The last MMORPG you'll ever play

Valin Halcyon · Post by **Valin Halcyon** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:06 am

After playing EVE for awhile...you eventually forget that it is an RPG type of game.

Edward · Post by **Edward** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:20 am

Well Iv been playing awhile and am confident at my ability of using the in space interface getting frome point a to be warping jumping docking mining and combat. I need to learn about upgrading skills and my ship as well. Could you show me some documents on this or help me in game?

[]V[]essenjah · Post by **[]V[]essenjah** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:33 pm

I'd rather see a new and better Dues Ex.

Vertigo 99 · Post by **Vertigo 99** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:08 pm

i bet you would also rather see a new descent 4, but that doesn't mean that either is going to happen.

maybe you should move on.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:02 pm

I'm waiting for my character to skill up so I can buy a freak'n frigate. Anyone want to buy my old entry level scow?

TigerRaptor · Post by **TigerRaptor** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:57 pm

I don't have time for games right now. But I'll look at it any way.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:11 pm

TigerRaptorFX wrote:I don't have time for games right now. But I'll look at it any way.

Don't bother. The frigate doesn't look much better

Valin Halcyon · Post by **Valin Halcyon** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:32 pm

Woodchip..you never did tell me what your EVE char's name was.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:23 am

ack!

20 bucks a month?

Edward · Post by **Edward** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:30 am

No it is not 20$ a month. That is the initial payment!

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:13 am

Valin Halcyon wrote:Woodchip..you never did tell me what your EVE char's name was.

Lrrp and I'm playing as a Minmatar (cause the chick looked hot on the start up screen

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Phoenix Red · Post by **Phoenix Red** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:04 pm

PVP details please. Specifically:

How big a factor is skill in engagements, particularly small group. Does high skill give you a large advantage over casual players? Do small groups of excellent players usually beat larger groups of casual players?

How does the friendly interaction work in group PVP? Are there support ships? Can you in any way directly benefit your allies in combat? How vital is teamwork?

What are your combat options? I'm aware it will depend on what you've stocked your ship with, but what is the variety like? Are there different weapon types, perhaps that interact differently with different sorts of armour? Are there temporary effects that inhibit or enchance combat performance? Is it possible to remove them?

How is terrain usage? Do you find yourself near space debris, planets etc that you can use tactically? I'm aware this is a subtle and situational question but if it arises I would like to know.

What is your overall estimation of the complexity of PVP? It sounds very linear.

Valin Halcyon · Post by **Valin Halcyon** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:28 pm

PvP is very dynamic. Even PvE requires strong teamwork.

There are modules even now that give passive bonuses to your teammates but they require that one of the members of your fleet is in a dedicated gang support ship.

There are logicstics cruisers designed to operate as field medics.

You can't really use the enviroment yet as a tactical use..but that's actually on the Dev's plate right now as they are working on nebulae etc that can cause positive or negative things to your ship.

As far as skills, high skilled players are just more versitile. Lower skilled players can specialize in a certain area of combat, and be just as good as Mr. I'vebeenheresincebeta. I think someone said on the forums once that a new player that wanted to specialize in frigate operations could be in Tech 2 cruisers with top of the line gear in under 3 months...which is very fast in this game.

I've been playing for almost 2 years now, and can fly a lot of ships, but I'm weak in certain areas, like Electronic Warfare. My gunnery skills allow me to use top end battleship guns and some of the best ships in the game atm..but I can fly and fight in a LOT of them. But I can still only use one at a time. If I were to be caught by a Deimos (Heavy Assault Cruiser) in a Tristan (Frigate a new player could be flying in less than 3 days..but still useful), I'd probably lose my ship. To me, that's ok, as that ship didn't cost me much. To a new player..it might be a bit much..so while you're training skills, you work on methods for earning isk to support your PvP habits.

Everything in EVE has a balancing factor. You can't do anything without expending something else. if you become a pirate, you become stuck in low security systems. If you buy big expensive ships and fly then without the skill to make them what they should be, you'll probably lose the ship...and the isk that went into it.