Need pro abortion arguments
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Need pro abortion arguments
For school, I need to bring in a strong pro abortion argument, any ideas? These cannot be hypothetical situations, they must be an argument for abortion.
As a side note, I am pro life.
As a side note, I am pro life.
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12 Girl is raped. Having a girl that young carry a child to term is ludicrus.
Couple have unprotected sex. Woman gets pregnant. Keeping child would mean giving up their dreams possibly forever to give the child a semi decent life. Obortion would allow the couple to finish school and get a better life for both of them and any future children.
Couple have unprotected sex. Woman gets pregnant. Keeping child would mean giving up their dreams possibly forever to give the child a semi decent life. Obortion would allow the couple to finish school and get a better life for both of them and any future children.
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That one is really easy to shoot down, but the first one is a decent argument.cdn_merlin wrote:Couple have unprotected sex. Woman gets pregnant. Keeping child would mean giving up their dreams possibly forever to give the child a semi decent life. Obortion would allow the couple to finish school and get a better life for both of them and any future children.
I can't think of any strong arguments myself at the moment.
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Merlin makes a valid point
A young couple are irresponsible and make the mistake of having unprotected sex and the girl gets pregnant. The child would essentially have to pay for it's parents' mistake because the child would be unwanted and grow up in a family that did not want or care for it. I'd rather not exist than grow up in a situation like that.
A young couple are irresponsible and make the mistake of having unprotected sex and the girl gets pregnant. The child would essentially have to pay for it's parents' mistake because the child would be unwanted and grow up in a family that did not want or care for it. I'd rather not exist than grow up in a situation like that.
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This, Merlin's rape arugment,and the possible fatality of carring the fetus to term are the only points that won't get shot down with a salvo from the "why not give the baby up for adoption" camp; even then, the raped girl argument is iffy, cause one can also say the fetus shouldn't suffer for the crimes of its father as well.Flabby Chick wrote:Severe abnormalities. Extreme retardation.
the only really strong argument is Goob's.
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Here's a few arguments I came up with off the top o' my head:
- You don't have to buy birthday presents.
- It beats sewing your thighs together.
- You can't party when you're pregnant.
- You don't have to buy new clothes.
- Birth hurts and stuff.
- Babies are "ucky".
- Americans are already too overweight.
- If you were me, would you reproduce?
- You're pretty sure your fetus has 666 on its scalp.
- You have a body, you don't need another one.
- You don't have to buy birthday presents.
- It beats sewing your thighs together.
- You can't party when you're pregnant.
- You don't have to buy new clothes.
- Birth hurts and stuff.
- Babies are "ucky".
- Americans are already too overweight.
- If you were me, would you reproduce?
- You're pretty sure your fetus has 666 on its scalp.
- You have a body, you don't need another one.
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Less than 50% of america decided that murder was against the law and we all seem to agree on that...
The problem is, many people see abortion as murder and instead of having a court define what is, and isn't murder, they decided to dodge the question and disguise it as a matter of personal privacy...so what's to keep me from murdering someone and claiming personal privacy?
The definition of 'what is life' needs to be outlined if the law is to be able to protect it.
They just dodged it like politicians instead of ruling like judges.
The problem is, many people see abortion as murder and instead of having a court define what is, and isn't murder, they decided to dodge the question and disguise it as a matter of personal privacy...so what's to keep me from murdering someone and claiming personal privacy?
The definition of 'what is life' needs to be outlined if the law is to be able to protect it.
They just dodged it like politicians instead of ruling like judges.
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Murder is killing a seperate entity, violating their civil rights. Murder can also be justified, albiet not often.
While it's still in her body, it's her tissue, her flesh, her decision.
Animals kill their offspring all the time, for many of the same reasons women get abortions. We're no better than animals. We just learned some table manners.
America is too fond of blanket laws restricting the many because of the stupidity of the few. It's quite pathetic.
While it's still in her body, it's her tissue, her flesh, her decision.
Animals kill their offspring all the time, for many of the same reasons women get abortions. We're no better than animals. We just learned some table manners.
America is too fond of blanket laws restricting the many because of the stupidity of the few. It's quite pathetic.
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So why the ruling on privacy? Why not rule on what is a seperate entity?Testiculese wrote:Murder is killing a seperate entity,...
I'm not looking to debate abortion just wanted to point out that the only real argument for abortion is the one the supreme court made, and it isn't a very clear argument.
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No, but there was a documentary on lions and how they kill their offspring, and why (food shortage, new male, etc). A little Google goes a long way if you want numbers. I just know it happens, and is frequent. Even with domestic animals.
Will: I've not read the Supreme Court's argument.
If ccb wants a valid argument for abortion, go into most any city, and check out the people. Ghettos, gangs, and 15yo's with 5 kids. If anything, this country needs more abortions, not less.
Will: I've not read the Supreme Court's argument.
If ccb wants a valid argument for abortion, go into most any city, and check out the people. Ghettos, gangs, and 15yo's with 5 kids. If anything, this country needs more abortions, not less.
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i'm not here to weigh in for or against abortion. however...
murder is killing a living person, i.e. a living human being. under the current law, the unborn is not a person. whichever side you support, it is important to take this into consideration in your argument. this is not a matter of debate.
the fetus is alive. no one debates this. according to the statute, the fetus is not a person.
so the questions then become, should the fetus be given rights (under the law) despite lacking personhood? and/or should the fetus be recognized as a person and given rights accordingly?
murder is killing a living person, i.e. a living human being. under the current law, the unborn is not a person. whichever side you support, it is important to take this into consideration in your argument. this is not a matter of debate.
the fetus is alive. no one debates this. according to the statute, the fetus is not a person.
so the questions then become, should the fetus be given rights (under the law) despite lacking personhood? and/or should the fetus be recognized as a person and given rights accordingly?
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Essentially, roe v wade. my understanding is that the Bush law applies only to a special case, where the victim is pregnant.
remember, there are many other existing statutes that pertain to the unborn that are not related to the victim being pregnant or even the abortion issue. it will be interesting to see how the bush law withstands challenges given other laws.
again, i'm not saying the unborn should or shouldn't have rights. but it doesn't make a lot of sense to say they have rights in one instance and not another. it would make more sense to give them rights across the board, or to simply treat a murder victim's pregnancy as a mitigating circumstance that calls for mandatory sentencing.
i could say a lot more about this but it depends on the interest here.
remember, there are many other existing statutes that pertain to the unborn that are not related to the victim being pregnant or even the abortion issue. it will be interesting to see how the bush law withstands challenges given other laws.
again, i'm not saying the unborn should or shouldn't have rights. but it doesn't make a lot of sense to say they have rights in one instance and not another. it would make more sense to give them rights across the board, or to simply treat a murder victim's pregnancy as a mitigating circumstance that calls for mandatory sentencing.
i could say a lot more about this but it depends on the interest here.
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