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Katrina

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:59 am
by Flabby Chick
Just been reading up on what would happen at New Orleans if a big hurricane would hit (i think i did the same last year). Not good guys, not good. It looks like it's spot on.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/index.shtml

Anyone in the vicinity here?

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:33 am
by De Rigueur
I'm in south Mississippi, about 100 miles inland, and we've been in the predicted path of a few hurricanes lately, but have been visited only by their fringes.

Tornados are another thing, though. My town was hit last April and one touched down about a half mile from my house, uprooting trees and snapping telephone poles in two. It hit the local school, but no one was injured.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs. ... 5504070372

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:52 am
by will_kill
Well I'll be dam....my homestate. Hey De Riguer, I was raised in a small town outside Tupelo...Amory to be exact. And actually it was more like the Bigbee
Bottem since I lived and worked on farmland owned by the Wayne Hamilton Family.
Brings back memories.....hope my famo' makes it thru alright :(


err...Go Golden Eagles!(although I'm really a Rebels fan :wink: ).

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:56 am
by FunkyStickman
I'm in New Orleans.... after what the last couple of storms did here, I'm not thrilled about this one. There's still trees and gas station canopies down from two months ago. I don't think we'd survive a direct hit.

Please pray for us. New Orleans is 90% below sea level. Tha last big hurricane that had a direct hit here was in the '60s, and people were without power and clean water for weeks.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:06 am
by will_kill
FunkyStickman wrote:I'm in New Orleans.... after what the last couple of storms did here, I'm not thrilled about this one. There's still trees and gas station canopies down from two months ago. I don't think we'd survive a direct hit.Please pray for us. New Orleans is 90% below sea level. Tha last big hurricane that had a direct hit here was in the '60s, and people were without power and clean water for weeks.

In all seriousness, I'd suggest gettin' while the gettin's good....this is my prayer to you.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:27 am
by Top Gun
Best of luck to you. Keep yourself and your family safe, and get out of there if you can.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:33 am
by Skyalmian
Bye-bye, oil.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:40 am
by Top Gun
Skyalmian wrote:Bye-bye, oil.
Who gives a **** about oil; it's the people who have to deal with this that you should be thinking of.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:45 am
by Skyalmian
"It's the people who have to deal with this that you should be thinking of."
I am. :(

If they're positive it's going to go there, they better stop twiddling their thumbs and tell everyone in N.O. to leave now.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:55 am
by Nitrofox125
They did issue a voluntary evacuation in the last 24 hours.

Best of luck to everone down there.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:13 pm
by Top Gun
Skyalmian wrote:If they're positive it's going to go there, they better stop twiddling their thumbs and tell everyone in N.O. to leave now.
You're absolutely right. I saw a special on Discovery recently about the levee improvements to New Orleans that were recently completed; they're designed to stand up to a Category 3 storm surge. There are plans for a more ambitious system that could supposedly hold up to Category 5 surges, but nothing's been done about it yet. Either way, the picture that the special presented of what would happen if New Orleans were hit directly was anything but pretty. Even worse is the fact that all the levees in the world can't do much against huge amounts of rain. If I lived anywhere near there, I would be at least a few hundred miles north by now.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:57 pm
by Dedman
I lived in Florida for 7 years. Hurricanes scared the hell out of me. Earth quakes were never that scary.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:08 pm
by Flabby Chick
nhc site wrote: A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN COAST OF
LOUISIANA EAST OF MORGAN CITY TO THE MOUTH OF THE PEARL RIVER...
INCLUDING METROPOLITAN NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONCHARTRAIN. A
HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN
THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.
If i saw that 'stickman; forcasted for where i live; and the potential crap involved with it, i'd be out like a shot. Good luck to you and yours sunshine, i hope it veers off somwhere else for ya. If you do up and pack to leave don't forget your Descent disks.
:P

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:47 pm
by FunkyStickman
We are planning on leaving, but the sorry state of the Interstate here leaves people gridlocked for 20 miles going west. The last bad hurricane that came through, we split for, but we had to use a very old seldom-used road, working our way through the swamps until we hooked up with I-49 from Houma to Lafayette. We wouldn't have made it out any other way. There were people *siting still* in their cars on the interstate for over 12 hours in some places.

Thank God I'm born and raised in the swamps and kow how to get out of dodge.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:33 am
by will_kill
FunkyStickman wrote:We are planning on leaving, but the sorry state of the Interstate here leaves people gridlocked for 20 miles going west. The last bad hurricane that came through, we split for, but we had to use a very old seldom-used road, working our way through the swamps until we hooked up with I-49 from Houma to Lafayette. We wouldn't have made it out any other way. There were people *siting still* in their cars on the interstate for over 12 hours in some places.Thank God I'm born and raised in the swamps and know how to get out of dodge.
Can't ya' take Hwy 10 outta there? I would head east then north since I believe everyone is thinking West(avoid gridlock). I think you only have today (Sunday) left to get outta' there...Mondays wake-up call is apt to be extremely rude...Good luck my Descent friend.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:43 am
by Phoenix Red
Friend of mine has evacuated. Hope she/her stuff gets off clean.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:54 am
by Flabby Chick
Bloody hell it's upgraded to a 'five'.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:54 am
by De Rigueur
Looks like I'm in the middle of the projected path. Hope it weakens . . .

