important survey regarding your connection speed

Do_Checkor · Post by **Do_Checkor** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:43 am

an important survey regarding your connection speed has been made here:

http://www.descentbb.com/viewtopic.php?t=2151

I'd like to ask you to contribute there since I do not want to have the complete poll going here too...

thanks in advance...

CDN_Merlin · Post by **CDN_Merlin** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:38 pm

Id' vote Cable but I'm not a member of the .com.

edit: 6Mb down, 800Kb up

Zantor · Post by **Zantor** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:58 pm

I'm not registered on the .com. I have 3Mbps ADSL.

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:07 pm

I won't go to the other place but to help your survey, I have cable.

Bettina

Sapphire Wolf · Post by **Sapphire Wolf** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:18 pm

For me? I have Verizon DSL.

Do_Checkor · Post by **Do_Checkor** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:48 pm

well ok - who is not / does not want to register there may just post in here like the people above.

actually I don't really understand why somebody wouldn't want to register on the 3-4 forums given, but hey, ok ^^

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:45 pm

Can you guys please keep your personal opinions about .com out of this thread? Just state what connection you have if you don't want to go and vote.

To address the topic: 4mps DSL.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:50 pm

1.5Mbps/256kbps

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:06 pm

8Mbps/786Kbps - cable

Note: I am currently testing my [RIP]Rockies servers at minimum 9PPS. If anyone is getting auto-kicked just after joining my server, that's most likely the issue. Just increase your PPS settings, and it'll be fine.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:24 am

my config is always set to accept 12pps from any server
not that I ever get to see it.

It would be nice if those servers also have min pps kick

6000/400kbps (advertised)

actual

Do_Checkor · Post by **Do_Checkor** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:13 am

Ferno wrote:Can you guys please keep your personal opinions about .com out of this thread?

/me looks around and can't find any opinions, shrugs and slaps Ferno with a large trout

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:16 am

BUBBALOU wrote:It would be nice if those servers also have min pps kick

That's exactly why this is being discussed! The servers who run AntiCheat do have a "min PPS kick". The reason Checkor put up this poll is that serverops need to figure out what is reasonable for min PPS, given the distribution of connection speeds. So far it looks like most people have at least DSL nowadays, so higher "min PPS" is probably reasonable.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:49 am

DSL, 3mb down, 768 up. The standard SBC stuff.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:35 pm

DSL 2 mbit down 128 kbit up...

But I should mention that I rarely play D3 anyway.

Hattrick · Post by **Hattrick** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:49 pm

wow! I love getting upgraded without knowing it!

Hattrick · Post by **Hattrick** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:53 pm

wow havent double posted in awhile.
Didn't even notice it when I originally posted LOL

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:27 pm

Wireless broadband.
3629kbps down
849kbps up

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:06 am

Kilarin wrote:Wireless broadband.
3629kbps up
849kbps down

Not the other 'way round?

[Edit: Thanks for fixing it]

MidiV · Post by **MidiV** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:07 am

Well i'm using only 256 kbit down and 128 kbit up
But i'm not frequent player anyway.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:09 am

That used to be the staple plan in New Zealand a year or two back. Sort of what you get when you have bloated monopolies that care more about the bottom line than giving their customers any real service.

The Lion · Post by **The Lion** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:38 am

8 Mbit/s (1 MB/s) down, 1 Mbit/s (125 kB/s) up crappy cable.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:02 am

Foil wrote:Not the other 'way round?

UGH! Thats what I get for trying to post when I'm running a fever. <sigh> Correction made. thanks.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:45 am

Hattrick wrote:
wow! I love getting upgraded without knowing it!

fixed

Foil wrote:That's exactly why this is being discussed! The servers who run AntiCheat do have a "min PPS kick". The reason Checkor put up this poll is that serverops need to figure out what is reasonable for min PPS, given the distribution of connection speeds. So far it looks like most people have at least DSL nowadays, so higher "min PPS" is probably reasonable.

It's a Subtle hint to activate better pps Kick standards

Hattrick · Post by **Hattrick** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:52 am

thx Bubba~

transferred that to my original post.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:13 am

BUBBALOU wrote:It's a Subtle hint to activate better pps Kick standards

Ah, gotcha.

Yes, if we could get everyone playing at higher PPS (and auto-kick those who use low PPS to make themselves harder to hit), it would really improve the game.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:37 am

A question here. The D3 community is very small as is. Do we really want to keep people out of the public servers just because they have a lousy connection? Or is it more important just to encourage people to play?

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:02 pm

Kilarin wrote:A question here. The D3 community is very small as is. Do we really want to keep people out of the public servers just because they have a lousy connection? Or is it more important just to encourage people to play?

The reason that some in the ServerOp community are carefully looking into this instead of just making arbitrary decisions, is that we don't want to alienate players who are still on dialup connections.

However, what brought this issue up in the first place is the quality of gameplay, and the fact that there are still some players who intentionally abuse PPS settings, which has also caused people to quit playing D3.

So, with the rise of higher-speed internet, we just want to know if there are any who still play on dialup. If not, we can safely start adjusting the minimum PPS settings upward. Of course, there are still plenty of servers out there who don't enforce minimum PPS, and everyone that I know in the ServerOp community is willing to make accomodations upon request.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:00 pm

Foil wrote:The reason that some in the ServerOp community are carefully looking into this instead of just making arbitrary decisions, is that we don't want to alienate players who are still on dialup connections.

Makes sense.

Do_Checkor · Post by **Do_Checkor** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:18 pm

@Kilarin: Foil is absolutely right: We don't plan to alienate people who are on modem, but we want to get rid of the fools who either set their PPS rate (by network settings in the D3 launcher) INTENTIONALLY low OR just are too lazy OR maybe just don't know about where / why to set.

I think we already lost dozens - maybe even hundrets of players because of shitty connects and a skippy / lossy / laggy gameplay. And there was nothing we could do since there was no \"min. pps setting\" until SuperSheep implemented this in his \"Anticheat Server MOD\". Now we have the chance AND there are almost no modem users left these days. So we would be some dumbass lamers if we wouldn't do it now, IMO.

DarkShadow · Post by **DarkShadow** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:20 pm

Cable

Dakatsu · Post by **Dakatsu** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:01 pm

I think it is T1 or LAN

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:11 pm

Do_Checkor wrote:we want to get rid of the fools who either set their PPS rate (by network settings in the D3 launcher) INTENTIONALLY low OR just are too lazy...

Thank you for the clarification, I understand better now!

grizz · Post by **grizz** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:01 pm

Quest DSL, 256/256

The only one I know on dial-up is Coretess/Woodhippy, who plays regularly, though I'm sure there are others.

Aus-RED-5 · Post by **Aus-RED-5** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:16 pm

Australia - TPG
ADSL 1.5mbps

I'm almost too embarrassed to even post this.

Nosferatu · Post by **Nosferatu** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:23 pm

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:38 pm

Aus-RED-5 wrote:Australia - TPG
ADSL 1.5mbps

I'm almost too embarrassed to even post this.

What? At least it isn't like this:

Yeah, that is for real too.

SuperSheep · Post by **SuperSheep** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:51 pm

Not too bad.

d3jake · Post by **d3jake** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:23 pm

Apparently that thingie for testing speeds is smart than I am... I can't get it to go....

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:45 pm

d3jake wrote:Apparently that thingie for testing speeds is smart than I am... I can't get it to go....

The flash8 one works fine.

Mickey1 · Post by **Mickey1** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:26 pm

14809 Kb/s 1730Kb/s 59ms Latency

Verizon Fiber

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