Smaug

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:50 pm

So the great socialist uprising has commenced:

\"Just days after his resignation, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is about to face more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.\"

It is curious no, that this is all happening right after the American Social....er Democrats regained the House and the Senate. I wonder if this is the Huns big chance to get back at us for winning WW2 and putting on trial all the Nazis big wigs. Oh and their chief witness?:

\"Lawyers for the plaintiffs say that one of the witnesses who will testify on their behalf is former Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, the one-time commander of all U.S. military prisons in Iraq.\"

You remember this General...the one who was in charge of the Iraq military prison system and got relieved of her command after the Abu Ghraib scandal. Now I guess paybacks are in order.
I'm sure this will play into the hands of AQ and the middle eastern press/propaganda machine 'cause while the liberals play payback, the real payback will come from people who send their innocent bomb strapped children off to kill other innocent children. People who have the religious duty to kill us infidels and force their extreme religious views upon us. I hate to say this but I suspect in the end they will win if only because they have the dedication to achieve their goal while we?...continue to blindly play politics and view each other as the enemy.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 42,00.html

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:01 pm

And I thought this was going to be about a dragon killed by a hobbit.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:09 am

Woodchip. The charges have been in the works for months if not years, they are being laid in Germany not the U.S and it has nothing to do with the U.S. elections and everything to do with international dogooders trying to tweak the nose of the worlds only super power.
Sheesh. Do you check under your bed for Commies each night too?

BTW Smaug was killed by a lake man with a bow given directions by a robin. The Hobbit just stole his treasure.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:09 am

Ford Prefect wrote:BTW Smaug was killed by a lake man with a bow given directions by a robin. The Hobbit just stole his treasure.

Oooops! Time to re-read the book again!

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:44 am

Ford Prefect wrote:BTW Smaug was killed by a lake man with a bow given directions by a robin. The Hobbit just stole his treasure.

OWNED

j/k

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:55 pm

Figured the frightwingers would get more desperate..

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:32 pm

Will Robinson wrote:
Ford Prefect wrote:BTW Smaug was killed by a lake man with a bow given directions by a robin. The Hobbit just stole his treasure.
Oooops! Time to re-read the book again!

And technically, it was a thrush, not a robin.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:20 pm

Quite right. And the only thing that Bilbo stole was the Arkenstone. The rest of the treasure was claimed after Smaug was dead.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:31 am

Ford Prefect wrote:And the only thing that Bilbo stole was the Arkenstone.

Now Now, don't forget the cup.

Richard Cranium · Post by **Richard Cranium** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:15 am

Kilarin wrote:
Ford Prefect wrote:And the only thing that Bilbo stole was the Arkenstone.
Now Now, don't forget the cup.

... and the

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:26 am

Richard Cranium wrote:
Kilarin wrote:
Ford Prefect wrote:And the only thing that Bilbo stole was the Arkenstone.
Now Now, don't forget the cup.
... and the

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

I think he found the ring in the cave/tunnels where he first met Gollum, before he went under the dragons mountain.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:28 am

Ford Prefect wrote: BTW Smaug was killed by a lake man with a bow given directions by a robin. The Hobbit just stole his treasure.

Nice try, but you could work for Nightline with those facts.

The Dragon Smaug was killed by a special arrow shot by a lakeman with a bow. And the hobbit stole nothing. In fact, he asked for one coin and I'm not sure he even took it. The dragon offered it to him assuming he was a thief.

Gun, bullets, people and arrows don't kill dragons; faulting body armor does.

(I had forgotten about the robin telling him about Smaugs missing scale.)

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:47 am

Thrush, Duper, thrush!

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:08 pm

...isn't that something that babys get????

heh. thanks! you are correct sir!

Birdseye · Post by **Birdseye** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:47 pm

Even a new low for you, woody. Mindless drivel.

Richard Cranium · Post by **Richard Cranium** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:00 pm

Will Robinson wrote:I think he found the ring in the cave/tunnels where he first met Gollum, before he went under the dragons mountain.

True but since Bilbo wasn't the rightful owner of the ring wouldn't it be considered stealing since he didn't return it?

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:33 pm

Richard Cranium wrote:
Will Robinson wrote:I think he found the ring in the cave/tunnels where he first met Gollum, before he went under the dragons mountain.
True but since Bilbo wasn't the rightful owner of the ring wouldn't it be considered stealing since he didn't return it?

Oh, yea, I guess so. I was just thinking of where he got it, I missed the thievery reference you were responding to...my bad. I was skimming again hoping to redeem myself in the world of Hobbit trivia

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:36 pm

No, not really as he found it on the ground some ways away from where it SHOULD have been. And after hearing Golem go into a tirade (?) do you really blame him for not politely offering it back??? ; ) But, thre is the fact that he is a Hobbit and their second rule of thumb is \"finds, keepers\".

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:57 pm

LOL Great job of thread hijacking all round.
Forgot about the cup. I think Smaug was dead by the time Bilbo found the Arkenstone. Smaug knew the cup was missing when Bilbo went down the second time.

Kyouryuu · Post by **Kyouryuu** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:12 pm

Best. Ethics. Thread. Ever.

dissent · Post by **dissent** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:03 am

I thought he just mis-typed \"smug\"

Richard Cranium · Post by **Richard Cranium** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:03 pm

Ford Prefect wrote:LOL Great job of thread hijacking all round.

Just doing my part.

Richard Cranium · Post by **Richard Cranium** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:05 pm

Kyouryuu wrote:Best. Ethics. Thread. Ever.

Yes, I would agree but I'm sure this has been talked about in much more depth on some of the LOTR BB sites.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:39 pm

Richard Cranium wrote:
Kyouryuu wrote:Best. Ethics. Thread. Ever.
Yes, I would agree but I'm sure this has been talked about in much more depth on some of the LOTR BB sites.

that's truly sad.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:35 am

Must be more carful how I title my threads