LightWolf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:49 pm
Food for thought: A handful of Republicans said what Trump did was wrong but not impeachable. Does this affect anything in your view?
Impeachment is a purely political act, because as we've seen, a president really cannot have his power checked unless his own party is willing to put aside their partisan love fest and remember that they have a job to do as one of our branches of government, to keep a president from abusing the power of his office and protecting and upholding the Constitution. What Clinton did for his impeachment was no more
illegal than what Trump did when he withheld that aide from Ukraine if you want to use the
current Republican standard here. Gingrich forged ahead because he promised his constituents that he would put a check on an immoral President, Bill Clinton. Never mind that Gingrich was doing a little immorality himself at the same time. ★■◆●ing hypocrite. Pelosi ultimately forged ahead because Trump stretched his powers of the office beyond the limit of any previous tolerances and the Dems were pushing for action. Between Mueller and Ukraine, the breaking point was reached. Sure, lying under oath is a crime. So was withholding that aide from Ukraine for the sole purpose of using that as a wedge to gain information against a political opponent. The GAO even came out and said what Trump did was illegal and broke the law. But Clinton was never removed from office and Trump won't be either, all because of partisan stupidity and a soulless greed for power. And I'd like to see how many Americans think it's A OK for a hostile foreign nation to interfere in U.S. elections, especially if what they did got their party's opponent elected. If Hillary had won instead of Trump and the same evidence concerning Russia came out against her that's already come out against Trump, Republicans would be impeaching her right and left as many times as it took.
https://publicintegrity.org/national-se ... n-ukraine/
But here's the thing. I was ticked off at the Dems during the Clinton impeachment when they lined up in lock step behind their man and stood behind him like a bunch of mindless sycophants. I mean, the man is and was a slimebag. His wife is an enabler and a crook. He deserved impeachment. He lied in a deposition, he lied to Congress, he blocked all efforts at finding the truth and he lied to the American people live on TV. That told me he wasn't trustworthy and didn't deserve to remain as president, which by association indicted every Dem that stood beside him in the Rose Garden in defiance. That BS sealed Al Gore's fate in the next election, because a lot of Dems were also ticked off and voted Republican.
Now fast forward to Trump. I mean, this man couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. He's done nothing but lie about his kid's involvement in government, using that tie to grease theirs and Trump's businesses. Family is family, no matter what you claim. He's lied about so many affairs with women, under oath, that he makes Clinton look like a piker. He's openly shown that he loves the company of murderous dictators, while spurning our own allies, or worse, abandoning them after years of support. Like the Kurds for example. I mean, Trump literally asks the leader of a foreign nation hostile to our own country, Putin of Russia, for advice. He then ignores long time seasoned advisors who have OUR country's interest at heart. He's got a potty foul mouth not worthy of a man who leads a nation, which makes us the laughing stock of the world. We're still in Iraq and Afghanistan despite his claims he'd be the one to get us out. Our healthcare expenses have gone through the roof and nothing has been done to solve that either. The economy is hot, but all those tax breaks only lined the pockets of the big corporations with stock buybacks and the wealthy who own those stocks. Meanwhile, whole sections of the country have a huge homeless crisis because these people can't afford a home in such a hot market, nor can they get or afford proper drug treatment or mental health care. In fact, a lot of homeless are vets the system has abandoned like so much trash. If I gripe about that too much, it's because it's a ★■◆●ing BIG problem here.
Trump even was investigated for colluding with Russia just to help him get elected. But since he blocked all efforts at finding the truth, that's all Mueller could even come
near to charging him with, obstruction of justice, which also flopped. Trump has even co-opted the Department of Justice, one of the branches of government the people need to help check the power of a president and he did it by finally picking a dishonest brown-noser with the same morals as his. He's even got Giuliani, who's technically not a government employee, out running around on the government dime or questionable funding chasing around for after a fake debunked conspiracy theory that was definitely started by a Russian propaganda machine just to switch the blame to Ukraine for the Russian hacking of the Dems before the 2016 election. I mean, the idiot doesn't even know what a server is or how information is stored. Trump's mindless base is lapping up that crap like candy because it's being spoon-fed to them by a propaganda machine they trust, Fox News. Fer cripes sake, I don't lap up everything the liberal outlets spew everyday. But geez, sometimes there's so much redundant information being brought forth from different sources, that a lot of it has to be fact.
Now the Ukraine mess is just another thing he's gotten away with by lying and blocking witnesses and any evidence by claiming a president has absolute power to do so. Well, I've got news for the Republicans. Last I heard, we are a democracy, not a dictatorship. In fact, the Republicans in the Senate don't even want to hear all the NEW evidence that's coming out, even from a Neocon. All they want is an easy acquittal for their Orange God so that he can MAYBE hand them Republican votes come election time. He's out shined Clinton as the master of deception, obfuscation and bald face lying to Congress and the American people. And there's far more evidence against Trump than Clinton ever had to deal with all because a LOT of honest people surrounding Trump had a conscience and the fortitude to come forth and and say: "Hey, there's something rotten going on in the White House". Trump has even trashed the careers of long time well liked diplomats because they wouldn't kiss his ass and do illegal acts to advance his personal agenda. There's STILL evidence oozing out to this day.
I found Trump to be a liar and cheat from day one. He's done nothing but reinforce that to the max during his time in office. He's unfit to be our president IMO. The fact that nearly the entire Republican Party has bowed down to this man with unquestioning loyalty makes me wonder whether all of THEM are even fit to BE in office, let alone get re-elected to that office. Trump definitely does NOT respect the office of the president, he does not respect more than half the people of this nation, nor do I personally want to grace him or his corroded party ever again with my vote to any office. This is the second time in my lifetime that a political party has so violated their oath of office and duty to the people that they deserve a good drubbing in the next election and I sincerely hope they get it. And that's my 2 cents, for what it's worth.