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Marvin

Make a demo next time you try,would love to watch! When I make it deathless, I will post whole run on youtube. Meanwhile I got new run on level 27. Above all expectations. I knew I can do theoretically better than current 2:40, but my Boss fight there was so good, that even when I was 5 sec ahead ...

Marvin

I have a route for insane-max full game. Yesterday 3 deaths, ingame time 2h47min. Making it deathless will be really hard, there is always some unexpected deadly roaming happening or you simply make a mistake during such a long run. But I will keep trying!

Marvin

Thanks! I think now it is time to move on and practice for the ultimate descent challenge!

Marvin

Ok, I moved to L13. More or less same route, but I changed a bit fighting tactics in some places. I managed improve from 5:24 to 5:11, then ridiculous series of events happened (during whole week). I have finished it 5 times under 5:10 (1x 5:07, 3x 5:06, 1x 5:05), but in all cases one baby spider ...

Marvin

Thanks. What is triggering me more is first floor. I was 5sec faster entering blue door quite often (best tries were 10, but that is very rare). After that it is pure lottery. All parts can be done better, but having perfect RNG everywhere is close to impossible. In this case it was overally very ...

Marvin

Ok, let's go to the hell. Level 19. Improved by 20sec to 5:11. After that I still kept trying, because I was on better pace many and many times (best runs were 10sec faster), but the amount of luck needed to finish it off without loosing time is demoralizing. In 99,9% you die, or RNG makes you loose ...

Marvin

Level 5, 11sec improvement. Had some better runs, but never got as good ending as here. A bit lucky, since my shield was very critical. Btw the only strategical differences from old run were using vulcan for opening one door and (and that turned out to be very important) switching for concussion ...

Marvin

Back with new run! I remember, when I did L1 (1:26) a few years ago, I thought 1:25 is max for me. I tried that and it felt like even tie my 1:26 is not possible at all, haha. Took me 2 days to understand better all the details and 1:25 felt possible again. And not only that, I believed 1:24 aswell ...

Marvin

It happens rarelly, because usually it means instant death, but for example start of secret level 3. Most of the time it means loosing nearly all shield, but it is a must, because there is no other fast solution. Same with green platforms in level 26 (before blue key). But in most cases it is ...

Marvin

So, I kept going, did multiple 2:25 and 2:24 runs until I did this 2:22. The start (from beginning to hostages) was close to perfect. Best pace I ever had. Rest wasn't that perfect, but there wasn't significant time lost anywhere neither. Reaching exit was a bit sloppy, I though I missed last green ...

Marvin

To be honest, I have never tried. But twice as fast should be doable on insane. If it is on hotshot it can be done in 1 minute, long time ago I speedrunned all levels this way.

Marvin

Once I was 5 secs faster than this 2:26 run while entering reactor room. That actually felt really close to perfect. Unfortunatelly last part was total mess and I finished with same time at the end..

Marvin

Realistically any time better than this has to be all RNG. That was as close to a perfect run as I can imagine. That is because you don't speedrun it. I see many small imperfections in execution in that vid, which resulted in few lost seconds. And I actually improved it to 2:26 now:). Still not ...

Marvin

Good RNG is a must. But since the level in general is simple, it is not unimaginable to do. Besides this 2:30 run I did twice 2:31. In comparison, improving Level 3 I posted few days ago is harder.

Marvin

Level 2, 9secs improvement. I should be able to go under 2:30 if I try more, but I'm fine with this run. I don't plan playing more this year. Maybe I will come back in future:).

Marvin

It has been over 2 years since I played. I'm back with one more improvement. I rewatched my runs and realised I'm really not satisfied with Level 3 run. Old run was 3:09. After multiple improvements I got 2:49. Still not perfect, but I don't think I can go under 2:45 in any case, so I take it. https ...

Marvin

That is indeed good advice. In open space the best aiming technique is by sliding. At least for me. Basicly you are evading shots by robots and aiming at the same time. Since I was not satisfied enough and had the momentum on this level, I thought I should try it again. I did so, and improved from 3 ...

Marvin

Charging the fusion is very useful. What exactly is the problem for you? You have trouble with ship shaking? Or is it for some reason against the intuition for you? You can believe me, once you learn it, you will have a lot of fun with it:). I tried that level one more time today evening and ...

Marvin

New route for secret level 3! Not sure how much is it faster, but it has to save 10 seconds at minimum, 15 maximum I guess. Anyway final improvement from old run (my oldest run of all levels) is by 28 secs. This map would be really fun to speedrun if there was not that much roaming. In the run you ...

Marvin

When we speak about skipping cloacks, it is pretty much possible to skip cloak in level 18. But it saves just a few seconds and it makes things much harder. At the end I refused to use that skip. In level 16 even 2 of my cloaks can be skipped. It would save about 9 seconds in total. But this level ...

