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Eagle, has responded and given his approval.
I received a reply from HeXetic concerning the above pyro he was fine with it, and forward me to Sp3ctre who I emailed last night.
I love the detail on Sp3ctre's and agree I would like to wait till Ferno can show us something. My only haste is I have the funds on hand to make on this week, as a single parent that may not be the case next week
My order of preference to date (pending ferno)
1) Sp3ctre's
2) Eagle's
3) Bubbalou's
?)Ferno's
One of the best things we have going is that ingame model are really low rez so it's easy for us to look at any of these as what we fly ongame
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I received a reply from HeXetic concerning the above pyro he was fine with it, and forward me to Sp3ctre who I emailed last night.
I love the detail on Sp3ctre's and agree I would like to wait till Ferno can show us something. My only haste is I have the funds on hand to make on this week, as a single parent that may not be the case next week
My order of preference to date (pending ferno)
1) Sp3ctre's
2) Eagle's
3) Bubbalou's
?)Ferno's
One of the best things we have going is that ingame model are really low rez so it's easy for us to look at any of these as what we fly ongame
Regards,
KB
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Alright, I would like it to look like when the GX drops out of Mil132 (the base that it docks with in the beginning cinematics of D2) with the concussions on its back wings, and if I had the time, I would liketo attempt to make the back wings fold up like they did in that same cinematic.KoolBear wrote:why not jake? I am basing them on mine, but remember it is not the pyro-gl from D3.
I would like to seek peoples in opinions especially those that have a dream of a Pyro on thier Desk!
I promise that I will consider these inputs since the decision needs to made soon. Ferno says "Put it in neutral" so let's see what he has in mind.
It would be nice if we all can find a comprimise.
You see I will get a model, and I am willing to adjust my dream , I am trying to find away for everyone that wants one to be able to get one and to like the one we get So speak up and be heard!
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The wing's folded up? Do you have that .mov file?d3jake wrote:
Alright, I would like it to look like when the GX drops out of Mil132 (the base that it docks with in the beginning cinematics of D2) with the concussions on its back wings, and if I had the time, I would like to attempt to make the back wings fold up like they did in that same cinematic.
UPDATE Sp3tre has giving his approval to use his model,( last one posted by Aus-RED-5) for the SLA.
If you really look at his model it ROCKS. When I think of an un-painted model sitting on someones desk all I can think of is all that little detail that he has in the model while keeping as true to form as possible considering the game is lo-rez this is hi-rez. I still want to see ferno's work. But man this is by far the direction I would like to see.
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doody, I'm a anarchy rat, after beating the boss in the original D1 Demo I found multi-player and I never looked back at single player, hence no cut scenes. When D2 came out I was full bore anarchy play. Never really played the D2 or D3 single player modes. Wait I do remember watching the opening cut scene where they droped the pyro into the sun I rember feeling my eyes get a little wet then.
Shame for sure but what can I say get me into the tunnels and I turn into an anarchy rat!
Back on track ... I think that would be extremely difficult to do in the models man. If you like though you could always cut your's up and hinge them
KB
Shame for sure but what can I say get me into the tunnels and I turn into an anarchy rat!
Back on track ... I think that would be extremely difficult to do in the models man. If you like though you could always cut your's up and hinge them
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Yes, I KNOW, I got it!Aus-RED-5 wrote:x2KoolBear wrote:umm model not movies ..
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duper you were ok you were on topic as your post was related to the d3jake's inquiry. You didn't need to edit
I was merely nudging, Hopefully in a day or two I'll start a new thread anyway. One that provides a plan for moving from concept/discussion to a getting a model to eveyone that wants one.
I figure I'll cover the cost of the initial model.
To cover the cost off the Mold and Individual Pyros we'll take the cost of the mold and divide it by the number of people that want a model; add this to the cost of the Pyro add S&H of course and we'll have the cost for everyone that wants a Pyro.
I also thought it would be a good jester of we were to all add enough to purchase a Pyro for the modeler of the version we us. Would anyone have issues with that?
KB
I was merely nudging, Hopefully in a day or two I'll start a new thread anyway. One that provides a plan for moving from concept/discussion to a getting a model to eveyone that wants one.
I figure I'll cover the cost of the initial model.
To cover the cost off the Mold and Individual Pyros we'll take the cost of the mold and divide it by the number of people that want a model; add this to the cost of the Pyro add S&H of course and we'll have the cost for everyone that wants a Pyro.
