snopes: there is no such thing as Snuff Films

roid · Post by **roid** » Fri May 13, 2005 7:15 am

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/snuff.htm

i never knew that.

you?

well now you do

Flabby Chick · Post by **Flabby Chick** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:22 am

I didn't read the snopes thing (bored me)to see if they mentioned it but those arseholes that murdered kidnapped westerners in Iraq taped themselves doing it. Dosn't count?

roid · Post by **roid** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:34 am

i didn't read too much into it either (was way too long).

no those don't count as snuff coz they are political, and made for a wide audience.
snuff is (or isn't, really

) sold as a wanted item, to individuals, like porn i suppose.

Vertigo 99 · Post by **Vertigo 99** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:21 am

Yeah, I read the whole thing :

Snuff is, by definition, a video in which someone is sacrificed and is made to be sold for distribution. That has never happened; the CLOSEST thing that has ever happened are serial killer video's in which victims are tortured and/or raped, but they have, until now, never actually been killed on camera

Lothar · Post by **Lothar** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:30 am

Looks like they basically just define it away...

They claim a snuff film is a film of a real killing made for entertainment purposes.

If that's the way you define "snuff film", then it's pretty likely the things don't exist in the West, at least not for circulation. It seems like the snopes definition is motivated specifically to counter people's perceptions that there might be an industry out there devoted to videotapes of murders.

I still think some of the Mujahadeen videos would qualify -- they're videos of murders made in order to entertain the sick beliefs of those who make them. They're *also* made as propaganda, and which motivation is the "real" one is hard to say.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:32 pm

Lothar wrote:They claim a snuff film is a film of a real killing made for entertainment purposes.

So the latest CA news flick of the cops killing the armed thug yesterday can be labled a snuff film as we all know todays news is based soley on its entertainment ratings.