DescentBB

Precisely why I don't belong to any organized religion. Many, if not most, are just spawns of people like this deluded nutcase, Glenn Beck, who claims to hear the \"true\" voice of a higher power that speaks through him. He then basks in the limelight of power and adoration from the screaming crowds, espousing all sorts of religious claptrap to enthrall groups of clueless sheeples in this country. Is that all it takes, a 'voice' in the head and a message that stupefies only those with plastic minds, to morph from a \"television personality\" to an \"evangelizing prophet\"? Good God, our populace is screwed up!

Beck is just preaching a politically twisted logic of hate for his own purposes and the agenda of his corporate masters. By using the term 'liberation theology' he's accusing Obama of being an un-American Muslim Islamic Socialist Communist terrorist (did I get it all?) who is out to destroy America.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/T ... ristianity

Beck's a self-admitted \"rodeo clown.\"

LMAO @ \"Christian Science Monitor\"

Funny how some sheeple will believe any clap trap they read.

I'd definitely agree that Glenn Beck is a religious nutcase. He's also a Mormon, but I repeat myself.

It's funny that Glenn Beck would criticize Obama for having beliefs that are \"not Christian beliefs\". I guess that means Obama isn't going to get into the Celestial Kingdom or be exalted to godhood where he can take on multiple spirit wives and populate his own planet... HEH

There was nothing at this event espousing Mormonism, just a general call to look to yourselves, be more honorable people, and look to God. At one point, there was a line of 240 clergy on the \"platform\" - Christians, Jews, and Muslims - they referred to as the Black Robe Regiment, all supporting these general ideals.

Hundreds of thousands gathered with no signs, no polital speaches, no arrests.... the horror of it all.

I wish I'd been there.

Thanks tc for posting this, after watching the News Hour the other day, I was wondering if I was going to get the chance to rip on the prez again…

He (the prez) made a remark having to go with understanding how someone like him (Beck) could get so many people riled up and ready to vote…or some such.

I didn’t write down the quote because there was no thread, I could post in. I guess I just learned a good lesson.

I had to laugh, thinking of how much the remark reflected on him.(the prez)

Spidey, linky here with Obama quote I think you are referring to:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38906337/ns/nightly_news/

“It’s not surprising that somebody like a Mr. Beck is able to stir up a certain portion of the country. That's been true throughout our history,” he said. But “what I’m focused on is making sure that the decisions we’re making now are going to be be not good for the nightly news, not good even necessarily for the next election, but are good for the next generation.”

Herculosis, I didn't say Beck espoused Mormonism. I said he claimed to be getting his ideas directly from someone higher, GOD perhaps, and that he was told by this "higher voice" to hold this rally to "restore honor" to our country. And what does religion have to do with "restoring honor" to our country anyway? And what are these "traditional values" he's referring to anyway? Does he mean "traditional WHITE values"? His crowd was mostly made up of older white Americans.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100828/ap_ ... s_dc_rally

Here's one exchange between Sharpton's group and the Beck tea baggers from this article:

AP wrote:One woman from the Beck rally shouted to the Sharpton marchers: "Go to church. Restore America with peace." Some civil rights marchers chanted "don't drink the tea" to people leaving Beck's rally.

So what Beck's saying is that if Americans don't turn to a God or church, our country is going down the terrible road to Marxism or Socialism? That's what the coded "liberation theology" remark directly refers to here. And the only person that would be politically aimed at is Obama. Despite what Beck claimed he told people, to not bring signs to his rally, they still appeared. Another quote from the above link:

AP wrote:Beck had appealed to those attending not to bring signs with them. But Mike Cash, a 56-year-old Atlanta businessman, found a way around that. Over his polo shirt, he wore a T-shirt that read "Treat Obama like a used tea bag, toss him out now!"

Now why do Americans think Obama's not a proper American religious person that would extol "traditional values", other than the fact he's black?

Lothar wrote:I'd definitely agree that Glenn Beck is a religious nutcase. He's also a Mormon, but I repeat myself.

