Overclocking

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:46 pm

i got a 6200 256mb agp video card a few days ago and i wanna overclock it....

normal frequencies are as follows:

clock core frequency : 385MHz
memory clock freq: 532 MHz

what is the limit to which i can clock it but still remain at a safe distance from buring my card up

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:27 pm

Overclocking varies from card to card, newbies should either not overclock at all, or push the autodetect button in the recent nvidia drivers. (Don't use the automatic overclocking, it changes the speed on the fly too much and eventually crashes the computer, use the auto detect option in manual overclocking.)

More advanced users will overclock in small incriments like 5 MHz at a time and test the card for artifacts or stability issues, if it passes step up another 5 MHz, if it shows artifacts or crashes, step back 5 MHz, test again and if it is stable there call that the limit.

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:31 pm

Im not sure Id reccomend OCing the 6200, the heatsink on it isnt all that great, and since it most likely uses turbo-cache, im not sure how happy the cross over with the system ram will be.

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:32 pm

cant seem to increase anything....

i did the detect the optimal settings, they came our to be 421mhz core and 609mhz mem.

but for some reason when i try to click ok or apply, my system freezes and i have to cut off my power and turn it back on.

i also tried it with just a 5 mhz increase on each one but still no go.

ill call em (being BFG) tomorrow to see what they say but i'm wondering what yall think.

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:35 pm

Immortal Lobster wrote:Im not sure Id reccomend OCing the 6200, the heatsink on it isnt all that great, and since it most likely uses turbo-cache, im not sure how happy the cross over with the system ram will be.

well it can be overclocked because its enabled anyway.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp ... 8124982622

plus it has a fan instead of a simple heatsink

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:48 pm

Battlebot wrote:i did the detect the optimal settings, they came our to be 421mhz core and 609mhz mem.

but for some reason when i try to click ok or apply, my system freezes and i have to cut off my power and turn it back on.

I'd suggest to stay away from that feature -- doesn't work very well. Any overclock needs to be tested for at least half an hour or more under full load (use a GPU benchmark in loop mode), the whimpy few seconds this tool uses cause unrealistic high OC values.

Battlebot wrote:i also tried it with just a 5 mhz increase on each one but still no go.

That could mean that this particular GPU chip is already maxed out.

Battlebot wrote:ill call em (being BFG) tomorrow to see what they say but i'm wondering what yall think.

I'd not recommend doing that -- officially you loose your warranty if you overclock the card even once. It's hard to prove, a good way of course is admitting it

You may have better luck by overclocking using RivaTuner -- be warned tho that RT is not a beginners tool.

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:55 pm

Grendel wrote:
Battlebot wrote:i also tried it with just a 5 mhz increase on each one but still no go.
That could mean that this particular GPU chip is already maxed out.

those settings in the screenshot are the standard clocks when my gpu isnt overclocked

edit: still same freezing deal with rivatuner

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:07 pm

The card is overclocked out of the box -- the 6200 line is normally clocked 350/500 IIRC.

In general, the 6200 are pretty low-end cards. You'd be more happy w/ a 6600 (~$85) based card..

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:09 pm

so return it?

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:10 pm

If you can.

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:13 pm

yeah a 6200 is the basic card of the 6 series. a 6600 or even a 6600GT will suit you alot better without having to OC it.

BTW: nice AceCombat4 desktop. i have that one also.

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:14 pm

6600GTs are nice, if you have the caxh, go upwards to a 7300GT, theyre also beasts of a card, 7600 if youve got more cash =P

if youve got agp....errr....6600GT lol

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:15 pm

after looking at your screen, make sure you hit that \"Fan Always On\" check box.

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:17 pm

yeah i gots agp

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:22 pm

Immortal Lobster wrote:6600GTs are nice, if you have the caxh, go upwards to a 7300GT, theyre also beasts of a card, 7600 if youve got more cash =P

if youve got agp....errr....6600GT lol

or a 7800GS, thats the fastest AGP card available on the market

and most likely to be the last AGP card to be produced.

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:49 pm

judging by his previous purchase, I was listing cards under 150USD

7600GT should be available in an AGP flavor fairly soon, I believe MSI will have the first, be on the look out for that.

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:21 pm

yeah, i guess ill just save money again....

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:19 pm

Isnt it fun

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:41 pm

ill just oc my geforce 4 lol

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:55 pm

your 6200, even at stock is faster then an OCed GF4 lol

even has better shader support =D

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:11 am

yeah, but its 108.98 dollars cheaper

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:19 am

the 6200 was that much? =

This is a BFG 6200 online, $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814143038
doesnt have the OC, but the OC isnt worth 60+ dollars

do yourself a hge favor BB, ereturn that card, complete refund, go to newegg, and buy either of these, 6800XT or the 6600, both are about in the same price range you payed for that 6200, I know bestbuy overcharges, but I think theyre going off the deep end with it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130268
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130232

the 6800XT would be a lot better then the 6600 vanilla, if you see a 6600GT in your price range, cheapest Ive seen is 143, thats better then the 6800XT, but 119USD for the XT isnt bad, aand evga's warranty is kickass enough where you can mod it, unlock it to a GT (pretty sure its unlockable) and the warranty wont be voided

Battlebot · Post by **Battlebot** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:09 am

yeah i know, ive just had bad experiences with buying stuff online so I dont really trust buying off of it anymore.

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:38 am

newegg is eggselent

never had a problem with them, for that matter never had an issue with mwave or zzf either. tigerdirect I had an issue with, that was easily resolved, and monarchs return policy sucks.

outside of that, youll be very safe with newegg, zzf and mwave. its well worth the money saved.

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:23 pm

x2 vote for newegg. i just got a XFX 68000XT 256mb GDDR3 for 142$ from them and unlocked it to a 6800GT!

it arrived 2 days early too!!

Sir Sam II · Post by **Sir Sam II** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:13 pm

Isn't the XT faster than the GT?

Immortal Lobster · Post by **Immortal Lobster** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:43 pm

No, the XT is a locked GT, hence unlockable with a vbios flash. and evga is one of the few companies where a bios flash doesnt void the waranty, hence why I listed 2 evgas

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:01 pm

Immortal Lobster wrote:No, the XT is a locked GT, hence unlockable with a vbios flash. and evga is one of the few companies where a bios flash doesnt void the waranty, hence why I listed 2 evgas

didnt take a BIOS flash for me, all i used was the new Riva Tuner with GPU Configuation abilities.

go check it out.

Riva might even beable to tweak that 6200 of yours alittle faster to match the 6600 ( non-GT Version ) i would even want to see if that 6200 has anything locked out.