Kids are amazing

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:31 am

As I am doing laundry this Sunday morning I run out of coat hangers and have to go upstairs to get some more. I told my daughter, who was quietly playing with her toys that I needed to get some more hangers and I would be right back down. Noooooooooooooo Daddy she said. I help, I help.

So the two of us went and got the hangers. It is amazing to watch things through the eyes of a two year old. She didnâ??t want to be left alone and I understand that. But whatâ??s more amazing to me is the joy she exhibited in just helping me. The smile on her face was great.

That was an awesome way to begin a Sunday.

Flabby Chick · Post by **Flabby Chick** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:43 am

LOL, we're going through that stage as well with our youngest. (1 and half)

I was laying the law down the other evening with my 11 year old daughter (Enam) who came home with eyeliner on (call me victorian, i don't care) anyway in the midst of my ever so serious speech, which had been meticulously prepared its seriousness. The baby nudged her way between us and started wagging her finger and shouting admonishments at Enam also. Needless to say we all burst out laughing, and my point was lost to the wind. Kids!!!!

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:16 am

That's funny Flabby. Isabela does that with our cats. It's almost gotten to the point where we don't have to scold them for doing something we don't want them to do, because she will do it for us. An unexpected benefit of having a child. She keeps the animals in line

llClutchll · Post by **llClutchll** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:25 am

Mine is 14... She'd rather chew her own arm off rather than do anything with her parents

HaAGen DaZS · Post by **HaAGen DaZS** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:40 am

i like to eat babys. mmm babeh!

IN MA BELLEH!

roid · Post by **roid** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:42 am

Dedman wrote:That's funny Flabby. Isabela does that with our cats. It's almost gotten to the point where we don't have to scold them for doing something we don't want them to do, because she will do it for us. An unexpected benefit of having a child. She keeps the animals in line

i'd be worried if i saw my kids were learning to do that.
(been reading a lot of child psych)

HaAGen DaZS · Post by **HaAGen DaZS** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:50 am

*knaws on roidys head*

mm brain...

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:48 am

Dedman, from the time your daughter turns 12 to about 17, prepare yourself for the Twilite Zone. Mines just about 18 and well...what a relief. We are now back To hugs and I love you's as we depart on our seperate days agendas.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:30 pm

How is it possible to run out of hangers?? The things breed like flies! I swear - if you want more hangers, just throw 2 of 'em into an empty closet and close the door. Some time later, when you open the door, the closet will be full to overflowing with the little bastages!

I have to throw out about 20 or so hangers every year - and I have no idea why - because I don't have any less clothes...

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:59 pm

roid wrote:i'd be worried if i saw my kids were learning to do that. (been reading a lot of child psych)

Why is that? It is perfectly natural for kids that age to mimic their parents. This is one reason why we have had to clean up our language. Now, maybe you understood what I said to mean she is physically repremanding the cats. That isn't the case. We don't hit our animals. What she is doing is telling them "No, no. No scratching". That kind of thing.

Mobius wrote:How is it possible to run out of hangers??

We had all our hangers spayd and neutered

TheCops · Post by **TheCops** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:30 pm

hah dedman.
youngins are so cool. they can snap you the ★■◆● out of cynicism.

HaAGen DaZS · Post by **HaAGen DaZS** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:20 pm

or bring you to live with insomnia and abusive alcoholism.

yaaaaaas

JMEaT · Post by **JMEaT** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:42 pm

Send some hangers my way!

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:49 am

JMEaT wrote:Send some hangers my way!

Male or female?

JMEaT · Post by **JMEaT** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:56 am

woodchip wrote:
JMEaT wrote:Send some hangers my way!
Male or female?

Heh!!1 .. ... ..

[spoiler]female[/spoiler]

Lobber · Post by **Lobber** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:16 am

Most hangars are female. The only male ones are usually found in Hotels, with those upright stubs that slide into the racks that you can't use at home because only hotels have them. Everyone knows that.

[spoiler]Mobius' hangars must be lesbians[/spoiler]

roid · Post by **roid** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:25 am

Dedman wrote:
roid wrote:i'd be worried if i saw my kids were learning to do that. (been reading a lot of child psych)
Why is that? It is perfectly natural for kids that age to mimic their parents. This is one reason why we have had to clean up our language. Now, maybe you understood what I said to mean she is physically repremanding the cats. That isn't the case. We don't hit our animals. What she is doing is telling them "No, no. No scratching". That kind of thing.

i didn't want to say it initially, coz i'm not accusing, but i'm glad you asked for claification coz i'd just like to bounce this idea off someone. i've been reading stuff about how kids end up treating others as they themselves are treated - for reasons that we may find surprising.

it generally takes the form of the person taking out the pain they have in the past felt, on someone smaller and more vulnerable than themselves. it was the first thing i thought of when you mentioned the cat.

this is not the situation, i was just entertaining in my own mind the possability of a fictional abusive situation that may run like this: a child punishing a cat, because it makes her feel powerful - because she sees how it makes her daddy feel powerful when he punishes her in a similar manner, so she is perpetuating the cycle, passing on her own pain to someone smaller than herself. it's hardly an issue with a cat, but if that were another kid, perhaps a younger one. i'd be alarmed. (this is a fictional situation)

it's basically theorys learned from child abuse, but applied to normal children's development. blurring the line of what we culturally consider to be "abuse", i find it facinating personally. but i'm a hippy.
http://eqi.org/2brits.htm <- this particular page has some examples and theorys of interesting parent-child cycles. the whole website's rather interesting.

i don't think this is what's going on, i'm not sure i can see anything wrong with a kid shaking his finger saying "No, no. No scratching" to a cat. it was just on my mind when you posted that, i wanted an excuse to link the site. i'm just musing in my own mind, blowing something outof proportion in my own mind to see if it can still make sense.
i'd rather you payed no mind, than took it as an accusation against your parenting skills.

again, even saying this makes me feel uncomfortable. i need to make sure you don't think i'm accusing you of anything.

Flabby Chick · Post by **Flabby Chick** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:44 am

Roid, kids are in that power struggle naturally. Leanna is at day school from 7 till 4, and i know the hierarchic battles that go on with her peers. The cat example is just the same (as well as dad). Plus she also copies, copies, copies.

....it's a terribly trite thing to say, but just wait till you have kids.!

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:47 am

roid wrote:i'd rather you payed no mind, than took it as an accusation against your parenting skills.

No worries, I did not take it as such. I figured you were taking the direction you have, and I agree with you. I think the evidence is fairly clear about kids passing on violence they have learned in the home.

And as far as parenting skills, I try my best to not take offence. This is my first child and she is not quite 2. So my "parenting skills" are a work in progress. I learn something new everyday. As I tell Mrs Dedman, we are her first parents, and she is our first child. We are all learning together.

roid wrote:again, even saying this makes me feel uncomfortable. i need to make sure you don't think i'm accusing you of anything.

I didn't think you were.