It's funny that Glenn Beck would criticize Obama for having beliefs that are "not Christian beliefs". I guess that means Obama isn't going to get into the Celestial Kingdom or be exalted to godhood where he can take on multiple spirit wives and populate his own planet... HEH

Maybe THIS is why Lothar:

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1701/poll-o ... -religious

Yea, that’s the quote, thanks.

tc we (you) elected someone that was supposed to be the great healer, and we got remarks like “guns and religion” it’s no surprise you now see people like Beck sprouting out of the woodwork.

Obama was elected with such great hope and fanfare, of course the reaction was going to be just as dramatic…it’s physics…equal and opposite reaction…

What did you expect? Is this a surprise?

Lol…spell check wants to change “Obama” to “Osama”

Spidey wrote:Lol…spell check wants to change “Obama” to “Osama”

Olbermann had a good one about Beck tonight! If the link breaks, search for 'Fact-check for Beck' on Olbermann's site.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#38944631

And the No-Nothing Party! The harbinger of the modern Tea Party! Against Catholics back then no less!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

So your going to use Olberman to criticise Beck???? ROFL

Yea! I'm amazed that a sports commentator can even get a political show, but seeing as he's on MSNBC it's not surprising.

For your edification:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/08/31/ca ... more-61739


FNC blows the competition away yet again.

So many on the right will brag about the comparitive ratings between Beck and Olbermann....

...but in my opinion, that is definitely a +1 for the left. Sure they can be fun, but any one who takes either of them seriously has no regard for the truth. I do wish there was a conservative equivalent to CNN.

It is not Beck that scares me, it is the amount of drones who watch him and take him seriously.

Olbermann is a sports caster, Beck is from a morning zoo radio show.

Gooberman wrote:It is not Beck that scares me, it is the amount of drones who watch him and take him seriously.

Exactly. He provides fantastic Daily Show fodder, but the fact that millions of people think he's legitimate terrifies me.

CUDA wrote:So your going to use Olberman to criticise Beck???? ROFL

No, but it was a entertaining jab. All these TV 'personalities' are just entertainers after all. I don't take Olbermann any more seriously than any of the others out there.

But seriously, what does this tell you about the state of politics in the U.S., that Beck felt he had the need to wear a bulletproof vest! What, all those little wimpy liberals are going to come out in droves and shoot him for his crazy talk? Make an effing martyr of him? I thought that was the purview of the right wing crazies. Besides, according to the right wingers, liberals don't own guns!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... rally.html

tunnelcat wrote:liberals don't own guns!

LOL

Nobody on the right believes liberals don’t own guns…stop using the internet for everything.

tunnelcat wrote:
But seriously, what does this tell you about the state of politics in the U.S., that Beck felt he had the need to wear a bulletproof vest! What, all those little wimpy liberals are going to come out in droves and shoot him for his crazy talk? Make an effing martyr of him? I thought that was the purview of the right wing crazies. Besides, according to the right wingers, liberals don't own guns!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... rally.html

Perhaps Beck is has a right to be concerned about those wimpy libs:

"A radical enviornmentalist who took three hostages at the Discovery Channel headquarters while wearing what police may be explosives was shot and killed by officers, police said."

"In a rambling manifesto on Lee's website, believed to have been written by Lee, the writer rails against "disgusting human babies," "parasitic infants," and says people should "disassemble civilization." The manifesto also calls on Discovery to "broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-enters- ... d=11535128

That guy was a laugh and a half

You know...he kinda reminds me of another false prophet...

Al Gore anyone?

ThunderBunny wrote:You know...he kinda reminds me of another false prophet...

Al Gore anyone?

At least Al Gore has some credentials: the man enlisted to fight in Vietnam, was in Congress for 24 years, served as vice president, ran for president, (lost because of some shady backroom deals,) won a Nobel Peace Prize, etc.

Olbermann and Beck... have crummy news commentary shows. Not quite the same thing.

won a Nobel Peace Prize, etc.

