Realistic Moth

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Thu May 04, 2006 12:35 pm

Hey,

Here is a render of what I have been working on the last few weeks. It's an Eight-Spotted Forester moth. My goal is to make it as realistic as possible.

I will update this post when I make some progress

Comments are apreciated.

Current Update (Thurs May 11th, 2006)

Previous Update (Mon May 9th, 2006)
http://3dartisan.net/chris/Moth12.jpg

Previous Update (Posted Sat May 7th, 2006)
http://3dartisan.net/chris/moth9.jpg

Previous Update (Posted Thu May 04, 2006 )
http://3dartisan.net/chris/moth4.jpg

Thanks

HighOctane_Jared · Post by **HighOctane_Jared** » Thu May 04, 2006 12:43 pm

I like it quite a bit

The Thorax area (the area with the black ridges) needs some texture to it, and the wings look slightly too much like Cloth with frayed edges. Maybe make the vein-like streaks going through the wings smaller, and more defined (not quite so soft) and perhaps make the patches of color slightly more defined.

But it still looks excellent!

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Thu May 04, 2006 5:56 pm

This should be able to pass for realistic.

Try adjusting your lighting. Then adjust your color levels to match how a camera would see the same colors in that light.

You might want to look into this style of lighting...
http://67.15.36.49/team/Tutorials/fake_gi/fake_01.asp

It's a way to fake gi

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Fri May 05, 2006 9:22 am

Thanks for the comments.

Yea this is by no way a final render. I will have to do a better lighting set-up.

The thorax area kinda looks like tire rubber doesn't it?

I have to paint some textures for that area.

I also agree that it kinda looks like cloth on the wings. I struggled quite a bit to make it look kinda chalky and not like cloth. Any other suggestions in this area would be helpful.

HighOctane_Jared · Post by **HighOctane_Jared** » Fri May 05, 2006 9:57 am

I don't know what software you are using, but if it is Maya or Max (I think lightwave has it too) try using Subsurface scattering on the wings.

http://www.lamrug.org/resources/physsstips.html Maya

http://67.15.36.49/team/Tutorials/human ... n_skin.asp Max

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Fri May 05, 2006 1:47 pm

Thanks for the links. I am using both Max and Maya. I know both pretty well. I think I will try SSS on my model. I might have to render in layers cuzz i'm ruunning into memory problems when rendering so I don't know if I will be able to use SSS without a crash.

I should Have an update in a few days.

Darktalyn1 · Post by **Darktalyn1** » Fri May 05, 2006 4:00 pm

Looking good

I like the fringed edges on the wings. Now let's see an animation

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Fri May 05, 2006 5:00 pm

Have flying and land on a tiny little version of new york city, that happens to be built on a flower.

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Sat May 06, 2006 8:09 pm

Rigging this model up shouldn't be that hard. If I have time I might do a simple animation for my demo reel.

I'm experiencing memory problems while rendering. I can't get those shadows sharper without max crashing on me. Grrrrr

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Sat May 06, 2006 9:17 pm

OK I got a new update, its in my first post.

I finished modeling the legs, almost finished the modeling of the head.

Next i'm going to finish the uvs on the legs then put the fur on them.

VonVulcan · Post by **VonVulcan** » Sun May 07, 2006 5:45 am

It looks very good.

Off topic: Why do some threads wrap and others don't for me? Is it because of the size of the picture in this post?

Unix · Post by **Unix** » Sun May 07, 2006 10:09 am

Yep. Even at 1290x1024 this page doesn't wrap.

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Sun May 07, 2006 6:32 pm

sorry. I can shrink the images down if you want.

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Tue May 09, 2006 11:40 am

ok here is a new update. I added the hair to the legs and head and attached the antenna to the head.

Now I just need to finish the hair on the legs and fix the viens on the wings.

http://3dartisan.net/chris/Moth12.jpg

Neumaennl · Post by **Neumaennl** » Wed May 10, 2006 1:44 am

IMHO the hair is too long and the veins on the wings are too thick - looks very promising though

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:03 am

Yea I agree the furr is a bit too long. I fixed up the veins and made them smaller and got a better lighting setup.

Here is a new render

www.3dartisan.net/chris/Moth14.jpg

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:13 am

Here is an image showing all the differen layers.

For Some reason I can't get the ambient occlusion to work with my opacity maps

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Sat May 13, 2006 3:18 pm

that's looking really good

Cyclone · Post by **Cyclone** » Sun May 14, 2006 4:28 pm

Thanks.

Theres still a lot to do to the model to make it look more realistic but i need to start working on my next model now.