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Oh geez man. 150-250 is great. I get 35 fps at BEST. It's ok though. I'm getting a new computer in a month or so, so that problem should be taken care of. It doesn't much matter to me.

Never mind me. The problem seems to be fixed after 2 years of having it.

What a world of difference that is going to make. It will be like night and day.

I get ~500 FPS, I can't even remember what it was like on my old voodoo2 system that only got 40-60. It amazes me people still have computers that slow.

Krom wrote:I get ~500 FPS, I can't even remember what it was like on my old voodoo2 system that only got 40-60. It amazes me people still have computers that slow.

It's called $.

You can get a computer faster then that, or the parts to upgrade another one for less then $200 these days. A voodoo3 and a pentium 3 @ 1 GHz would do 100-200 FPS.

I use Windows 3.1

After doing some work for my dad's company:

TIPS FOR XP USERS TO IMPROVE THE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR SYSTEMS:

Firstly, and most importantly, turn off ALL user friendly junk. This includes AOL, Dell, and any other pieces of software marketed as "features". Basically, if it comes with XP on a system, and it isn't XP, delete it. I improved a laptop's performance by an easy 50% just by deleting all the Dell junk that came pre-loaded on it.

Second: Get rid of standard features! Windows media player and internet exploder are two of your worst enemies. You can't delete IE, and I'd recommend keeping a version of WMP around just in case, but try replacing IE with firefox (or another version of mozilla) and WMP with WinAmp. WinAmp uses SIGNIFICANTLY less computer resources, to say nothing of being much more customizable than WinAmp.

Third: Get effective, efficient anti-virus and anti-malware software. My personal favorites are Spybot Search and Destroy 1.3 and Ad-Aware for anti-malware purposes, and some form of Norton (NOT the kind that comes pre-loaded on your system, GET A FULL PACKAGE!).

Fourthly: Update regularly! Get the latest virus definitions for all anti-virus and anti-malware programs you have on your system. If your system isn't updated, YOU ARE A SURFING VIRUS MAGNET. Download windows updates once a week. Get service pack 2.

Lastly: This may seem obvious to you, but keep yourself organized. Run virus scans at least once a month, malware scans at least once every 2 weeks. Defrag the hard drive regularly. Most importantly, SHUT DOWN YOUR COMPUTER EVERY NIGHT if at all possible. If it's a server I can understand that you want to keep it running. You should be running a version of windows suited to being a server, however. The point is, leaving your computer running XP 24/7 for a month on end is guaranteed to bork your system up royally. The time your computer spends off is like the time you take to sleep every night--your computer needs to go to sleep and wake up regularly in order to ensure optimal performance.

Stryker wrote:Most importantly, SHUT DOWN YOUR COMPUTER EVERY NIGHT if at all possible. If it's a server I can understand that you want to keep it running. You should be running a version of windows suited to being a server, however. The point is, leaving your computer running XP 24/7 for a month on end is guaranteed to bork your system up royally. The time your computer spends off is like the time you take to sleep every night--your computer needs to go to sleep and wake up regularly in order to ensure optimal performance.

Do you have any idea how completely stupid what you just said is? The only computer that gets messed up from running XP a long time without a reboot is a totally crappy computer that probably would need linux to be stable. I've had and work with computers running XP that go months without being shut down and have zero problems. Also, while largely insignificant hard drives do suffer more from start/stop cycles then they do from just staying on over time. Most everyone here with the best running computers will tell you, they don't shut down or reboot very often.

Yeah, I'll freely admit that if you know what you're doing you can leave a computer up for a year without a reboot (though windows updates require a reboot anyways). However, a large amount of users don't know what control-alt-delete does, or more importantly how to end a process and which processes to end without demolishing their computer in a fireball. Also, programs tend to leave processes running, so... The end result is that probably 80% of the bugs I've run into involve rebooting the computer once to fix.

Krom wrote:A voodoo3 and a pentium 3 @ 1 GHz would do 100-200 FPS.

Minimum?

Stryker wrote: Most importantly, SHUT DOWN YOUR COMPUTER EVERY NIGHT if at all possible. If it's a server I can understand that you want to keep it running. You should be running a version of windows suited to being a server, however. The point is, leaving your computer running XP 24/7 for a month on end is guaranteed to bork your system up royally. The time your computer spends off is like the time you take to sleep every night--your computer needs to go to sleep and wake up regularly in order to ensure optimal performance.