LOL

They hand those out to anyone these days.

ThunderBunny wrote:

won a Nobel Peace Prize, etc.

LOL

They hand those out to anyone these days.

Oh? Where do I sign up?

null0010 wrote:

ThunderBunny wrote:

won a Nobel Peace Prize, etc.

LOL

They hand those out to anyone these days.

Oh? Where do I sign up?

You simply have to have a friend with credentials to sign you up. For example Rush Limbaugh was also up for a prize that year because some people with the ability to nominate him wanted to illustrate how Al's nomination was turning the value of the prize into political fodder.

As to his enlistment to 'fight' in Vietnam, his father, a Senator and one of the founders of "the backroom deal", raised him from birth to be a politician and had him sent there as a resume enhancement where he was back from the line of fire as a reporter...a job that was secured for him before he ever hit boot camp...if he even had to do the whole boot camp thing.

According to Michael O'Hara, Gore's closest army buddy, "We never pulled guard duty in the field because we weren't part of those units. The only place we stood guard was back at Bien Hoa," the secure base where Gore lived. "It was the equivalent of being a school crossing guard. I know guys that didn't even take their rifles with them." (The National Review, November, 1999) Other soldiers with long experience in Vietnam said that Gore was treated differently from his fellow enlistees. H. Alan Leo, a photographer in the press brigade office where Gore worked as a reporter, said soldiers were ordered to keep Gore out of harm's way. "It blew me away," Leo said. "I was to make sure he didn't get into a situation he could not get out of. They didn't want him to get into trouble. So we went into the field after the fact [after combat actions], and that limited his exposure to any hazards." (Los Angeles Times 10/15/99) Leo described his half-dozen or so trips into the field with Gore as situations where "I could have worn a tuxedo." (Newsweek, 12/6/99) Gore's story changed to the more "accurate" version in his October 1999 interview with Talk magazine, though he wasn't asked why the story has now changed.

His stint in congress is equally full of self serving hypocrisy. He mouthed off about the environment and at the same time used his power to have the Dept of the Navy release their oil fields in California to a company his father owned stock in Occidental Petroleum, stock that was passed down to Al which he put in his mothers name in a trust for his retrieval later. So, yea, all that and he's an all around ★■◆● of the highest degree.

Still think he's above Olbermann on any kind of scoreboard?

Hmpf! Sounds just like Bush Jr., who got to protect his little butt from getting shot at by going into the Texas National Guard and drinking and partying during the Vietnam War. Or Mr.Cheney getting a deferment because he was 'married'. Opps, I meant 5 deferments! What patriots! I notice the military doesn't allow many of those as reasons for deferment now. Oh, that's right, we don't have a draft now.

So these 2 birdbrains get to be President and Vice President respectively, in charge of the ALL our nation's military with ALL that \"experience\" gained from dodging their duty!

TC, you forgot to mention Herr Klinton and his out of country college to avoid the draft

woodchip wrote:TC, you forgot to mention Herr Klinton and his out of country college to avoid the draft

approve of one draft dodger, disapprove of another.

isn't hypocrisy fun?

Ferno wrote:

woodchip wrote:TC, you forgot to mention Herr Klinton and his out of country college to avoid the draft

approve of one draft dodger, disapprove of another.

isn't hypocrisy fun?

A Canuuker speaks out from the bleachers.

The fact that religion is used in ways like this is one of the reasons I've fallen from actually having faith in God to merely being agnostic. If there is a God, I would wager that he is either laughing his ass off at us, or shaking his head in shame.

woodchip wrote:TC, you forgot to mention Herr Klinton and his out of country college to avoid the draft

Yep, I forgot about his own little military skip out. I guess that explains why he screwed up his little 'wars'. By the way, just because I'm liberal leaning, I've never approved of spoiled brat party boy Clinton either. In fact, we've had a long set of liberal presidents that haven't had any stones or showed any leadership AT ALL.