I also thought it would be a good jester of we were to all add enough to purchase a Pyro for the modeler of the version we us. Would anyone have issues with that?
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Not at all, because I'm pretty sure there will be more then a few people here who will want one!KoolBear wrote:I also thought it would be a good jester of we were to all add enough to purchase a Pyro for the modeler of the version we us. Would anyone have issues with that?
KB
I like Eagle's pyro best, particularly if he adds attachment brackets for the missiles. The edgy style looks truest to the original and just makes it look better than the softened up other models, imo.
I'd definitely like to have such a 3D model. I'd do the painting myself (airbrush). I'd also love to have a Pyro model kit the kind with many small parts you have to glue together yourself ...
Having the model 30 or 50 cms long (1 - 1.5 ft) would be pretty neat, too.
I'd definitely like to have such a 3D model. I'd do the painting myself (airbrush). I'd also love to have a Pyro model kit the kind with many small parts you have to glue together yourself ...
Having the model 30 or 50 cms long (1 - 1.5 ft) would be pretty neat, too.
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Now here I thought you were using the models for a reference of your own, the one I have you was made back in 1999. If you wanted a High poly or a lofted STL one, give me a bit I'll do one from scratch take me about a week or so.
Since things will not be in place for at least a month, So hold off on making a firm commitment to a specific model. I personally do not care for any models that look like tonka toys when it comes to the Pyro-GX it is supposed to be hard edged, unlike the Pyro-GL.
Also BTW you can make you own model out of clay, wood, or wax for your casting mold and save $500
Movies for non tonka reference
Descent Intro
Descent Ending
Descent 2 Intro
Descent 2 Ending
Descent 3 Intro
Since things will not be in place for at least a month, So hold off on making a firm commitment to a specific model. I personally do not care for any models that look like tonka toys when it comes to the Pyro-GX it is supposed to be hard edged, unlike the Pyro-GL.
Also BTW you can make you own model out of clay, wood, or wax for your casting mold and save $500
Movies for non tonka reference
Descent Intro
Descent Ending
Descent 2 Intro
Descent 2 Ending
Descent 3 Intro
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Bubba I am not sure I have the time to invest in learning the art of casting. Nor do I really have the desire. Let's see if this comapny can make them cheap enough. If so I would say let them. If not then we will figure out something. Once we have the first model that rest shouldn't be to big of a deal.BUBBALOU wrote: Also BTW you can make you own model out of clay, wood, or wax for your casting mold and save $500
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This I can't deny, nor would I try .Sniper wrote:I would prefer a true-to-original, as it would be in real life. Real life comparison can only be made to the model that we see in the movies in Descent. IMO, Eagle's model comes the closest without reg flags popping up in my minds eye.
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I am glad I am having enough of your attention to be understood now.
Diedel ([color=orange]Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:39 pm[/color]) wrote:I like Eagle's pyro best, particularly if he adds attachment brackets for the missiles. The edgy style looks truest to the original and just makes it look better than the softened up other models, imo.
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Me too, I thought we were on the same page.Diedel wrote:I am glad I am having enough of your attention to be understood now.
Diedel ([color=orange]Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:39 pm[/color]) wrote:I like Eagle's pyro best, particularly if he adds attachment brackets for the missiles. The edgy style looks truest to the original and just makes it look better than the softened up other models, imo.
I totally agree, actually I like Spe3tre's the best it is BEAUTIFUL. Simply outstanding.
BUT Eagle's remains beary true to the game while providing more detail!
I understand Eagle's was made from a Pyro Ferno had made several years ago. I seem to recall it. Ferno do you still have that model?
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Duper is that a D2 Utility, one that can be found on PD?Duper wrote:I think you can export the model using DTX.
If you have it installed can you see about exporting it?
Thanks Aus-Red-5. I am going to use Eagle's Pyro. I have asked Issac if he will perform the final modifications to the files. If anyone else is interested in doing them let me know.Aus-RED-5 wrote:That looks pretty cool KB.
Update on that model?
Sorry I shouldn't have gotten off topic with my modeling of the game version GX. I split that conversation.
KB
UPDATE: Bubbalou has offered to clean up Eagle's model.
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Update
Below is part of an ongoing conversation I am having with the SLA house...
NOTE: The pricing shown below is what the original model will cost ME to produce not you. PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT THE MODELS THAT this pricing reflects your cost. What I hope to offer won't be anywhere near this costly!
