Eye Candy is here!

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:11 am

While things have been quite here on the DBB front that H.O. team has been busy!

Here's some in game screen shots posted on thier forums!

http://coredecision.highoctane.biz/modu ... c&start=15

CDN_Merlin · Post by **CDN_Merlin** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:13 am

No offense but that's not eye candy. Those pics to me are horrible. Dark, not much light, the Pyro looks like crap. Now this is most likely alpha/beta so I'm sure it will change a bit before done.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:25 am

Gotta agree with Merlin here.

Can't see anything except in a few shots where you can make out bits and pieces of the ship. Maybe it's the way my vid card here is rendering those sceenies, but most of them are nearlly totally black.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:43 pm

I thought the ship or whatever it was didn't look half bad actually, and the level shots were ok once I adjusted for the gamma, it looks bad at first but it has potential once the texturing is complete. Even the best games look like crap if you strip the texturing out so you have to picture it with the texturing in place.

Compare it to the screen shots that were on the site before, and it looks a hell of a lot better then back then.

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:13 pm

The ship has potential. It looks better than a D3 ship right now and is about at the level of Into Cerberon.

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:11 am

I think the actual models look good. I agree that texturing is in need, but the models look good.

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:13 pm

It appears even better pictures have been added. However, High Octane is running low on bandwidth and the ven new pics are all broken.

The Lion · Post by **The Lion** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:45 am

The pictures will also look better once they post bigger screenshots
with a higher JPEG quality setting. But as you said, they're running
low on bandwidth...

zbriggs · Post by **zbriggs** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:22 am

CDN_Merlin wrote:No offense but that's not eye candy. Those pics to me are horrible. Dark, not much light, the Pyro looks like crap. Now this is most likely alpha/beta so I'm sure it will change a bit before done.

First off they are supposed to be dark. We already stated that this game is more like Descent 1/2 and the game was dark. Second, it's not a Pyro and never will be. The Pyro has been through it's journey and made it's way to the hall of fame next the the Doom space marine and the Quake symbol. This is a next game and honestly you haven't seen enough of the ship to make that conclusion. It's not the ship that makes the image in your mind, it's the story and things you have seen the ship go through and have personnaly piloted it through. So my suggestion is turn your brightness up a bit and look at things closer and await the new content to gain a better idea of the game.

Zach

CDN_Merlin · Post by **CDN_Merlin** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:42 am

I can understand Zach but if I was in charge of PR, I wouldn't release dark pictures with no textures to the public and then having to explain why they are dark etc. My monitor is fine with everything I view, play, etc. So I don't think I need to adjust my gamma to see the pics better. That was your job to do.

Like I said, I'm still waiting to see the better stuff.

zbriggs · Post by **zbriggs** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:46 am

CDN_Merlin wrote:I can understand Zach but if I was in charge of PR, I wouldn't release dark pictures with no textures to the public and then having to explain why they are dark etc. My monitor is fine with everything I view, play, etc. So I don't think I need to adjust my gamma to see the pics better. That was your job to do.

Like I said, I'm still waiting to see the better stuff.

If you think that they don't have textures you're mistaken. And like I said, they are designed to be dark. That is the nature of the game. If you can see the objects but its dark in the corridors then you are seeing that part of the level correctly.

zbriggs · Post by **zbriggs** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:46 am

The Lion wrote:The pictures will also look better once they post bigger screenshots
with a higher JPEG quality setting. But as you said, they're running
low on bandwidth...

This has been corrected. In the future if you see this problem please email me at zbriggs@highoctane.biz.

Thank You.

Skyalmian · Post by **Skyalmian** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:16 pm

If the game is going to be as dark as Descent 1/2, there better be a powerful headlight that doesn't run out after 10 seconds of use. I liked how Descent 3 had a long distance spotlight and a more CPU intense floodlight that lit up everything within a short distance, the option for toggling between the two being in the config pages. Even better that they didn't use any energy, but then, that's totally expected because the light, since being powered by a Fusion reactor, wouldn't ever run out, now would it?

I always used the latter headlight and laughed when the spotlight users couldn't see anything and go anywhere in a pitch black SP level I made ages ago.

Just a note, but Doom 3 was practically unplayable at default gamma during the day, and looked like crap when set to overbright to compensate. I hope Core Decision isn't like that.

Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:57 pm

Headlight? I never used a headlight in D1 or D2...

Skyalmian · Post by **Skyalmian** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:05 pm

Doesn't matter. I just skimmed the two eons-ago interviews with Suncho (they depress the hell out of me). No headlight because \"the ship lights up everything it gets near\". Depressing as well as uncool, that -- an ultra futuristic ship sent into a mine that's not equipped with a standard vehicle tool. I would never buy a car that didn't have a headlight even if all the roads had lights.

While Core Decision's SP and MP levels may have lights everywhere to allow for no black spots, custom levels won't.

I can only hope one of the higher ups changed their mind on the \"No Vehicle Light of Any Kind\" decision since Suncho said no.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:24 am

Testiculese wrote:Headlight? I never used a headlight in D1 or D2...

There were no headlights in D1.

Skyalmian · Post by **Skyalmian** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:06 pm

Duper wrote:There were no headlights in D1.

And D2's headlight was brighter than the sun.

Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:13 am

Actually, the ship should have multiple lights. front/rear and side beams.

Not like I'd use them, but you'd think they'd be there anyway...

Xamindar · Post by **Xamindar** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:07 pm

where are the screenshots? don't see any.

Aus-RED-5 · Post by **Aus-RED-5** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:08 pm

Xamindar wrote:where are the screenshots? don't see any.

http://psion.sonicwave.biz/Core_Decisio ... nshots.zip

oh and...

http://psion.sonicwave.biz/Hellfire-1.wmv

Xamindar · Post by **Xamindar** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:42 am

Oooh, I like it.

Kyouryuu · Post by **Kyouryuu** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:03 pm

Testiculese wrote:Actually, the ship should have multiple lights. front/rear and side beams.

Y'know what'd be cool? A robot enemy with lights like that blimp in Blade Runner.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:34 pm

Kyouryuu wrote: Y'know what'd be cool? A robot enemy with lights like that blimp in Blade Runner.

o_0

LOL!

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:25 pm

WOW! That's a lot of detail on that ship!

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:40 am

ok.. one thing I noticed (just because I feel like being difficult) The shadows on the ship do not move in relation to the light source as the ship rotates.

i know i know.. just wanted to point it out anyways.

The Lion · Post by **The Lion** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:45 pm

So, I guess the ship is not rotating, the camera is just moving around it...

psionik · Post by **psionik** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:09 pm

The lighting is baked

Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:34 pm

And so were you when you made the clip!