"Immunics"

[Skyalmian]

Immunics, or The Cure Drive, as it is called, is the teaching of others how to cure themselves of every illness, physical and spiritual, they have, from the easiest diseases, such as the Flu (which can be done in 10 minutes after knowing how), to the hardest ailments, such as Multiple Sclerosis.

It is the purifying of the [12] celestial bodies (one of them of course being the physical) of harmful and negative entities (diseases, cancer, etc.) and energies with a state of mind, done in the beginning by newbies via spoken assertions.

The Cure Drive
Immunics

Governments of the world are barking on about an impending flu pandemic, and there is no easier way to prepare you than to show you these sites and what they have. You can permanently cure the flu and be done with it, but preferably people should continue to better themselves to the fullest possible extent by clearing themselves of everything remotely negative, not just physical diseases like the flu, and in the process spread the word to others. It is as equally rewarding teaching others because of the happiness that is instilled in them, as it is curing yourself.

From "immunics.org":

Dear Mr. and Ms. Newby,

So many of you have written, pleading for this. How do I start? How do I proceed? There's so much here.

Please realize that all kinds of people need this. Some of you come in with simple diseases that have quick and easy cures, like flu,...

As a total newbie myself, I haven't made much progress, but I'm working on that.

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This is the first thing mentioned that you should do when starting this in all of the tutorials. This is from the PDF they have (many prefer to use the audio and video tutorials):

You're now going to do a series of immunic actions.

Say: I am now connecting to my own ability to control my immune system.

And actually do it. Look for an involuntary signal in your fingers. That tells you that you have done the immunic action. Getting the signal means yes. The absence of a signal means no. The kinds of signals people first experience vary with individuals.

Now, do it again.

Say: I am now connecting to my own ability to control my immune system.

Look for an involuntary signal.

During the Cure Show we usually tell people to simply keep their hands relaxed and focus on them. Some people get a finger twitch or jump, or energy or warmth and their hands. (Experienced Reiki masters often feel a warming of their hands as their signal.) A few have actually noticed one of their toes suddenly move!

Here's an example:

As a Cure Show progresses, this "signal" develops into twitching or moving of one of their fingers, and we encourage this type of signal development.

Now, do it again.

Say: I am now connecting to my own ability to control my immune system.

The signal means that you are receiving an answer/confirmation from an outside source, a "higher intelligence," telling you the action you're doing is accomplished.

Does it really matter whether the signals come from a higher intelligence, your own higher intelligence, God, your higher self, your higher bodies, your "natural Knowingness," or your immune system? At this point, at least, not really. First cure something with this, which you'll probably do by the end of this text tutorial, albeit possibly only a minor sense of discomfort, then fine-tune where you're signals are coming from.

People who have been completely paralyzed from the next neck down have gotten signals by the hair on their arms standing up. Some people use their eyes: they close their eyes, and when closed eyes feel like blinking, or twitch in the mode of a blink, that's a "yes." But if you're not paralyzed, you should focus on body sensations or movements, and train yourself to have them happen with one of your fingers, or possibly a toe.

The idea here is to work with this higher intelligence to develop a dependable signal that you feel comfortable with. After you receive your first signal, which happens for most people on the first or second time they try -- of course, that's when they're with us on a Cure Show, for you it may take a few more tries -- the absence of the signal means "no"/action not accomplished.

Some people can start out right away getting an obvious signal by hooking their fingers together, as in the picture below. For some people, their finger slips or pops off the other one. For others, the hooked fingers actually move apart.

Some people test by simply placing their fingers together; when the fingers repel each other, that's "yes." When they seem to bind closer together, or lock, that's "no."

Again, your basic statement:

I am now connecting to my own ability to control my immune system.

Is there any difference in you?

Now whether you have, or have not connected yet, test "around" the issues/question. Ask questions like:

Am I slightly more immune now?

Do I feel any different?

That's right, you can second-guess how you actually feel by asking a higher power.

If you can't connect...

Well, first of all, don't worry. Neither could most of us - and we wrote the site. If you're serious about learning this and you're willing to persevere, you'll connect.

If you can't learn the testing methods that we're showing you in this basic tutorial, but have another testing method that you're already skilled at, get a password and get started. These basic skills will come later.

