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Silicon Brain

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:36 pm
by Tunnelcat
One step closer to building a full hardware simulation of the human brain. The Neurogrid. Let there be silicon dreams.

http://theinstitute.ieee.org/people/stu ... mics-brain

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:52 am
by roid
It simulates 1 million silicon neurons. The human brain has ~ one hundred billion. So it needs to be only 1 hundred thousand times bigger, that's not bad TBH.
There's already been talk of a billion neurons. We're getting there.

From OP's article though:
There are approximately 100 billion electrically excitable neurons in the brain to process information. “A defining characteristic is that they communicate with each other via electrical impulses, which are analogous to digital packets,” says Fok.
Weird. AFAIK all Neurons communicate with eachother via chemical neuro-transmitters across the synaptic cleft, not via electrical impulses. Electrical impulses are how neurons transmit messages across themselves (ie: from one side of a single neuron to the other side of the SAME neuron), but it's not how signals travel neuron to neuron - that's via neuro-chemicals.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:47 am
by Alter-Fox
True. But that still is analogous to packets. Maybe even moreso than electrical impulses would be. Which technically would mean they're more like packets than the packets themselves, and that's great.
Unintentional correctness FTW.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:28 pm
by Pandora
roid wrote:]Weird. AFAIK all Neurons communicate with eachother via chemical neuro-transmitters across the synaptic cleft, not via electrical impulses. Electrical impulses are how neurons transmit messages across themselves (ie: from one side of a single neuron to the other side of the SAME neuron), but it's not how signals travel neuron to neuron - that's via neuro-chemicals.
exactly.
I also don't get how these impulses - be they chemical or electrical - would be anything akin to packets. Isn't the definition of packet that they contain information: a sequence of bits? the pulses that neurons send are not like that. There is no information hidden in the specific sequence.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:51 pm
by Tunnelcat
This thing is essentially an analog computer, not a digital one, so it doesn't use binary code.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:18 am
by Isaac
lol silly cone brane

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What I really like is how efficient this is over the big blue Ibm computer. It makes me wonder hwo much more effecient this could get.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:36 am
by Aggressor Prime
But can it play Crysis?

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:38 am
by Isaac
With improvement, it might actually be able to play Crysis as a player.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:06 am
by Alter-Fox
And be indistinguishable from its human opponents?
Would it be chatty?

Wait... does Crysis even have multiplayer or am I making no sense?

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:19 am
by Isaac
With more perfection, it could learn to ★■◆● about laggers. And if killed, it could call you a hacker.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:48 pm
by Tunnelcat
Unless it killed you first.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:43 pm
by Aggressor Prime
Yes Crysis has a multiplayer, although the original Crysis only has like 1-2 servers up. Crysis Wars is where everyone moved to. It is still pretty active despite the launch of Crysis 2.

Re: Silicon Brain

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:53 pm
by roid
From what i understand, coz i've been assuming this is the same brain emulation team i've been hearing about months ago, is that OP's chip is specifically designed to run algorithms that are good-enough approximations of neural interconnectivity. Someone got lucky and found that neural activity can be simplified down a lot, or something, it sounded convincing to me when i read it, but i've forgotten most of the specifics.
Also it IS digital afaik. Lets call these chips NPUs (neural processing units).