be the throttle control "wheel".

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:52 am

Make sure the wheel is centered. Also, it may be a very sensitive wheel.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:39 am

Ah... I get precisely the same issue Vader... with a Precision 2 this time. Don't know quite what's wrong, since I also have D2x which is largely using the same code and it works perfectly there.

Might try Krom's approach eventually.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:09 am

Ive tried pretty much every ini paramater there is with absolutely no luck getting the stick to un-suckify.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:46 am

I have the same issue as Vader and Sirius. I tried to figure it out a couple years ago but couldn't. I use a Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2.

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:36 am

For everyone having problems running Descent 1 under windows xp try downloading this http://bely19.home.comcast.net/files/Descent.rar . This is the d1x version I use with windows xp professional. To make all your joystick features work make sure it is installed under control panel.

JohnnnY · Post by **JohnnnY** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:37 pm

Your right Krom, the 1024x768 makes the twist/hat work fine.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:31 pm

war, what am I supposed to have installed under control panel? I'm running that 1.42 exe and my joystick is not working AT ALL in it.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:28 pm

Kurupt, to answer your original question, I have not got 1.30 or any of the 1.40's to work. It either flat doesn't work or the sound crashes and I get a horrible squelching noice much like a very evil modem dial-tone when any sound file is accessed.

Neitzl · Post by **Neitzl** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:11 pm

Warmaster wrote:For everyone having problems running Descent 1 under windows xp try downloading this http://bely19.home.comcast.net/files/Descent.rar . This is the d1x version I use with windows xp professional. To make all your joystick features work make sure it is installed under control panel.

Groovy!
But one thing...when I go remap the keyboard keys, all the jstick functions are lost. I can remap most everything, tho the hat gets inverted, but my bank/twist does not work, it gets into the perpetual twist action. HE'P ME!

Neitzl

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:39 am

Holy crap....youre alive.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:24 am

Neitzl wrote:tho the hat gets inverted, but my bank/twist does not work, it gets into the perpetual twist action.

What stik do you have? Ot sounds like the game is grabbing the signal from the throttle control. Are you using Warmaster's version?

Neitzl · Post by **Neitzl** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:41 am

Duper wrote:
Neitzl wrote:tho the hat gets inverted, but my bank/twist does not work, it gets into the perpetual twist action.
What stik do you have? Ot sounds like the game is grabbing the signal from the throttle control. Are you using Warmaster's version?

Duper, yes I am using Warmaster's version. I forgot what all the ini files and stuff did/do, so I need me some he'p! What's my next move?
Gracias!
Neitzl

ps Yes I am still alive...crazy, no? There are even a few shots (sorta) of me in the ChicagoLAN picture thread over in multiplayer.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:51 pm

Neitzl,

Grab THIS. It's the 1.43 patch. Inside there are 2 different exe's and contrary to what the REAME file says, the d1x143_oglmw.exe works great for me and is very stable. Use the same ini file you are using now. and Do these things.

Under compatiblity mode on the shortcut

1) enable 95 or 98/Me mode.

*Edit* (ah.. you are quite right Krom. This was stuff left over from my initial trouble shooting when I was having all sorts of problems. Thanks)

Under Options Tab

1)run in Window, not full screen for now.
2)disable "QuickEdit mode"

Again, what stick are you using?

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:06 pm

There is no need to disable visual styles or advanced text services duper. Just set it to 98/ME mode and you are set.

Sapphire Wolf · Post by **Sapphire Wolf** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:25 pm

My d1x works on my xp.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:30 pm

Dark Falcon wrote:My d1x works on my xp.

cool! Neitzl is have stick trouble tho.

Hey Krom, didn't you run across a fix by going full screen then reducing it or something?

I wonder if we could get a sticky for D1x/D2x help. There have been some cool stuff but finding it again is getting tough with the growth of this forum.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:34 pm

All I do is start D1x in windowed mode, then when I actually get to playing I switch to fullscreeen, and it works.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:43 pm

Krom wrote:Then when I went to play, naturally the hat doesnt work at all, and the stick itself barely functions either. But, that is where the -1024x768 windowed mode comes in, once you are in the game I switch to fullscreen mode and the joystick magically starts working perfectly. (Yeah I know, wtf? o_O)

...oh... duh...

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:18 pm

Hm... I just started trying this stuff and it all works fine up until when I try to switch to fullscreen; then there is no longer anything displayed. When I switch out of fullscreen (blind, but I can tell it's working), well, still nothing is displayed. It's like fullscreen causes the screen to go blank or something.

Which is weird, because it works fine on D2x and D1x 1.43 without OpenGL.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:03 pm

When you switch to fullscreen, hit escape twice...

The screen doesnt refresh till after you get out of all the menus. Thats why you want to do it once you are ingame.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:40 pm

If you're running 1024x768, hit the minus key once and you get widescreen. your FOV increases by just a little bit.

oh... and what Krom said.....

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:22 am

Krom wrote:Then when I went to play, naturally the hat doesnt work at all, and the stick itself barely functions either. But, that is where the -1024x768 windowed mode comes in, once you are in the game I switch to fullscreen mode and the joystick magically starts working perfectly. (Yeah I know, wtf? o_O)

Krom you're a genius! It worked! But I also needed to add the command line switch -joypolled or my framerate would go to crap every time I tried to turn with my joystick.

Also I didn't have to set it to windows 98 compatibility mode. It just ran on its own.

Edit: This is the first time I've had D1 working properly in years. Thankyou! Thankyou! Thankyou!

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:34 am

Ah... yes, that does it. I found that as Suncho said, 98 compatibility isn't required for me at least - in fact it seems to stop it working.

And I also got the hideously slow fps when turning. However, -joypolled didn't have any effect.

I have no idea why moving the joystick handle would take so much CPU power, but D1x seems to choke whenever the input changes.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:57 am

Krom, suncho, what stick do you guys use? And does it use gameport or USB?

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:25 pm

USB - SideWinder Precision Pro

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:33 pm

USB - Sidewinder Force Feedback 2

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:11 pm

well I cant get kroms trick to work...its still jerkey even after I switch to full screen. And 1.42's joystick support doesnt even work apparently...I'll try it after a fresh reboot tho.

Neitzl · Post by **Neitzl** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:24 pm

Never mind...edited previous post...
I GOT IT WORKING! W()()!!
Ok, now...where the games at!

THanks guys for the help. What a country!
I <3 it!

Neitzl

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:45 pm

I got a reply from Saitek. I posted it in the Tech Forum. Go check it out.

Neitzl wrote:Ok, now...where the games at!

Kali dude! There has been an unexplained increase in numbers there. Cya there!

Way to go Neitzl!

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:17 pm

Well I got it going in a very ghetto mannar (configuration software, x and y axis emulate the mouse, and the twist and allll the buttons are mapped to keys) So um...yeah...I'll play I guess. I will suck HARDCORE, but I will play.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:20 am

lol...

Yeah, it's weird - I got Descent 1.5 working just fine - sound, joystick, even the twist - bascially everything - but D1x 1.43, no...

D1x 1.40 and earlier don't even run, of course, because their video code is completely incompatible with WinXP... but perhaps if I get DosBox they might...

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:41 am

Alas, I thought I had it working but I didn't change anything and now it's doing the horrible framerate on turning again. =/