Ahh! A Liberal!

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:22 pm

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DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:16 pm

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:19 pm

I still consider myself a pseudo-conservative, but sheesh... that's taking it a bit too far.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:45 pm

you gotta be fscking kidding me...

what a bad joke.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:31 pm

Ferno wrote:you gotta be fscking kidding me...

what a bad joke.

x2

Thats just....sad

Flabby Chick · Post by **Flabby Chick** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:37 pm

You guys need to remember you're all on the same side.

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:13 pm

Flabby Chick wrote:You guys need to remember you're all on the same side.

You seem to forget Flabby that America didn't invent the "us vs. them" mentality, but it is a national obsession to try and perfect it.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:55 pm

FC: I recognize that both dems and reps are working for the same company.

Also, the 'us vs. them' mentality goes back thousands of years. like the *cough* crusades for example.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:05 pm

We have liberals and republicans in New Zealand too - but they aren't so extreme as in the USA. The Labour Party (in Government) is a Centre-Left party, while the opposition is Centre-Right.

There's not an awful lot between the two parties really. Oh, except for the tax-and-spend-like-crazy policy and the social engineering of Labour, compared to the tax-less and spend-a-little-bit-less National Party.

It seems odd to me that the dems and reps in the USA should diverge so strongly, because we all know that all forms of extremism is misguided. Therefore, correct policies will lie somewhere between the extremes - and I guess this is what the US parliamentary system is supposed to resolve. But from the outside looking in, it seems like a lot of extreme policies get through the system, without being diluted much by the opposite side.

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:04 pm

Ferno: or the Peloponnesian War...

Gooberman · Post by **Gooberman** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:05 pm

I think the average American is more center of the rode then we probably appear from the outside. I think its just the media, (Michael Moore, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage), that make us seem so extreamly polarized. They get ratings by rambling like lunatics.

Middle of the rode guy is pretty boring to listen too. Hearing Michael Savage say that liberalism is a mental disease, well, thats entertainment.

I even think your average American politician is middle of the road. They just don't get the same TV spots as someone like Kennedy who says that Iraq is Bush's Vietnam.

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:44 pm

I think you are spot on Goob.

roid · Post by **roid** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:59 am

did i ever post about that
"It's Just a Plant"
kids book about cannabis?

www.justaplant.com

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:42 am

Gooberman wrote:I think the average American is more center of the road then we probably appear from the outside....
I even think your average American politician is middle of the road....

I agree. The average American is probably fairly well balanced. But that doesn't mean most Americans are balanced.

Books like the one above (and the one roid just gave the link to) just serve to show how extreme people can often be.

Back during my high school and early college years, I thought I was balanced. But now I look back, and see how extreme my opinions were in some areas, mostly because of my child-like blind acceptance of things said by the family and church I grew up in.

I guess one way I tend to measure my balance is by reactions from peers I talk with - the Democrats usually say I'm too conservative, and the Republicans usually accuse me of being too liberal.

But back on topic - even if a parent is ultra-concerned about some kind of "liberal influence", what's with the political caricatures on the cover?

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:06 pm

I don't know foil, but I find this book to be extremely manipulative.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:49 pm

If this was "Help mom! There is a Conservative under my bed!" you all would be laughing.

Hypocrites.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:16 pm

Top Wop wrote:If this was "Help mom! There is a Conservative under my bed!" you all would be laughing.

Actually, I'd just point out that it's ridiculous partisan propaganda, just like the other one.

SilverFJ · Post by **SilverFJ** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:59 pm

That's because conservatives typically deserve to be ridiculed.

(jk)

bitches.

Iceman · Post by **Iceman** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:26 pm

Yes they do, and so do Liberals.

Biutch

Iceman · Post by **Iceman** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:27 pm

Top Wop wrote:If this was "Help mom! There is a Conservative under my bed!" you all would be laughing.

Hypocrites.

You are right ... I would. I laughed at it as it is also. I thought it was funny as hell.

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:19 pm

SilverFJ wrote:That's because conservatives typically deserve to be ridiculed.

(jk)

bitches.

LOL

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:44 pm

Foil wrote:Actually, I'd just point out that it's ridiculous partisan propaganda, just like the other one.

It didnt seem like that while reading this thread.

roid · Post by **roid** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:15 pm

Foil wrote:Books like the one above (and the one roid just gave the link to) just serve to show how extreme people can often be.

actually i'm pretty sure the "It's Just a Plant" book is quite accurate. i think it's a good idea and will provide a good and accurate education to young kids about cannabis (incl why they shouldn't use it until they are older). it's not a joke or a stunt just take a look at the first few pages (click the page to progress) and try to find fault with it. i can't.

this "Liberals under the Bed" book however just seems like a stupid stunt. i doubt it's got anything but hate in it.