XP pro SP1 on my 400mhz server

It past 100 days after this screen shot was taken, but the power went out one night. And it was running like it was boted up 10 min ago =)

Norton's virus definition subscription policies pissed me off so I trashed it. As much as you pay for Norton you should be able to keep updated and protected without having to pay them one single cent ever again. It's a hastle to reformat or dig through the registry just to re-install Norton and have a renewed subscription without paying for it.

Besides AVG does the trick just fine, for free.

Delkian wrote:

Krom wrote:A voodoo3 and a pentium 3 @ 1 GHz would do 100-200 FPS.

Minimum?

The minimum I got on that system (P3/1000, Voodoo3 3000, 128 MB RAM, WinXP) was around 70 FPS, it ran in the 100-200 range for most outrage levels, the worst you could throw at it was in geodomes, you could bog it to 30-40 FPS outside.

Stryker wrote:Yeah, I'll freely admit that if you know what you're doing you can leave a computer up for a year without a reboot (though windows updates require a reboot anyways). However, a large amount of users don't know what control-alt-delete does, or more importantly how to end a process and which processes to end without demolishing their computer in a fireball. Also, programs tend to leave processes running, so... The end result is that probably 80% of the bugs I've run into involve rebooting the computer once to fix.

I work for a lot of people that dont know anything about computers and half of that is screwed up. I can tell ya, if rebooting fixed as many problems as you think it does, I wouldnt be working for these people.

Krom wrote:You can get a computer faster then that, or the parts to upgrade another one for less then $200 these days. A voodoo3 and a pentium 3 @ 1 GHz would do 100-200 FPS.

I never had over 100 on a P4 1.3 with a 32MB GeForce 2. Even my P4 3.0 and 64MB Radeon X300 doesn't get above 200, as far as I know.

What res were you running? 1600x1200? o_O

I knew the limits of a voodoo3 so I played at 640x480 but got smooth framerates. 800x600 was also totally smooth on that card. My cousin on an Athlon @ 900 MHz and a Geforce 2 was breaking 150-200 FPS at 1024x768 easly. My current system is an Athlon XP at 2.4 GHz and a Geforce FX5900 ultra, it easly reaches 500 FPS at 1152x864 with 4x FSAA. Before I had a geforce3 and 1650 MHz Athlon XP, it got about 350 FPS average at 1024x768. The radeon x300 is probably not much better then that GF2 32MB card. If you never got over 100 on that, you have probably done something wrong.

Damn Top Gun, I've gotten over 300fps in D3 on a P3 1.0ghz 512MB PC133 SDRAM @ 1024x768 with a PCI Geforce MX card! Krom is right, obviously you've done something wrong

Averaged anywhere from 166 to 200 fps in most levels.

IMO minimum framerates are much more interesting than maximum or even average ones.

I have the impression that framerates actually vary quite a lot in D3, so even if you get a high maximum framerate, it doesn't mean that the minimum is all that high, and that's what counts, if you ask me.

Tyranny wrote:Norton's virus definition subscription policies pissed me off so I trashed it. As much as you pay for Norton you should be able to keep updated and protected without having to pay them one single cent ever again.

Since antivirus software has to be updated heavily -- even more so than most other software -- after the initial release, antivirus business actually resembles a service more than a plain product. IMO it actually makes sense that updates cost something.

It would be a bit different for example in case of an operating system because in theory it could be 'perfect' from the release and all patches are corrections for the mistakes made by the developers (yes, they always happen, and no, they can't be avoided) whereas updates to antivirus software are part of its nature -- antivirus software can't possibly be perfect from the beginning, at least as long as it relies on virus definition databases (and any other approach isn't really feasible, as far as I can tell).

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I expect a little bit more for my money then most. Instead we all get...

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I provide a service. I paid $50 for the darn thing, now give me my updates damn it

No, I was running at 800x600 with everything on.

Like we said, you probably have something wrong, and it might not be with your D3 settings.

Would the letters "D-E-L-L" provide a fitting explanation?

DELL Explains EVERYTHING

"DUDE you got shafted"