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I love the feature, and I think it should be on. I am wondering what everyone else thinks.

P.S: If your on descentbb.com and descentbb.net, please vote on descentbb.net only, but discussion can be anywhere.

With bandwidth these days it shouldn't be too much of an issue; unless there is a cross Atlantic connections (server or player in Europe and the other in the States)

Accurates doesn't increase bandwidth requirements, is just requires more cpu power on the server, plus a certain level of patience from players who are used to shield-orb hits counting.

That said, whenever I've hosted a server with accurates on, it just usually results in players complaining. Except at LANs, of course.

lol! Players complain all the time anyways. ^^

Foil wrote:That said, whenever I've hosted a server with accurates on, it just usually results in players complaining.

It's because they're forced to aim their shots and lead better.

I didn't vote, but I don't think it should be enabled online unless it auto-kicks >75ms.

Can you imagine Veins with accurates?

Ferno wrote:

Foil wrote:That said, whenever I've hosted a server with accurates on, it just usually results in players complaining.

It's because they're forced to aim their shots and lead better.

Exactly. People are used to lobbing stuff around, and when it doesn't work as well with accurates on, they start to complain.

Testiculese wrote:Can you imagine Veins with accurates?

Last time I played Veins with accurates was at the NYC LAN. It was certainly different, you couldn't just snap MD shots quite the same, but it was a blast!

OK, now do that online (which is what I meant )

It'll be nice when I can jam myself into a corner of a hallway and actually have it help, instead of that giant sphere hanging off my arse..

I already can't hit anyone, so what would be the difference?

LOL, Krom, I'm with you, I need all the help I can get.

Turning it on will shy people away from the game because it's THAT much harder to play it and get any kills. People have a hard enough time to hit something now. Why make it harder?

This would be good for players who like to improve.

Wings wrote:This would be good for players who like to improve.

Example A: Me.

Turn em on, I need to get better.

Turn them on on a single server, let people know. This way the newbies can play on the easier servers until they get good enough to even attempt it.

Two noobies who would REALLY WANT Accurate Collisions:
MD-Wood and Sendokami/Forthsye

Krom wrote:I already can't hit anyone, so what would be the difference?

Lies! It would let me dodge your triple-barney more easily...

As I have always Said.....\"Shoot the Ship, Not The Shield\" you will not notice the slight difference, except that Vauss shreds instead of peppering, MD if not hit on the main hull of the Ship only does minor damage and you can recovery is fast, Fusion in tight hallways can be dodged..

Servers hosting accurates should state AWC - AWC/AC or AWCRV - AWCRV/AC(best) in the Title

AWC = Accurate Weapon Collisions
AWCRV = ???

Foil wrote:AWC = Accurate Weapon Collisions
AWCRV = ???

AWCRV - Accurate Weapon Collision / Rotational Velocity

Why has no one mentioned the word \"missile\" or \"secondary\"?

Turning on accurates definitely makes it harder to hit people with primary weapons,
but it's not going to affect missiles much - giving players yet one more reason to do
the usual stuff: enter the room, bounce around for a few seconds emptying their
inventory of secondaries, scram, resupply, repeat.

In a level where you need primaries to get most of your kills, accurates can be
turned on, but in general I think it should be left off.

I can agree with that. Accurates should be off for \"Secondary Chucking\" levels (like Subway or Abend 2).

P.S. I currently have two games up with Accurates on - BillTheCat and Gladius.

i say it sould be on. even with the secondary weps. after all iv died quite a few times from smart/mega/homeing. when im trying to get around the courner. and they hit that tiny bit of Shield. and it would help newbs like me deal with the fusion

That's more likely because of the latency (lag) between you and the server;
from its point of view you're not yet past the corner, so effectively the weapon
is closer than it appears.

It may also go around the corner while from the player's point of view it hit the
wall, thereby creating the \"silent\" smart/mega effect.

The Lion wrote:Why has no one mentioned the word "missile" or "secondary"?

Turning on accurates definitely makes it harder to hit people with primary weapons,
but it's not going to affect missiles much - giving players yet one more reason to do
the usual stuff: enter the room, bounce around for a few seconds emptying their
inventory of secondaries, scram, resupply, repeat.

In a level where you need primaries to get most of your kills, accurates can be
turned on, but in general I think it should be left off.

Wrong, secondaries rely on shield hit's also with accurates off. What is easier to hit and or shred to pieces with homers, concs or frags

The BASKETBALL or the SHOE that fits inside


The difference bewtween the 2 is obvious, do you need me to draw a picture????

The most obvious difference with accurates on vs off isn't in primaries, it is the frag missile. They immediately seem incredibly underpowered compared to normal because so much more shrapnel misses without the huge hit sphere to catch it all.

the flipside to that thinking is people see how the frag is supposed to act and realize it's incredibly overpowered with the hitsphere on.

BUBBALOU wrote:...secondaries rely on shield hit's also with accurates off.

Krom wrote:...more [frag missile] shrapnel misses without the huge hit sphere to catch it all.

Hm, one of you has to be wrong there. I'd put my $$ on Krom being right that secondaries have to hit the ship model (not just the shield). Maybe I'll check it out this weekend.

Foil wrote:

BUBBALOU wrote:...secondaries rely on shield hit's also with accurates off.

Krom wrote:...more [frag missile] shrapnel misses without the huge hit sphere to catch it all.

Hm, one of you has to be wrong there. I'd put my $$ on Krom being right that secondaries have to hit the ship model (not just the shield). Maybe I'll check it out this weekend.

We are both right, read what Bubbalou replied to and said a little more carefully.

Krom wrote:We are both right, read what Bubbalou replied to and said a little more carefully.

D'oh! You're right, I misread B'Lou's statement. (My apologies, Bubbalou.)

I still think Lion is right, though. Having accurates on affects primaries more than it affects secondaries (with the exception of frags, as Krom pointed out).

Yes, it clearly affects both, but I agree with Lion that it weights things toward secondary-chucking, especially in levels which already have way too many napalms, mortars, 4-pack-homers, etc.

Krom wrote:I already can't hit anyone, so what would be the difference?

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