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Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:35 pm**

Geist,

check the 'show hud' option in the render options menu.

For some reason all but the first part of the D1 briefing seems to be broken. The entire file (ending.txb) only has 720 bytes. The last few bytes are bogus. I have no clue what's wrong here. You can check the file by loading descent.hog into DLE-XP, checking 'show all files' and move the selection bar to 'ending.txb' (files are displayed alphabetically sorted by DLE-XP).

Edit:

Probably endreg.txb is the proper file, but I still get some bogus briefing screens with it.

Can you make screen shots of each D1 end game briefing screen and post them here (max. 800x600)?

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:51 pm**

I just updated from 1.5.109 to 1.5.134. When I start any D1 savegame, the textures are all wrong. This is a screenshot of a D1 savegame in level 10 with 1.5.109:

This is the same savegame with 1.5.134:

Note that if I start a new D1 game with 1.5.134, even at level 10, the textures look fine. And this is after just copying the contents of the D2X-XL zip folder into my Descent directory.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:55 pm**

I have looked through the D1 code and applied another fix to D1 end game briefing playback by D2X-XL. Currently uploading 1.5.134b. Give it a shot and tell me whether it's alright now.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:57 pm**

Silencer,

old D1 savegames don't work with the current D2X-XL anymore because I have completely changed D1 texture handling. Proceed to the next level, or start from a save game short before finishing the previous level.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:06 pm**

Diedel, you're going to hate me. I was wrong about the ship not banking while turning in D1. I just tested normal D1 and it banked. Sorry. =(

I really do remember noticing the difference in D2. Maybe it's like that episode of Slider's where the Golden Gate bridge is blue or that episode of TNG where the vanill cake turns into chocolate cake and it's really because Worf is jumping between different parallel universes... or something.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:17 pm**

If that is all ...

I hate you much more for your real bug reports.

j/k

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:47 pm**

Thanks a lot, Diedel, for making me start that level over!!

One more thing. Did you change how the sound is different? The sound effects and MIDI music sound way different somehow. I checked the d2x.ini to make sure that the d1sounds switch was set to 1, and it is.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:49 pm**

Does it sound different from before I introduced the use_d1sound switch, or after? If from before: D1 sound is sampled at 11 KHz which means pretty low quality.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:01 pm**

It sounds different from 1.5.109, when I had the sample22k and use_d1sound switches both on. I think it's something more than that. Taking a closer listen, with 1.5.134 (and the above switches enabled), the bots and doors make completely different sounds now. I'm not sure, but they sound like D2 effects.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:09 pm**

D2X-XL does not use all D1 sounds, because that failed to work. It only uses the boss and ambient lava sounds now, if use_d1sounds is enabled.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:34 pm**

Diedel-

The missions that fail to load also fail to load if I put them in a HOG file.

Also, some missions that are already in HOG files have the same problem:

Humility Ver1.2 (HUMIL2.HOG)

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:07 pm**

here is another pic of that cube lighting problem.....only seems to appear at the edge of a cube...

---> menus also seem a little bit laggy when using a custom backgroung

BTW...what is the option \"small weapon icon\" used for in the Gameplay Options? :p

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:03 am**

It means that the HUD weapon icons are printed smaller ... who'd have thought that ...

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:03 am**

Diedel wrote:Can you make screen shots of each D1 end game briefing screen and post them here (max. 800x600)?

Now I only have two or so screens, one of them immediately disappears when the text is written and continues writing on the next page. Then I see a screen with the planet in the background, I think it's the one with the earth from the first few levels, but it disappears after 0.x seconds to bring you to the score screen with the boni, it's even hard to see.

I'd need an older version to screen the briefing, if you give me a link I can try, but uh, I've seen like 20-30 screens until I escaped

Shouldn't you be able to make a hiscores entry after finishing the game?

The HUD toggles works, but every time I restart the game it switches back to off, and the skill now always switches back to rookie too.

And I'm having some kind of performance problems in the briefings and robot introductions, the animations are not smooth when the text is being written, but when the text is finished it's ok. I've had bad performance problems with D2 movies too, but that one got fixed recently.