If there's anyone out there that want's an SLA model instead of a casting from one. And you are willing to shell out the big bucks I am sure we can drive down that $200.
Let's sum this up, to make the STL in one SOLID part will cost considerably more then if I break it up.
If I have to break it up we might as well break it down into more/smaller parts. The bed the part is processed on is 20\"x20\". Currently the SLA would be a is solid. If we shelled it out so all we had were the other skins (just like a model car or plane) We consierably reduce the volume and processing time.
Sitting in the normal position the Pyro will be serveral inches tall (more time to process) if we split the wings/stabalizers/missles/cockpit and then split the bodt ib half we effectively have a lower z-axis travel (shorter process time) we might be able to shave more off the cost. I'll ask Dan this Monday.
Bubbalou has offered his services to make Eagle's model ready.
Thought's? Idea's? Concerns?
Bubbalou, you know if we spilt it up it'll be much easier to mold the parts. We might actually be able to do it with paying big bucks for teh mold.
On a slightly different note I am going to order Sp3tre's model for now while we work out the details on Eagle's model I have a little money burning a hole in my pocket, if I don't spend it on me it'll be spent on my kids I never purchase anything for ME!
NOTE: The pricing shown below is what the original model will cost ME to produce not you. PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT THE MODELS THAT this pricing reflects your cost. What I hope to offer won't be anywhere near this costly!
If there's anyone out there that want's an SLA model instead of a casting from one. And you are willing to shell out the big bucks I am sure we can drive down that $200.
Hey Michael,
It was good to speak with you on the phone and connect with a fellow hardcore gamer. I took a look at your site and its awesome that you guys are rocking it old skool as they say. If you are really into old games like me, you should take a look at http://www.the-underdogs.info/ A great resource for downloading or buying old out of print games.
For your project I scaled down the fighter to around 6\" and by the looks of it you could do fine with SLA technology, which has less detail the but trade off its a bit cheaper. Both SLA and Objet can be primed and painted for customization. We can do that in-house or you can do it yourself. The only thing I'd be worried about is the gun tips, right now they are 25 thou which is just approaching the limit of the machines. They have a minimum wall thickness of 20 thou but it this case I think the guns will come out alright.
Thank you for your offer to for us to make samples of them! Below you'll find our pricing that I made sure is very competitive, with a discount for quantities.
For one fighter:
SLA: 200
Objet: 400
For two fighters:
SLA: 380
Objet: 760
Let me know what you'd like to do and then I'll adjust the manual quote for you on Xpress 3D. Then we can get this project going for you. I look forward to seeing how these come out!
Dan Straka
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Mike,
I sat down with our project manager and the molder and we started to quote your part. The missiles will have to be separated out, and even the ship cut in half. As we talked further it seemed like the molding option might start to be getting out of the budget for the project. As it is it would cost somewhere between 2 - 3 thousand for the making of 3 molds and already it sounds like it might be pushing your budget.
So I thought as an alterative it might be best to make straight SLAs. What you could do to drive down the price is have the fighter be built in two halves and shelled out. Like a model kit. That would really drop down the volume of the fighter and thus the price.
After shelling it out, I would suggest cutting around that red line on the jpeg. I talked to Dan and he though the best and easiest way is to just make the one cut.
Let us know what you would like us to do. Take care.
Dan Straka
Let's sum this up, to make the STL in one SOLID part will cost considerably more then if I break it up.
If I have to break it up we might as well break it down into more/smaller parts. The bed the part is processed on is 20\"x20\". Currently the SLA would be a is solid. If we shelled it out so all we had were the other skins (just like a model car or plane) We consierably reduce the volume and processing time.
Sitting in the normal position the Pyro will be serveral inches tall (more time to process) if we split the wings/stabalizers/missles/cockpit and then split the bodt ib half we effectively have a lower z-axis travel (shorter process time) we might be able to shave more off the cost. I'll ask Dan this Monday.
Bubbalou has offered his services to make Eagle's model ready.
Thought's? Idea's? Concerns?
Bubbalou, you know if we spilt it up it'll be much easier to mold the parts. We might actually be able to do it with paying big bucks for teh mold.
On a slightly different note I am going to order Sp3tre's model for now while we work out the details on Eagle's model I have a little money burning a hole in my pocket, if I don't spend it on me it'll be spent on my kids I never purchase anything for ME!
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