Just looking for pointers on my site.

TigerRaptor · Post by **TigerRaptor** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:52 am

I'm just looking for pointers on my site. Iâ??m a big boy I can take it.

On a side note please no word about Frontpage.

http://www.tigerraptorfx.com

Max_T · Post by **Max_T** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:54 am

omg, my eyes, lol

it's umm, colorful, yeah

Tetrad · Post by **Tetrad** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:16 am

1997 called. They want their website design back.

Vindicator · Post by **Vindicator** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:28 am

Nice background pic, but it makes the text hard to read.

bash · Post by **bash** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:18 am

Garish.

ccb056 · Post by **ccb056** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:45 pm

1. Get rid of the background pictures
2. Get rid of the frames
3. Get rid of the counter
4. Use arial font

Tetrad · Post by **Tetrad** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:57 pm

ccb056 wrote:4. Use arial font

Verdana or Tahoma are better.

ccb056 · Post by **ccb056** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:10 pm

remember to use alot of keywords with black text on a black background, search engines love it

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:33 pm

First off, the background has got to go. Makes the text much too difficult to read. You want your background to contrast your text color, not be similar to it. Secondly, shrink the images in the left frame down so we don't have to scroll excessively to see other parts of your site.

Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Admiral Thrawn** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:56 pm

Even though I don't have much room to talk since I haven't restored korrupted.net back to it's former glory yet, here are a few things you want to consider.

Frames - Unless ABSOLUTELY neccessary, stay away from them. Use tables whenever possible

Colors and text - Bright background colors makes people eyes hurt and makes kids fall down to the floor quivering like electroshocked baboons. You want to stay with a plain background color that has a good contrast with the text you are using so that it's easy to read.

Background sounds are a nuisance. Unless they actually serve a purpose (which is rare), don't use them.

Site them - use the same color scheme and theme for all of your pages throughout a site. Use linked stylesheets to ease the maintainance of your site theme and colors.

Content - must have good content

Also remember that you have anywhere between six and fifteen seconds to get the user's attention before he/she decides to move off to a different site. Take this into consideration when building and developing your site.

Updated content - people don't come back to see the same old stuff. They want to see something dynamic that constantly changes. Journal, news, etc...

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:08 pm

www.websitesthatsuck.com

I just submitted yours. I haven't seen anything that ugly for years!

WELL DONE! THAT TOOK TRUE TALENT!

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:16 pm

Mobius wrote:www.websitesthatsuck.com

I just submitted yours. I haven't seen anything that ugly for years!

WELL DONE! THAT TOOK TRUE TALENT!

Mobius, don't be an ★■◆●. He asked for tips, not for you to be a dickhead.

TigerRaptor · Post by **TigerRaptor** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:24 pm

Mobius wrote: I haven't seen anything that ugly for years!

Well Mobius my buddy I guess you finaly have some compattion.

Mobius wrote:WELL DONE! THAT TOOK TRUE TALENT!

So did that post of yours!

Ah hell I all most forgot. Mobius keep a look out at http://www.uglypeople.com

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:43 pm

Tetrad wrote:1997 called. They want their website design back.

Yep, that sums it up pretty good. Loose the background, frames, and javascripts.

roid · Post by **roid** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:13 pm

it took over 2 minutes to load!!!

TigerRaptor · Post by **TigerRaptor** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:14 pm

Ok looks like I have some worked to do. Iâ??m going to remove most of the backgrounds. Except for the art work and the descent 1 & 2 of my site. Iâ??ll most likely remove pictures in the scroll. But I don't want this be another boring website. I any suggestion on what will catch someone's eye in the beginning.

roid · Post by **roid** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:22 pm

make it more sparse, with less colours.

ie: get a colour THEME going.

(i'm sorry but i am kinda LOLing at the site haha, it really is somewhat of a cliche of personal websites, to use TONS of colours, crazy backgrounds, intropages, and no antiailasing on pictures. in other words, it needs a lot of work

but keep it up dude, i'm sure you've got what it takes to make a SWEETTOTALLYCOOLKILLER website. keep us updated eh)

ps: what's with the tigers?

Tetrad · Post by **Tetrad** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:37 pm

I just realized something. The site had not one, but TWO seperate splash intro pages. That has to be a new one for me.

Asrale · Post by **Asrale** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:04 pm

TigerRaptorFX wrote:Ok looks like I have some worked to do. I’m going to remove most of the backgrounds. Except for the art work and the descent 1 & 2 of my site. I’ll most likely remove pictures in the scroll. But I don't want this be another boring website. I any suggestion on what will catch someone's eye in the beginning.

Almost all of the Planet sites on the GameSpy Network, including GameSpy.com itself, have attractive color & graphics schemes and instantly appeal to the eye...of course PlanetDescent has a nice one, but I particularly like PlanetAvP and PlanetHalf-Life...

And no offense, but did you say you used FrontPage for that eyesore? WYSIWYG editors usually churn out good-looking sites for people that aren't blind...

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:17 pm

When something is as bad at Tigerraptors web site, then there is simply nothing to be said except what I said.

If he wants my professional opinion, by way of web site design and code review, then my standard fee is $500 + tax.

For this site however, I'll charge $1000 - as it'd take a LONG, LONG time.

Sorry TR - but your site is just sooo bad that it's easier to says what isn't stuffed - rather than what is. And frankly, in my cursory glance at it, I could see NOTHING which deserved a positive mention.

My mother taught me that if I couldn't anything nice, then I shouldn't say anything at all. Screw That!

But TR - I have to hand it to you buddy - our office of professional programmers and web coders had the biggest and longest laugh for some weeks cruising around your site.

The site I sent you to: www.websitesthatsuck.com was my way of saying that you should go directly there and learn what mistakes you've made by reading the site and learning some basic web design principles.

The other site you should go to is www.useit.com - which has a wealth of usability guidelines for web site design.

If you want to see what clean design looks like - check out the concept and art on my latest effort:

http://dev.diligentdatasystems.com/ams/00000.shtml - it's on the DEV server, which is prone to frequent outages as our programmers like to crash the server with buggy server-sode code.

There's no content, and the Javascript is buggy - because it is in primary development and concept approval stage.

Remember - on the web, less is more, and simple design > complex stuff. The back end can be as complex as all hell, but the front should be simple, clean, fast and user-friendly.

Nitrofox125 · Post by **Nitrofox125** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:17 pm

1. Get rid of the background pictures
2. Get rid of the frames
3. Get rid of the counter

That pretty much summed it up. And um... did I just click through two intro pages? Tell me I did not......

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:59 pm

Yes you did.

TigerRaptor · Post by **TigerRaptor** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:44 am

Ok I took out most of backgrounds and I decided to keep the original intro. Now I just need to think where I go from here.

Nitrofox125 · Post by **Nitrofox125** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:30 am

Much better! If you do want a background image something dark and low-contrast is fine to add.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:01 pm

MUCH better.

TigerRaptor · Post by **TigerRaptor** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:49 am

I might put one of the backgrounds back sometime in the future. Basically the whole purpose of the site is for the art work Iâ??m doing. Iâ??m still learning 3d Max, Flash 5, and a few other programs.