If you've tried a bunch of times and are not getting a signal, that may be because you are "switched." Here's a link to a lesson about "physical unswitching". Another way to unswitch is to simply stop trying to do immunics, get away from the computer, take a walk in the forest or through a pleasant neighborhood, and then come back and try again. If you can remember any of the instructions above, you can try during your walk!

Even if you don't experience that you're getting a signal, it's now time to try some of the immunic actions in the next lesson.

If you haven't started getting answers yet, this may be the place where you break through. Sometimes people don't start getting answers until they're in the middle of doing these opening immunic removal actions. You can hear this on the Cure Show -- it happens that way all the time there.

Now test;

All my bodies are free of pathology.

If you don't get yes at first:

I'm removing all pathologies from all of my bodies,

till you test yes on,

All my bodies are free of pathology.

Next;

All my bodies are free of immune dysfunction.

If you don't get yes:

I'm removing all immune dysfunctions from all my bodies,

till you test yes on,

All my bodies are free of immune dysfunction."

You just learned the basic removal skill.

Now;

All my bodies are at full function.

If you don't get yes:

I'm bringing all my bodies to full function,

till you test yes on,

All my bodies are at full function.

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Here is some advice I have taken strong note of at the Yahoo Group:

Are you doing removals or hocus pocus?

Test that question for yourself. The other day I was talking to one of our immunics buddies who's been suffering with cancer. As I listened to her go through her bodies one by one to remove it, I picked up in her voice and her words that it just wasn't real to her that she was removing anything. It sounded more like she was doing affirmations, hoping that her words would somehow magically turn out to be true.

She wasn't removing -- or if she was, she wouldn't have known it, because when she said, "I'm removing all cancer from my emotional (etc.) body," she wasn't testing to see whether the statement was true -- it was more like she was insisting that her words somehow magically do the undoable. To her, actual removal was a virtual reality. And she's one of most wonderful, committed, loving immuners.

This isn't the first time I've heard that, and I did it myself in the beginning. But believe me, we didn't cure all these 20,155 things by doing affirmations. Now that our buddy knows what she's testing, she has a chance. So the question is, are you removing or aren't you? That's why we test the statements we make. Don't just say them, OK? Actually do them. It's the difference between reality or hope, life or death, no kidding.

One response to the message above:

Great post. HUGELY important.

After reading it, I wondered to myself if it would be a good idea (at times) to do removals without making the statements. Or at least without making them out loud. And I got a yes.

I think that doing that would cultivate/exercise one's ability to actually DO removals. Rather than merely making the statements, thinking that's all there was to it.

I compiled this list together:

Test:
- I am in a calm, clear space...

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Test:
- Am I leading with my Celestral body?
- I am leading with my Celestral body.

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Test:
- All my bodies are in the right order.
- I am leading with my higher bodies.

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Test:
#1 - I'm connected to my ability to control my immune system.
(Connect till you get yes.)

#2 - All my bodies are free of pathology.
(Remove pathologies till you test yes.)

#3 - All my bodies are free of immune dysfunction.
(Remove IDs till you test yes.)

#4 - All my bodies are at full function.
(Bring up to full function till you get yes.)

#5 - Continuous Cleansing
#6 - Body-by-body removal of whatever you're curing and its precursors.

Test:
- How many clearable defeats do I have?

Get a number:
http://www.immunics.org/colleague/how_to/howmany.htm

Test:
- I'm removing all defeats from all my bodies.

Test:
- Do I have any (name of pathology or whatever you want to remove) in my (_______) body?
- All my bodies are free of (whatever you were removing).

That should be enough for an introduction.

I'm not going to argue at all with the nasties that will inevitably crop up, as that would be a waste of both time and energy. Those that will do this, will do this, and those that will not, will not. No one has anything to lose in trying, but everything to gain from it.

"I'm not going to argue at all with the nasties that will inevitably crop up, as that would be a waste of both time and energy."
Yeah. I'll stick to that, too... Not worth the time arguing with people like the one below who hilariously thinks he'll live to be 1,000 and wishes for the deaths of 2 billion people for "population control".

[Mobius]

Too stupid.

It'll result in millions of deaths when people don't seek actual medical treatment.

Might as well get into Homeopathy. LOL.