Oh yeah, I've also got told that the secret level three in Lv24 is destroyed and the exit disabled... think it shouldn't be that way since it's the only chance to enter that level? I was stuck in Lv24 then (second time after Lv4 reactor room) because it would completely lock up when you use the normal exit, about when the camera would switch to 3rd person view... had to reset machine twice

But thankfully it works in the later versions.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:14 am**

Having an issue with multiplayer...
There doesn't seem to be any way to specify the server's port when joining a UDP netgame, only your own. So if the server isn't listening on the default port, you're doomed.

Also, does the tracker deal properly with NAT?

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:22 am**

Problems in version 1.5.35:

Everytime i shoot a Super Laser, it shows HUD message of not primary weapons available. Also, if i have the super laser, when i press the laser hotkey, it returns to laser level 4 and after that, i can't select super laser anymore. And also, if i use the cheat Honestbob it gives me quad laser 4, no super lasers. And if i use cheat Alifalafel, and i had quad lasers, i loose it whit this cheat.

And on D2X-XL levels with colored light, if i shoot a lamp, it doesn't darkens the room, remains full bright. It only happens on this version. Also, with colored lights, the level is completely full lighted, even when there is no lights! And blinking lights doesn't work also in these levels.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:51 pm**

Some little graphics bugs (not too important):

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:53 pm**

1.5.135:

#1: In D1, only the D2 primary weapon icons are displayed, and some of the secondary icons are from D2. There are only 5 of each, but it's the wrong five. See screenshot:

#2: If lightmaps are on, disabling colored lighting has no effect. I think the colored lighting in the mine looks bad, so I want to disable it.

#3: In D1, when colored light maps (colored lighting?) is on, there is an area of red light directly ahead in level 1:

and level 2:

I haven't tested other levels.

#4:
D2 movies are still playing instead of D1 Mission briefings.

#5:
I still can't load those certain D1 Missions. I can load them from normal D1.

#6:

Descent 2 demos appear on the \"View Demo\" menu even if I don't have the \"Play D2 Missions\" box checked. It tells me I don't have the mission installed.

#7:

Something I noticed: I tried to load Athena and it failed to load. I let the game sit at the main menu and then the automatic demo started playing. The objects and robots were from the original demo, but the level was Athena. The player was flying through the walls and stuff.

This happens with all my missions where the RDL is outside the HOG file.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:13 pm**

#1,2,3: Fixed.

#4,5,7: Cannot reproduce.

#6: Shrug.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:32 pm**

oh teh noes!!! a 404 on teh download linky!!

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:52 pm**

1.5.135

#8 Here are the copied and pasted MSN file contents of the ones that don't load. Before each one, it specifies whether the RDL is in a HOG or by itself.

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = Mad Decorator!
type = normal
num_levels = 1
mad.rdl

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = The Newest Threat
type = normal
num_levels = 1
newest.RDL

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = NYSA
type = normal
num_levels = 1
NYSA.rdl

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = Circle of Death
type = normal
num_levels = 1
cod.rdl

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = MINERVA
type = normal
num_levels = 1
MINERVA.RDL

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = ATHENA
type = normal
num_levels = 1
ATHENA.rdl

HOG:

Code: Select all

name = Humility ver1.2           ;any name you want
type = normal             ;can be \"normal\" or \"anarchy\". Omitted means normal 
briefing = blbrief                          
num_levels = 1		  ;number of normal levels
humility.rdl 		  ;level filename 1
ending = endreg

HOG:

Code: Select all

name = Sea of Tranquility ;any name you want
num_levels = 1  	  ;number of normal levels
tranquil.rdl  		  ;level filename 1

HOG:

Code: Select all

name = Serenity        ;any name you want
type = Normal          ;can be \"normal\" or \"anarchy\".  Omitted means normal
num_levels = 1         ;number of normal levels
serenity.rdl

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = Retribution Base 1.1
type = normal
num_levels = 1
retrib11.rdl

   \"Flaming Criminals!  The whole lot of them!  Why do we have to waste
valuable rocket fuel to save a few social rejects?\"
   \"We don't have a choice.  The word just came down from the High
Commander.  These outcasts must be retrieved alive.  Their personal
accounts of the atrocities on Retribution Base will serve as the final
sentence against Captain Scythe, now on trial for his crimes against
humanity on the base.\"
   \"Well, don't expect me to perform any heroics just to save a few
clumps of wasted flesh.  If I can't get in and back out with them in
the time it takes to reload a Megamissile, they'll just have to face
the robotic defense force reprogrammed by Scythe... I've heard they
don't leave much behind after an attack.\"
   \"Those are just rumors.  Nobody really believes the stories about
robots gone bad.  You just go in and do your job.  I'll be right here
in orbit, where I probably face more danger than you.\"

