Ok.. so that leaves just spam. Thanks, I guess.Ferno wrote:I've been here long enough to not even care about my post count. Nice try though.Bet51987 wrote:Well, thanks for the spam anyway. I keep forgetting about you increasing your post countFerno wrote:nope.
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The USS Vincennes was in a war zone protecting Kuwait during the Iraq/Iran war (not ours) and the crew shot down the airliner by mistake thinking it was a bomber heading for their ship. It was not done for power and greed, nor was it a country. I'm disappointed that you would think we shot down a civilian airliner full of women and children on purpose, I really am surprised.Dakatsu wrote: Iran 1998
On July 3, 1988 the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian Airbus A300B2 on a scheduled commercial flight in Iranian airspace over the Strait of Hormuz, resulting in 290 civilian fatalities from six nations, including 66 children. On February 22, 1996 the United States paid Iran $61.8 million in compensation for the 248 people killed in the shootdown. The United States has not compensated Iran for the airplane itself to date. The aircraft was worth more than $30 million. The United States however never officially apologized.
Sudan has been on the U.S. list of states that sponsor terrorism since 1993, and the U.N. Security Council imposed sanctions on Sudanfrom 1996 to 2001 because of its involvement with terrorism. The Islamist Arab government that controls most of the country has provided sanctuary to terrorists, including Osama bin Laden, and has let terrorist groups plan and carry out operations from Sudan.Sudan 1998
The missiles were launched from US warships in the Red Sea. Several hit the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory, which the United States claimed was helping Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the embassy attacks, build chemical weapons. Dozens were wounded in Sudan by the strike.
Then United States National Security Council advisor Richard Clarke stated that intelligence existed linking Osama bin Laden to al Shifa's current and past operators, namely the Iraqi nerve gas experts and the National Islamic Front in Sudan.[1] The government of Sudan demanded an apology from both the Clinton and Bush administrations; but none has been given, since U.S. intelligence apparently still believes the plant had ties to chemical weapons. According to testimony by William Cohen, "...the U.S. intelligence community obtained physical evidence from outside the al-Shifa facility in Sudan that supported long-standing concerns regarding its potential role in Sudanese chemical weapon efforts that could be exploited by al Qaeda." [1]
Officials later acknowledged, however, "that the evidence that prompted President Clinton to order the missile strike on the Shifa plant was not as solid as first portrayed. Indeed, officials later said that there was no proof that the plant had been manufacturing or storing nerve gas, as initially suspected by the Americans, or had been linked to Osama bin Laden, who was a resident of Khartoum in the 1980s."[2]. Unfortunately the factory was Sudan's primary source of pharmaceuticals, covering the majority of the Sudanese market. Werner Daum (Germany's ambassador to Sudan 1996–2000) wrote an article [3] in which he estimated that the attack "probably led to tens of thousands of deaths" of Sudanese civilians. The U.S. State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research wrote a report in 1999 questioning the attack on the factory, suggesting that the connection to bin Laden was not accurate; James Risen reported in the New York Times: "Now, the analysts renewed their doubts and told Assistant Secretary of State Phyllis Oakley that the C.I.A.'s evidence on which the attack was based was inadequate. Ms. Oakley asked them to double-check; perhaps there was some intelligence they had not yet seen. The answer came back quickly: There was no additional evidence. Ms. Oakley called a meeting of key aides and a consensus emerged: Contrary to what the Administration was saying, the case tying Al Shifa to Mr. bin Laden or to chemical weapons was weak."
What terrorist activities have been linked to Sudan?
A 1995 attempt to assassinate Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak during a visit to Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. The plot, by members of an Egyptian Islamist group known as Jamaat al-Islamiyya, was devised in Sudan; the state-owned airline carried the attackers’ weapons to Ethiopia; and when the plot was foiled, one of the alleged assassins escaped to Khartoum on a Sudan Airways flight. Sudan denied complicity but refused to turn over the would-be assassin and two others believed to be involved in the plot. The U.N. Security Council then placed a series of sanctions on Sudan, which lasted until late September 2001.
The simultaneous 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Al-Qaeda members operating from Sudan, which borders on Kenya, helped carry out these bombings, which killed 224 people, including twelve Americans. In response, the United States launched a missile attack on a Khartoum factory that U.S. intelligence reports indicated was producing the nerve agent VX. The Sudanese government said that the factory made pharmaceutical products.
In 2001, a Sudanese-born suspect arrested in a foiled plot to bomb the U.S. embassy in New Delhi told Indian investigators that Sudanese diplomats had given him explosives and detonators.
In 1996, U.S. investigators linked two Sudanese diplomats in New York to a terrorist cell planning to bomb the United Nations and assassinate Mubarak in New York.
Its a terrorist state.
Its a terrorist state.Afghanistan 1998
President Bill Clinton announced the attacks in a TV address, saying the Khost camp was "one of the most active terrorist bases in the world,"[13] adding that "I want the world to understand that our actions today were not aimed against Islam" which he called "a great religion."[14]
Some, however, including bin Laden, saw this as a way of attracting attention away from the Lewinsky scandal. On August 17, three days prior to the missile strike, President Clinton admitted in a [15] that he had an inappropriate relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. This address followed President Clinton's grand jury testimony earlier that day (see Wag the Dog).
The minister of information of Sudan harshly condemned the attack on Khartoum and denounced Pres. Clinton as a "proven liar" with "100 girlfriends". [16] In Afghanistan the Taliban also denounced the bombing. Massive protests were staged around the world, mostly in Muslim countries, denouncing the attacks. In "retaliation", a Muslim organization bombed a Planet Hollywood restaurant in Cape Town, South Africa on August 25, killing two and injuring 26. Osama bin Laden also pledged to attack the US again.
This was a NATO effort to stop the Serbian genocide.Yugoslavia 1999
NATO's bombing campaign lasted from March 24 to June 11, 1999, involving up to 1,000 aircraft operating mainly from bases in Italy and aircraft carriers stationed in the Adriatic.
The proclaimed goal of the NATO operation was summed up by its spokesman as "Serbs out, peacekeepers in, refugees back". That is, Yugoslav troops would have to leave Kosovo and be replaced by international peacekeepers in order to ensure that the Albanian refugees could return to their homes. However, the summary had an unfortunate double meaning which caused NATO considerable embarrassment after the war, when over 200,000 Serbs and other non-Albanian minorities fled or were expelled from the province. It was also suggested that a small victorious war would help give NATO a new role. Politicians from NATO states used terms such as "humanitarian bombing" and "humanitarian war" to describe the intervention.
Dakatsu.... I'm not going to answer the rest of your list or anything more that you google because your last statement is really foolish. I was questioning Tigers comment that we "continually attack" countries specifically for power and greed and I still want to know which ones.Wow, we love to bomb places for no reason, and that was only the last five!
Bettina
