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Apple Safari browser for Windows

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:38 pm
by De Rigueur
Anyone use this?
I thought I'd give it a try just to snub Microsoft.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:09 pm
by Sirius
I use Firefox to do that.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:07 pm
by Firewheel
I'm on a Mac, and I like Firefox much, much more than Safari.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:44 pm
by Grendel
Can be d/loaded here BTW.

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:25 pm
by Mobius
It blows. Don't bother.

It's like a Firefox version 0.6
How Apple can stand with hand on heart and say this is a V3.0 browser is beyond me.
Handy for checking web sites in, but that's about it.

Give them a solid year of PROPER development work on it, and it might be worth something, but for right now, Firefox totally owns it.

I've done some speed testing this morning with it too, and the claim it is twice as fast as IE is complete BS. It is \"much of a muchness\" with Firefox, and **maybe** a fraction faster than IE, but not noticeably.

Disclaimer: I'm sitting on the end of a 10Mb/s fibre-to-the-premises which connects straight to Internet backbone.

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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:34 pm
by Duper
Mobius wrote: Disclaimer: I'm sitting on the end of a 10Mb/s fibre-to-the-premises which connects straight to Internet backbone.
you suck.

;)

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:18 am
by Kyouryuu
Mobius wrote:Disclaimer: I'm sitting on the end of a 10Mb/s fibre-to-the-premises which connects straight to Internet backbone.
Is that all? :P

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:40 am
by DCrazy
Two things for Mobius:
  1. It's a beta. Specifically, it's a beta announced and released at a developer conference.
  2. They had to port the entire Cocoa AppKit as well as WebKit to Windows to do this. Do you realize how big of a deal this is? iTunes runs on Carbon, so there's no code-sharing between the two.
The fact that they did this means the old Windows NeXTstep environment never did die after all. :D

By the way, I see your 10 Mbps and raise you one OC-48 link straight to the VZ backbone. The connectors terminate in the next room over. ;)

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:40 am
by De Rigueur
Mobius wrote:Disclaimer: I'm sitting on the end of a 10Mb/s fibre-to-the-premises which connects straight to Internet backbone.
Well, I'm sitting at the end of a 41.2 Kbps dial-up connection. :D

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:34 am
by Top Wop
Heh, going from IE to Safari is like going from a Honda to a Hyundai. You're just going from bad to worse.

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:03 pm
by Lothar
Top Wop wrote:Heh, going from IE to Safari is like going from a Honda to a Hyundai. You're just going from bad to worse.
ROFL...

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:14 pm
by MD-2389
Honestly, the more alternatives to IE the better. If anything, this gives the Firefox team another program to compete against. Especially now that Firefox has 25% of the browser market. :) (source)

Also, for those of you that want to browser your firefox cache then copy/paste this into your address bar:

about:cache?device=memory

Anything you want to keep? Right-click and \"download\".

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:15 pm
by Jeff250
This is good for Web development. Although it's really only the Internet Explorers that have to be taken into special consideration these days.

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:44 am
by Tricord
DCrazy wrote:By the way, I see your 10 Mbps and raise you one OC-48 link straight to the VZ backbone. The connectors terminate in the next room over. ;)
I can't beat that, but you're probably not paying for that yourself ;)
I do have a gigE connect to the Interoute backbone and negociating with Level3 for a fastE link. There are two other uplink to local peering points.

I guess that compensates the slowness IE supposedly has over IE and Safari, doesn't it? ;) (yes, IE6 user here).

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:09 pm
by Zantor
Sirius wrote:I use Firefox to do that.
X2

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:06 pm
by dissent
Jason D. O'Grady wrote:While I agree with Tishgarten that Safari for Windows gives developers one less reason to justify buy a Mac, it’s a calculated risk that Apple’s taking in exchange for having more applications available for iPhone at launch. It seems pretty obvious to me that Safari for Windows is nothing more than an iPhone development tool.
from http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=601

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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:50 pm
by DCrazy
Tricord wrote:I can't beat that, but you're probably not paying for that yourself ;)
Strangely enough I can actually legitimately claim to be paying for it. $35,000 a year in tuition, plus a $3/month telecom fee (local phone + internet). The fact that the connection is subsidized by Verizon due to court order (they overcharged all of their business customers illegaly and to make restitution to us donated fiber and videoconferencing suites) is inconsequential to my e-penis. :P