   *** Later ***

   \"...Yeah, I've arrived.  It looks deserted.  Everything's quiet.
I'm having a little difficulty getting through these doors.  They
seem to be jammed... no, wait, I've found my way through.  I'm now
proceeding into the main chamber... WHAT THE...\"

   *** End of Transmission ***

Author's Notes:

This level works great for either single or multiplayer action.  There
are only a couple of secret areas, but they may be worth your while to
find, especially in multiplayer mode.

This mission was created by Randy Maude using DEVIL 1.01.

RDL:

Code: Select all

name = Retribution Base 1.0
type = normal
num_levels = 1
retrib10.rdl

   \"Flaming Criminals!  The whole lot of them!  Why do we have to waste
valuable rocket fuel to save a few social rejects?\"
   \"We don't have a choice.  The word just came down from the High
Commander.  These outcasts must be retrieved alive.  Their personal
accounts of the atrocities on Retribution Base will serve as the final
sentence against Captain Scythe, now on trial for his crimes against
humanity on the base.\"
   \"Well, don't expect me to perform any heroics just to save a few
clumps of wasted flesh.  If I can't get in and back out with them in
the time it takes to reload a Megamissile, they'll just have to face
the robotic defense force reprogrammed by Scythe... I've heard they
don't leave much behind after an attack.\"
   \"Those are just rumors.  Nobody really believes the stories about
robots gone bad.  You just go in and do your job.  I'll be right here
in orbit, where I probably face more danger than you.\"

   *** Later ***

   \"...Yeah, I've arrived.  It looks deserted.  Everything's quiet.
I'm having a little difficulty getting through these doors.  They
seem to be jammed... no, wait, I've found my way through.  I'm now
proceeding into the main chamber... WHAT THE...\"

   *** End of Transmission ***

Author's Notes:

This level works great for either single or multiplayer action.  There
are only a couple of secret areas, but they may be worth your while to
find, especially in multiplayer mode.

This mission was created by Randy Maude using DEVIL 1.01.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:21 pm**

Kirby,

404 because I pulled 1.5.136 back due to a pending issue (not caused by D2X-XL though).

Suncho,

I simply took DLE-XP, extracted blakrose.rdl from blakrose.hog, renamed blakrose.hog so D2X-XL couldn't find it, and that worked. I will try Nysa.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:16 pm**

Black Rose works fine on mine too. It's not one of the ones that was broken.

Version 1.5.136

When I try to join a multiplayer game on the tracker, it says \"That Choice is Invalid\":

Click to join this game:

and I get this:

Three of us tested it and none of us could join each other's games.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:40 pm**

Fixed. Re-download 1.5.136.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:37 pm**

Wheee. We just played a nice long 3-way game. =)

Bugs in 1.3.136:

#1: My PPS setting keeps resetting to what's set in the d2x.ini in-between games and when I quit out of the multiplayer menu.

#2: If I have my radar on, and then start a game with \"show players on automap\" unchecked, if I go back to singleplayer, my radar is now turned off.

#3: If I start a game with mouselook enabled on the server, it automatically makes me use mouselook even if I don't have the mouselook box checked in my config.

#4: High Quality movies seem to use my desktop resolution. They play fine if I uncheck \"full screen\", but in full screen they're all choppy regardless of where my in-game resolution is set. My desktop resolution is 2048x1536.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:26 pm**

Was talking to a guy in chat who doesn't have a DBB account. Here's the log:

[23:15] <RatoN> 1) when using resolution 1280x1024, i can't alt+tab out and alt+tab back in
[23:15] <RatoN> 1024x768 worked fine though
[23:15] <Suncho> only that resolution?
[23:15] <Suncho> weird
[23:16] <RatoN> i dunno, there was another one above 1024x768 but i didn't try it
[23:16] <Suncho> what video card?
[23:16] <RatoN> radeon x700 pro
[23:16] <Suncho> hmm
[23:16] <Suncho> I have a geforce 6800
[23:16] <RatoN> max resolution my monitor and card can support
[23:16] <Suncho> I'll see if ith appens on mine just for the heck of it
[23:16] <RatoN> alright
[23:17] <RatoN> 2) I can't play the Vertigo missions, i tried installing it twice
[23:17] <RatoN> i get an error when going to 'start new single player game', but it works on just plain 'new game'
[23:17] <Suncho> alt+tab worked ok for me
[23:17] <Suncho> I'll try vertigo
[23:18] <RatoN> 3) and this is most likely a known problem, but when playing the descent 1 single player campaign, the game eventually locks up
[23:18] <RatoN> well, not locks up, crashes
[23:18] <RatoN> basically, it doesn't work well enough to play the d1 missions
[23:19] <RatoN> the specific vertigo error i get is 'error in mission file'
[23:20] <Suncho> yeah your right
[23:20] <Suncho> *you're
[23:20] <RatoN> so i guess you get the same thing?
[23:20] <Suncho> error in mission file on vertigo when selected from singleplayer
[23:20] <RatoN> alright, isn't just me
[23:20] <Suncho> but works ok from new game
[23:20] <Suncho> as for d1
[23:20] <Suncho> it crashes?
[23:20] <Suncho> do you get an error message?
[23:20] <RatoN> yeah, not right away
[23:21] <RatoN> took till i hit the exit on level 2 and it crashess
[23:21] <RatoN> with one of those windows xp crash messages
[23:21] <RatoN> and the second time i crashed, was just shooting a guy in level 3
[23:22] <RatoN> i've gotten to level 4 on descent 2: counter-strike with no crashes so...
[23:22] <Suncho> weird

(Version 1.5.136)

EDIT:

He also verified that the D1 Briefings don't play when you uncheck \"Play D2 Missions.\"

[23:29] <Suncho> hey
[23:29] <Suncho> when you uncheck \"Play D2 Missions\" on the main menu
[23:29] <Suncho> and then start a new D1 game
[23:29] <Suncho> does it play the briefing?
[23:31] <RatoN> huh
[23:31] <RatoN> uh
[23:31] <RatoN> it plays the breifing anyway
[23:31] <RatoN> or.... you mean does it make it not play?
[23:31] <Suncho> yeah
[23:31] <RatoN> sec
[23:32] <RatoN> oh mai, you found another bug
[23:32] <RatoN> congrats
[23:32] <RatoN> another problem with me is that the breifing screens go really slow
[23:33] <Suncho> the briefing screen didn't play fory ou?
[23:33] <RatoN> nope
[23:33] <Suncho> when you unchecked play d2 missions?
[23:33] <Suncho> ok
[23:33] <Suncho> now go out
[23:33] <Suncho> and edit your d2x.ini and change it so that it says -nomovies 0 instead of -nomovies 1
[23:33] <Suncho> for me, it's playing the D2 movies instead of the briefing
[23:34] <Suncho> in D1
[23:34] <RatoN> when setting -nomovies to 1?
[23:34] <Suncho> to 0
[23:34] <RatoN> oh oh, ok hold on
[23:34] <Suncho> setting nomovies to 0 basically enables movie playback
[23:34] <RatoN> um
[23:34] <RatoN> oh, now that you mention it, i don't remember seeing the d2 cinematics
[23:34] <Suncho> yeah
[23:35] <Suncho> they're disabled by default
[23:36] <RatoN> yep, it plays the d2 movie
[23:36] <RatoN> did you just find these?
[23:36] <Suncho> no
[23:36] <Suncho> i found that one a while ago
[23:36] <Suncho> but Diedel can't reproduce it
[23:37] <RatoN> oh
[23:37] <Suncho> nobody else has really tested for it
[23:37] <Suncho> but it's been there for a while

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:33 pm**

I running the latest version of D2X-XL here and I seem to run into a problem with weapon selecting. For example if I am using the Fusion cannon and I select the Omega cannon with the number 5 key. I can not switch back to the Fusion cannon. Same thing goes for primary and secondary weapons. But only when going from a D1 weapon to a D2 weapon, after that I can’t switch back. The only way I go back is if I use the ( < > ) keys instead. Is this some kind of bug?

