America- Freedom to Fascism.

Fusion pimp · Post by **Fusion pimp** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:51 am

Looking forward to this one-

Check out the 2 trailers, the interview and the 14 minute promo.

http://freedomtofascism.com/

Shadowfury333 · Post by **Shadowfury333** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:14 pm

Very interesting. Even though it doesn't pertain to me directly, I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing were to come into Canada, particularily as the midset of a great deal of our population (not including yours truly) has a statist mindset.

Also, we do have an income tax law up here, it was instated near the end of WWI to help pay the cost, which wasn't covered by war bonds, postage stamps, and the like. Unfortunately it continues to this day (along with a dozen other taxes that take off almost, if not over, half of one's income).

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:07 pm

Are these people who dwell on the claim that income tax is illegal aiming for income tax to be \"legalized\" or for it to be abolished?

Shadowfury333 · Post by **Shadowfury333** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:13 pm

Jeff250 wrote:Are these people who dwell on the claim that income tax is illegal aiming for income tax to be "legalized" or for it to be abolished?

Abolished, it should be obvious from watching the trailers. You did watch the trailers, right?

VonVulcan · Post by **VonVulcan** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:14 pm

It is becoming more public, the knowledge that the IRS is based on fraud.

EDIT: My wife's father has been talking about this for a few years now. Great post.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:15 pm

Yeah, I watched that one on the front page.

I don't see how abolishing the U.S.'s income tax can begin to be a sensible position, unless you're going to just replace it with a different tax? I mean, we do have interest on our national debt to pay off, plus other jewels like the war in Iraq.

By the way, I went ahead and watched the other trailer. Did anyone recognize a clip in that trailer from a supposed police brutality video that was posted here on the DBB a while ago? It was the one that occurred in Florida against the African American woman who wouldn't leave her car. Anyways, the search function is FUBAR, but I recall the DBB consensus vastly approving it as appropriate police action under the circumstances. Now it's being used to insinuate that America is a fascist state.

Also, I think that the famous corallary to Godwin's Law can be unarguably applied here.

Shadowfury333 · Post by **Shadowfury333** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:24 pm

Jeff250 wrote:By the way, I went ahead and watched the other trailer. Did anyone recognize a clip in that trailer from a supposed police brutality video that was posted here on the DBB a while ago? It was the one that occurred in Florida against the African American woman who wouldn't leave her car. Anyways, the search function is FUBAR, but I recall the DBB consensus vastly approving it as appropriate police action under the circumstances. Now it's being used to insinuate that America is a fascist state.

Also, I think that the famous corallary to Godwin's Law can be unarguably applied here.

Well, that is a minor detail that I assume Fusion pimp failed to notice, but I don't see how it invalidates the whole argument.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:45 pm

It's supposed to discredit it, not invalidate it.

Fusion pimp · Post by **Fusion pimp** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:52 pm

I don't see how abolishing the U.S.'s income tax can begin to be a sensible position, unless you're going to just replace it with a different tax? I mean, we do have interest on our national debt to pay off, plus other jewels like the war in Iraq.

Jeff, May I suggest that you look up the thread I started titled-\"The real reason for national debt\" and buzz through it. It will explain how doing away with the Fed Res will do away with debt, at that point there would be no reason for an income tax. I won't get into the legality of an income tax. I will say this about income tax- The only reason I pay it is because the cost of fighting it would be 10 fold what the original tax would cost me in the first place.

As for the for the film maker using footage of legit force being used by LEO- Meh, I agree with you. Mainly because there are plenty more pieces of film that could have been used showing LEO's going too far.