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:54 am
by Skyalmian
It won't. Get out.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:57 am
by Krom
Now would be a good time to flee.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:03 am
by roid

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:44 am
by Couver_
Man how did I miss this? I should be moving down there after Jan for a few years..

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:06 am
by bash
That's one hell of a storm. Here's hoping everyone battens down the hatches really, really tight.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:11 am
by Sirian
Get out. Get the **** out of there, people. GET OUT NOW!

This witch looks like the perfect storm. :(


- Sirian

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:21 am
by Top Gun
My God...this is unbelievably bad. Anyone even remotely near there, get the hell away. These pictures...this thing is a killer.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:38 pm
by catch22
I'm glad to hear no one here is stupid enough to stay.

This looks really really bad.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:41 pm
by Skyalmian
There are people staying in N.O. They're the stubborn ones that say they can't leave (I remember a mention about 100,000 people not having transportation access) or will "ride it out".

Btw, is there a city (population around 3-7 million maybe) within Katrina's path that is sitting on a hill of sorts? Has rocky hills/mountains nearby. It's extremely important -- if there is, everyone in that city needs to leave immediately, since it's at risk of completely sliding into mud.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:33 pm
by Kiran
My relatives lives in southwestern Louisiana so I'm rather glad that the eastern side is taking the worst of it.
The only reason these people hadn't bother to leave this morning is because they looked out their windows and see a clear sky...
A clear sky does not mean anything. These people should know better than to just linger around until the absolute danger arrives.
Someone mentioned that newstations are having trouble finding someone to go down there and make a live coverage on Katrina. At least these people are smart.

Do we still have any crazy reporters somewhere?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:27 pm
by woodchip
At 165 mph winds, experts say tall high rise buildings may sway and even topple. There is also some concern all the people taking shelter in the local sports pavilian may not be safe. The local e-ways are now closed and traffic on the main exit routes are moving at a crawl. God help all those people that get caught up in the storm.
I got caught up in a 100 mph storm front here in michigan that blew apart a building I was framing in. Three fractured side process on my vertibrae and stitches in my arm from being slammed into the concrete deck. I can't imagine 165 mph winds.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:01 pm
by Nitrofox125
The fastest I've experienced is about 90 in the middle of a mountain pass, godspeed to everyone trying to leave and good luck to everybody trying to stay.... I would be out of there the day or two before the voluntary evacuations... what's the draw to stay later?

I was watching Fox and they had some people down there. Shepard Smith (I don't think I spelled that right) is one of them, in the French quater, and now he's stuck there and can't get out, so I guess there are some reporters crazy enough to do coverage...

I don't see how the superdome is going to be any safer than houses for 30,000 people (unless they're all homeless, visiting, etc), perhaps it's just an easy way to locate and cure people when they get hurt since they're all in the same place as opposed to spreading them all out. But I still don't know if I would voluntarily go into a huge bowl shaped structure right in the path of a hurricane.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:28 pm
by Ferno
If you need to get out of a place fast, first rule is never use the popular routes. they'll be clogged up. Get a map, find a route through side streets that link up to a freeway at the next farthest point to where you need to be on the freeway.

What's your location Funkystickman?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:09 pm
by Skyalmian
Those that "can't leave" New Orleans are banking on this?! for their survival? That's going to be an eternal graveyard for 100,000 people!

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:16 pm
by AceCombat
considering the Super Dome is a massive and mainly concrete structure, i would stay in that compared to some of the other places they consider for refuge.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:53 pm
by Top Gun
I'm inclined to agree with Ace. The thing's built of solid concrete and reinforced steel, and I'd have to think that its relatively low profile and round sides would help to divert the main force of the winds around or above it. I'd certainly consider it safer than a row home at a time like this. Besides, what other choice do they have?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:02 pm
by De Rigueur
I'm about 125 miles north of New Orleans and it started raining a little while ago. Looks like we'll get hurricane winds here. I've got a storm shelter so I'm not concerned about safety, but it'll probably take a while to get utilities restored.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:19 pm
by Iceman
Holy Cow ... good luck Funky ...

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:10 am
by roid
this thing is gonna be all like
RARAARARAAAAAARAARAGRAARHARRGARHARHA (windy noises)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/ ... atrina.jpg

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:25 am
by Ferno
Find your way to either highway 90, 61, or the 3127, in case you haven't left yet.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:21 am
by Skyalmian
That the Superdome is concrete isn't what bothers me. Take a good look at that picture of it again. The entire bottom of the structure is nothing but entrances and support columns. It'll fill with water like the rest of the city will.

This post sums it up best:
If the worst happens - and at this point it seems implausible that it won't - the bottom 2 stories will fill with water. Dirty nasty foul water full of chemicals and raw sewerage. Further the bathroom facilities are only expected to function for the first day.

So in rough terms, 40,000+ people will be trapped in a building with no plumbing, little light and no air conditioning. The temps after the storm rolls thru will probably be in the low 90s. Considerably hotter in the building.

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:01 am
by Sirian
The SuperDome is on a plot of land above sea level. It may flood a little but it won't drown. The French Quarter may in serious danger, though.