Marvin

It is still much harder to execute the plan than find it:). I found many strats later, because years ago I was not skilled enough and I simply thought I can't use some faster solutions. But yeah, once you stick with some route for serious time, then you can be easily blind to different and better ...

Marvin

It has been a few months ago, but I didn't postit here, so... I improved L7 again. Someone gave me a tip on youtube, how to improve my route. So obvious! You can pretty much skip the cloack in blue doors. It saves over 10 seconds. Maybe even 15. There was no serious trouble to learn it without the ...

Marvin

L4: Improved a few times during a session. Best run was 6 seconds faster than old rec. After that I stopped, I'm fine with the run. Easy level, but one green hulk is annoying, he is "always" at different place. This time in energy center which is best option in my eyes. Also you have to be carefull ...

Marvin

Kinda surprised this thread is still going. Hey, Avder. This thread was "dead" many times during last years, but I always came back after some time and pushed it closer to limits. All levels were improved multiple times. I still have two more runs I didn't post here yet (L4 and L7), so I will do so ...

Marvin

Once again I proved myself I'm still improving when I recently tried L7. That level feels so easy now. I improved my time really quickly 4 or 5 times. Best run was 16 seconds faster than old one. I take it. Going faster is hard, mainly because of boss fight. Vid soon..

Marvin

L8: This one is one of the harder levels for speedrunning. At start you can see I shoot way too many lasers to drillers protecting blue key. That is because there is also lifter exactly behind them. Blue doors area is sometimes totaly random because of roaming, but that doesn't happen that much ...

Marvin

After 3 more 2:49 runs, I did 2:44. Once I could do even 2:41, but I stupidly died in reactor room although I had 50 shields when entering. Very unnecessary. But I take it, I'm fine with 2:44. 2:40 feels as a realistic max for me. Under 40 is technicaly possible for sure, but crazy to achieve.

Marvin

Also, I played L22. I remember, when I did it in 2:53 2 years ago or so I thought I will never ever do it better. Took me some time to repractice it, but then I managed to do 6 faster runs just in one day. Best one is 2:49 (maybe 48). Anyway, I'm not satisfied at all yet..

Marvin

It is mostly about RNG now, but there is "always" possibility of improving execution and strategy. This run was 23seconds improvement which is something I would doubt before. I will not go any further here:).

But I improved one more run. 13 seconds on level 8! Feels good!

Marvin

L1:

1 second improvement:). I can imagine doing 1:25 if everything goes perfectly, but nothing better. So I'm fine with 1:26 for sure:).

Marvin

L25: https://youtu.be/UGEOTZf_BL0 Everything went well, I can't complain. Most important part of this level for a good time is area with supervisors. Usually one of them follows you, but for a good time you need them all to stay together. In this case it worked great. Theoreticaly they can be all in ...

Marvin

Thank you. Yeah, haha, really messy and lucky. But on the other hand if you saw how unlucky ended some other tries at the very end with same/very similar estimated time.. Jesus, some felt really unbeliavable in a bad way, so I guess this run was deserved:). About L25: I will post run soon. I ...

Marvin

I finaly uploaded that run: https://youtu.be/lQTnN2Odz2E It is interesting how some really good runs end up as a total fail due to bad RNG or unexpected mistake and some runs that should end up as a clear fail are somehow succesfull runs. This run is the second case. First lucky situation is facing ...

Marvin

It depends on difficulty. I speedruned it in any % category only on trainee and did it in 1minute and 17secs. But I also used intentional deaths to make it faster.

Marvin

Done in 3:38. I will post the run and description soon.

Marvin

I ofc knew about this route all the time, but wasn't good (or trained) enough to speedrun it with this way. It felt way too random and lucky. Time 3:47 (and even slightly better) is actually reachable even with that slower route. With this faster route something like 3:30 is possible. Those drones ...

Marvin

Marvin

Improved to 3:47. Managed to do it with that new route for the first time. Still not satisfied, I lost like 10 second in last part. But I'm getting more consistent with it (anyway a lot of luck is still needed because of very random behavior by nearly all robots in the level). I died a few times in ...

Marvin

It is about a year ago since I played last time, but last few days I was messing with one level - L11. Obviously it is very hard level, but I realised it can be done so much faster than my already solid 4:16. I improved my execution so much. Did it in 3:57 and then 3:56, still with room for some ...

Marvin

I honestly don't really remember, because it is not recent run and I made it very quickly. But I believe I was so experienced with all levels, that most of it was surely planned. Run on hotshot took me for some reason more time. Probably because I was playing it way to fast and didn't care about any ...

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