The cookie jar expands ...

index_html · Post by **index_html** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:23 pm

Bet it's not the last hand we find with Saddam's crumbs on it:

MARCH 11--A former Democratic congressional aide was arrested today on charges that she worked as an Iraqi spy. Susan Lindauer, 41, has been charged with conspiring to work with the Iraqi Intelligence Service and engaging in prohibited financial transactions with Saddam Hussein's government, according to the below indictment unsealed today by federal prosecutors in New York. Lindauer, arrested this morning at her Maryland home, allegedly met with Iraqi agents during several visits to the country's U.N. mission, where she "accepted various payments" in return "for services provided to the IIS in the course of her ongoing intelligence relationship with them." Lindauer, who also allegedly traveled to Iraq in early-2002 to meet with IIS agents, has previously worked as a press spokesperson for several elected officials, including former Senator Carol Moseley-Braun and congressmen Ron Wyden and Peter DeFazio.

The indictiment is published as well: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0311041lind1.html

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:37 pm

Scumbags the lot of them!
It's no wonder Saddam thought he could bluff his way out of trouble with the U.S. governemnt offering such an un-united front.

Also,
"including former Senator Carol Moseley-Braun and congressmen Ron Wyden and Peter DeFazio."

Did someone forget to put the "D" or "R" beside those names too...oh, that's right, they never forget the "R" so they must be "D's".

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:59 pm

I hope they shoot the spy ★■◆●. I don't know what committees her boss's were on, but I suspect via internal staff comp. this blue blooded broad was privy to all sorts of stuff. Just out of curiosity, do politicians have to undergo a security clearance check before they assume office?

TheCops · Post by **TheCops** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:58 pm

$10,000 dollars? that really isn't that much money. what a sell-out hack.

index_html · Post by **index_html** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:19 pm

No, it really isn't that much money. She seems to be more of your true believer, genuine turncoat types, if the allegations are true. The evidence sounds pretty convincing ...

Lindauer's work allegedly continued through last month, when she maintained contact with an FBI agent posing as a Libyan intelligence service operative who wanted to support resistance groups in postwar Iraq.

It basically sounds to me like she was nailed in a sting operation. The money is relevant, but doesn't appear to be her primary motivation (unless there's more the feds don't know about), which is even more disturbing to me.

Zuruck · Post by **Zuruck** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:26 am

it makes you wonder how many politicans have ties...Cheney with Halliburton back 10 years ago. Rumsfeld being an ambassador...you never know...that's sad

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:03 am

Well call me naive, but...
I don't equate a vice president who used to be employed by an american company to be in the same catagory as a government employee spying for, and selling info to, an enemy countrys intelligence agents!

Maybe you consider big corporations as the enemy but I think your analogy is taking the liberal demagoguery a bit too serious. You're not supposed to believe all that crap they tell you, just use it as an excuse to vote for them.

bash · Post by **bash** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:11 am

What's sad is, as Meatnik points out, this woman was apparently a pretty cheap date. What do you want to bet we get an insanity defense?

Zuruck · Post by **Zuruck** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:27 am

no Will, I think you misunderstood my point, again.

I'm not saying he DID anything, but contempt arises because of the plausibility. I think politicians have their hands in so many cookie jars once in a while they get stuck. She's not the first, and definitely not the last imo.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:33 am

I guess I'm trying to make the distinction between a good old boy network that helps friends get work and a spy selling secrets.
To me that's a much different level. I got the impression you were lumping them together.

Bold Deceiver · Post by **Bold Deceiver** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:56 am

Zuruck wrote:it makes you wonder how many politicans have ties...Cheney with Halliburton back 10 years ago. Rumsfeld being an ambassador...you never know...that's sad

Somebody just shoot me now. Please. Index? Bash? I can't take this.

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:31 pm

Great, so now we don't want politicians to be successful individuals. They should all be dirt-poor farming types without a clue. The skills and values of international business, such as negotiation, determination, and steadfastness, must not matter at all.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:22 am

Yeah, we should have uneducated dumb morons running the show so we can wind up just like the Afgans and the taliban.

Zuruck · Post by **Zuruck** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:20 am

and she is a relative of White House C of S Andrew Card ??

bash · Post by **bash** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:34 am

Yep, a second cousin. I read he was the one who alerted the feds to her activities.

Zuruck · Post by **Zuruck** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:57 am

free and clear huh bash? just like that....you dont get even a spark of interest?

Delkian · Post by **Delkian** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:31 pm

DCrazy wrote:Great, so now we don't want politicians to be successful individuals. They should all be dirt-poor farming types without a clue. The skills and values of international business, such as negotiation, determination, and steadfastness, must not matter at all.

Yep, of course it's all black and white and there are only two possible options and nothing between them.

If, and I repeat, if a former big boss (or bosses) of a large corporation (or corporations) who still has ties to that company (or companies) gets to a high position in a government and then magically things that benefit that corporation or industry start happening, possibly also benefiting the very person him/herself due to the aforementioned ties, it should make people think.

Since I don't read all that stuff about the past doings of the U.S. government on a full-day basis, I'm leaving it strongly to the 'if' level.

Just generally, if corruption occurs, a vice president can probably do a whole lot more than a congressional aide, too.

bash · Post by **bash** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:14 pm

Z, you'll have to be more clear, I don't understand what you're insinuating.