[WarAdvocat]

Actually, Mobius, while I'm utterly skeptical of the whole immunics malarkey (Sounds like self-hypnosis all dressed up), they are much more sensible than you give them credit for.

See, Unlike you, I took the time to visit the site and read up on what they claim: They strongly recommend that you continue under the care of a doctor regardless of your success, as the doctor is the best judge as to whether you need to be under medical care.

So at worst, if everyone follows the programs, some doctors will lose patients to wellness. Not death.

Mobitrolling @ its finest

[roid]

interesting stuff for sure.

[Lobber]

That's an exercise for self hypnosis, I know, because a psychologist taught me when I was young how to do self hypnosis, and how to get a "response" to a question you ask yourself. Telling yourself that your immune system is stronger will not make it so. While it may be that you can get some physical reaction due to mental self concentration, I flee from the notion that somehow you are invoking a "higher power." Since genuine Angelic Sons of God do not perform miracles in this day and age, that only leaves one other kind of spirit that would respond to your requests for help. And believe you me, you don't want anything to do with them.

[Genghis]

See, Unlike you, I took the time to visit the site and read up on what they claim: They strongly recommend that you continue under the care of a doctor regardless of your success, as the doctor is the best judge as to whether you need to be under medical care.

That recommendation for doctor care is likely there to limit lawsuits.

I, too, looked over their site. But I kept hitting links that required I pay them. So I guess someone is making money off this.

[roid]

yet we can't deny that many of the body's systems, including the immune system, are influenced by our mental state. and spiritual masters oft experiment with trying to gain better control over these connections.

i'd say what this website is saying is absolutely possible.

In the past few months i've sometimes come across writings by people who believe that we may even have the ability to recognise and even manipulate our own DNA. As many tribal cultures over the world have noticed in their spiritual inner quests and journeys archetypal symbols called the "Twin Intertwined Snakes". what we scientifically know today as the structure of DNA.

[Skyalmian]

I flee from the notion that somehow you are invoking a "higher power." Since genuine Angelic Sons of God do not perform miracles in this day and age, that only leaves one other kind of spirit that would respond to your requests for help. And believe you me, you don't want anything to do with them.

I thought the same at first. One thing irked me about it when I came across it -- that it calls itself a "yoga / yogic". If anyone here doesn't know it already, yoga is deadly for a reason unknown to most but not all, as is tantra. Nearly everyone who does either of them gets sick.

Only going through all of the messages in the first few pages of the Yahoo Group did I start to change my mind on it. What the people are doing by doing this and spreading it connects them to others (as they themselves have mentioned), which is good. Separateness is the religion of the false god.

If demons were actually benefiting / sucking the life out of those that do this, the people would become sicker, not better, less energetic, not more. That's the other reason I think it's safe. As for the entity that is answering, my only guess would be the person's subconscious, since that is thing that does unconscious involuntary muscle movements. If this stuff is self-hypnosis, then the subconscious as the responder is even more likely. The command format they use is what a hypnotist would use...

I, too, looked over their site. But I kept hitting links that required I pay them. So I guess someone is making money off this.

I guess they need the money for their shows. But it's all free, even the colleague stuff. They let you right in without paying but not without a "don't be cold" warning first.

"This is a separate password from the Cure Drive Yahoo group. We require at least a minimum monthly donation for use of the lessons because we pay our expenses on a monthly basis. But, if there is a valid reason you are unable to, there is also a link on this page to get your monthly password without donating."

Please note: No donation is required to use the basic immunics tutorials, which everyone has to start with, whether they have a password or not.

If you think you may need this without donating, then please read the following. Some of our Colleagues have good reasons not to donate.

Notes on special situations:

* If you can afford to donate, but live in a place such as India where it may be logistically impossible to do so, please use the skills without donating.

* If you donate all your extra earnings to the cause you work for, so that you have just enough to live on, and have no financial reserves, you should take this without donating.

You should not get a password without donating, because we don't want to give it to you that way, if:

* You are simply curious.

* You have a philosophical viewpoint that includes a belief that all ministries, churches, and other spiritual endeavors should never require payment for any of their services. Some people feel this way. A year or so ago one of their parishioners came up with a bright idea: the Church of England should do weddings for free. The church responded flatly by saying they'd go bankrupt if they did.

