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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:42 am
by Krom
Or you can just lob the a Fusion round down the hall and dodge one or two MD rounds while you watch them sit there like deer in the headlighs. Tho personally the best way to get someone who is camped down a hall shooting MD at you is to switch and use MD or Vauss against them, nothing else gets them moving faster. I love that instant of hesitation where they freeze up after you fire a MD round instead of the Fusion round they were expecting.

Oh yeah, page++ & postcount++

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:25 pm
by Kyouryuu
A better question is what a weapon like the Mass Driver is even doing in a cramped level liks Pyroglyphic. And, in addition, can a level really become popular in this community without the Mass Driver?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:44 pm
by kurupt
nearly all of the favored levels by the skilled players out there have no md. could a level be popular with the "average" player without md? nah, probably not.

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:38 pm
by Krom
That or the MD in levels that skilled pilots prefer is modified to be less dominant. Take otherones levels for instance, when you think about it, MD is treated more like a secondary weapon in those levels rather then a primary.

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:51 pm
by sheepdog
Gee, I said something stupid and completely wrong, but it generated some very interesting discussion.

/me pats myself on the back.

AND I'm dense enough to argue: in a level like skybox back in the day when it was really crowded in there, was it just my suckitude that made it seem like it would be really tough to use an MD? Was MD in there? I know I'm a dilletante compared to you wisemen of D3, but was/is MD in skybox? And what about that little tiny level where you spawned in the green hall with all the weapons. Tiny! What was that called, and was there any MD in there? Remember it was always packed with people? My alzheimers is kickin in and I can't remember its name.

Gaming for me is like math, I really love it but I have absolutely no natural talent for it. I'm thinking I did something really perversely wrong in a past life.

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:57 am
by Clayman
The argument is that for the average player a level needs MD or lots of 2ndaries, not necessarily both. Skybox has Loads of 2ndaries.

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:18 am
by WarAdvocat
Heh

I used to suck because I used loads of secondaries.

Now I suck because n00bs kill me with secondaries waaaay too often.

The stages of suckness I go through baffle the mind.

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:17 am
by Krom
Heh, I suck because I use Fusion + Any secondary for kills often. :P

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:48 am
by Unix
Krom wrote:Heh, I suck because I use Fusion + Any secondary for kills often. :P
cheap :roll:

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:17 pm
by Sirius
Secondary weapons are fine in moderation, but Nysa/Athena/etc had quite enough, thank you.

I'm sure average players can kill each other without six high-powered secondary weapons per ship. It'll just take longer. Only thing to worry about is what happens when our old friend the 'skilled pilot' turns up...

But hey, they're going to clean up anyway.

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:55 pm
by Top Gun
Unix wrote:
Krom wrote:Heh, I suck because I use Fusion + Any secondary for kills often. :P
cheap :roll:
Um...what's cheap at all about that? I do the same thing myself (when I'm able to get a kill, that is :P). Both Fusion and secondaries are weapons included in D3, and they're every bit as valid as one of your precious Super Laser dogfights. I'm a tunnel rat at heart; I generally don't like long dogfights. As far as I'm concerned, use whatever tactic works for you, and use it often.