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:05 am**

TigerRaptorFX wrote:I running the latest version of D2X-XL here and I seem to run into a problem with weapon selecting. For example if I am using the Fusion cannon and I select the Omega cannon with the number 5 key. I can not switch back to the Fusion cannon. Same thing goes for primary and secondary weapons. But only when going from a D1 weapon to a D2 weapon, after that I can’t switch back. The only way I go back is if I use the ( < > ) keys instead. Is this some kind of bug?

I got the same thing with 1.5.136. Version 1.5.134 weapons toggle works normal.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:28 am**

Well, that's a bug then. Weapon management in D2 is messed up because of the handling of the super laser.

Suncho,

I need to know where D2X-XL crashes when playing D1 missions. A savegame from short before a crash occurs would be very helpful.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:09 am**

Diedel, the Class 1 Drillers makes horrible sound in Vertigo. Is thaht a bug, or I missed something?

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:42 am**

I will check.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:04 am**

Ok I like the idea the idea that the D1 bosses can teleport again rather than just sit there. But why do the bosses from D1, D2, and Vertigo come and charge right at me. I don't know if this was mentioned before, but that is not Bosses normal behavior?

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:57 am**

Diedel wrote:I need to know where D2X-XL crashes when playing D1 missions. A savegame from short before a crash occurs would be very helpful.

For me it seems to be random. The first crash occured immediately after hitting the exit. I played the same level to recreate it, and it crashed short of, while just fighting robots.

Haven't crashed from playing D2 missions yet though.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:15 pm**

Under 1.5.137 I am unable to configure the sensivity of individual joystick axes when I uncheck \"sync joystick axes\". None of the changes I make to the axes seem to stick.

spud

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:43 pm**

1.5.137:

#1: The HUD weapon icons are displaying 0 homing missiles when I actually have 4.

#2: Most of the weapon icon-related menu options seem to have no effect. The only one that does anything is the one that enables or disables it. Small weapon icons don't make them small, and the only orientation I can get is left/right with the inventory at the top.

#3: There appears to be no lighting at all when I have lightmaps on but disable colored light:

Here's what it looks like with colored light:

Notice that it looks better even though there's no colored light in the scene.

Here's what it looks like with lightmaps disabled altogether:

With lightmaps disabled altogether it looks the best out of the three.

#4: My framerate still completely dies when I use a small game window. This is just to verify that it still happens:

EDIT: Also in 1.5.137

#5: When I enable radar or rear view in my right HUD viewport, the background color of the shield value display changes funny colors:

In Descent: First Strike level 1 it always seems to turn yellow.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:23 pm**

#1 Fixed

#2 For some cockpits, choice of weapon icon position and size is limited.

#3 Fixed

#4 Don't ask me why this happens.

#5 oops

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:02 pm**

Diedel wrote: #2 For some cockpits, choice of weapon icon position and size is limited.

Oh. Oops.

Diedel wrote:#4 Don't ask me why this happens.

What about just disabling screen sizes smaller than the one with the reduced cockpit at the bottom?

1.5.138:

#1: In D1, when I have a weapon select and I press the button for that weapon, it gives me a HUD message saying that I don't have the corresponding D2 weapon:

EDIT: Also in 1.5.138

#2: Since the trackers were down, we tried to do a UDP/IP netgame, but neither one of us could see each other's games. We entered the proper ip addresses.

#3: If I select "Join UDP/IP Netgame" and then press the escape key to back out, I get this message:

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:09 pm**

Hi,
good work with the lights, now they are much better.

bug>
?,136,137 (i didn't check older versions) :
Playing d2x levels ( Glass House, Speed, ...?) results in random CTDs.
Also some of the walls that should be transparent aren't (like the big green ones in Glass House).
Normal D2 levels work fine.
I didn't test any D1 levels.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:42 pm**

Any word to why the Bosses have such odd behavior.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:14 pm**

Regarding the crashes I was getting (Which happens kind of often), I got the crash report, but I wasn't sure how to copy it down (Or if it would be any help). It said it included this following xml file it put in a temp folder.

http://mortalvision.dyndns.org/e80e_appcompat.xml

Does that say anything about the crash?

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