But if donating is stressful for you, even if only emotionally, you should not donate.

[Iceman]

To quote P.T. Barnum ... "A fool and his money are soon parted and I am here to help him part with it."

[Top Wop]

If demons were actually benefiting / sucking the life out of those that do this, the people would become sicker, not better, less energetic, not more.

Are you sure about that?

This stuff sounds like it came out from Scientology. BS.

[Lobber]

If demons were actually benefiting / sucking the life out of those that do this, the people would become sicker, not better, less energetic, not more.

Are you sure about that?

This stuff sounds like it came out from Scientology. BS.

Indeed, why do you assume that demons always act with the M.O. of always doing evil? Isn't it possible that the best liars tell the truth most of the time, but insert one small sneaky lie to fool everyone? Isn't it possible that they would act in a way designed to fool and confuse humans? After all, they are extremely intelligent and very experienced in dealing with humans for the last 6000 years.

[Lobber]

I did further research on this subject, and came up with the following results:

Previous studies indicated that stress and emotional states affect the body's immune responses and vital functoins. Many of these states are responsible for many different human ailments. Because high stress plays such an important role in the mind-body link, a new name to the branch of medical research that investigates this mechanism has been named: "psychoneuroimmunology."

Dr. George F. Solomon of the University of California is quoted as saying: "Mind and body are inseparable. The brain influences all sorts of physiological processes that were once thought not to be centrally regulated."

So evidently any doctor that can help his patients relax is serving their best interests. There are many ways to relax from a conscious decision. Some employ electrical equipment to enable biofeedback.

This immunics is nothing more than a version of "Autogenic Training," developed by Johannes Heinrich Schultz, who in 1932 wrote a book about his theory, explaining that it takes its name from the Greek "autos," (Self) and "genesis," (birth or origin). Autogenic training therefore means a training originating or born of oneself.

Autogenic training is divided into two halves: a lower and an upper stage. The lower stage has six exercises or procedures that are progressively learned and done for a couple of minutes several times a day. Each exercise includes a brief phrase wherein a patient is asked to concentrate as intensely as possible while mentally repeating a phrase while performing the exercise. Immunics simply replaces the repeated inner mental thought with a voiced thought, which should actually amplify the effect since you're both speaking the words, and hearing them simultaneously.

You can actually gain control over your bodily functions this way. Everything from controlling a flush in the skin to controlling your heartbeat is possible. As far as reducing stress to aid the immune system, immunics does work. However, that does not mean that you will suddenly and magically be able to reverse a disease of any kind simply by saying that you can.

This is what we call the placebo effect. One German doctor explained it this way: â??Over half of all modern diseases are of psychosomatic origin, which means they are open to response from autosuggestive treatment. Some doctors feel that this even includes certain aspects of cancer. People who live in constant fear of cancer develop it more often than do others. . . . People who strongly believe in the effectiveness of certain medicines tend to get better.â?

[will_kill]

Seems based on a very good philosphy but twisted by a salesperson....and you can tell your body to have a stronger immune system, but you have to make it fact to the sub-conscious mind.

[Skyalmian]

Why do you assume that demons always act with the M.O. of always doing evil? Isn't it possible that the best liars tell the truth most of the time, but insert one small sneaky lie to fool everyone? Isn't it possible that they would act in a way designed to fool and confuse humans? After all, they are extremely intelligent and very experienced in dealing with humans for the last 6000 years.

Demons preach religions, hatred, control, sickness, death, illness, and all other forms of negativity and control. If you cannot understand that, then you don't know the true nature of creatures with hatred and evil. As far as I see they are not benefitting from Immunics since the responder is more than likely not them due to the format of the course, people aren't becoming ill from it, and people are not separating from the oneness of all things, but coming together because of it, and in that process spreading love to others. All of those demons would not support or do in the slightest, but detest it and demonize it to make it feared and hated, much like most people are doing right now to it. Ignorance and arrogance (they go together), conformism, fear, egotism, self-importance, specialness and cult of the "chosen one", self-centeredness, and self-righteousness are all their best weapons.

"insert one small sneaky lie to fool everyone"
Like running, yoga, tantra, and most white foods...