[16:04:26] Macmuelli > ( not officiell but giving infos about us
[16:04:33] Macmuelli > what we eat when there is trouble
[16:04:35] Macmuelli > everthing
[16:04:47] Macmuelli > written on paper
[16:05:09] Lrrp > And your family got out before wall was taken down?
[16:05:15] Macmuelli > as we was childrens they had planned giving us to famelys away from my parents
[16:05:23] Macmuelli > to let us go the \"right\" way
[16:05:50] Lrrp > Sounds like the old Nazis youth programs
[16:06:08] Macmuelli > east germany has take a lot of the nazis
[16:06:22] Macmuelli > i remeber saying this in school to my teacher
[16:06:43] Macmuelli > cos the nazis got the \" h j \" called \" Hitlerjugend\"
[16:06:58] Macmuelli > and the east germans had the \" FDJ\"
[16:07:04] Macmuelli > \"frei deutsche jugend\"
[16:07:05] Lrrp > Thought the communists hated the Nazis
[16:07:21] Macmuelli > i was deep in trouble comparing this and more to the east german system
[16:07:38] Macmuelli > but the had take many things from them
[16:07:45] Macmuelli > and chemes
[16:08:07] Macmuelli > like the presece of armee to the ppls on demenstrations in masses
[16:09:17] Macmuelli > i remember when
[16:09:28] Lrrp > I suspect you like your life a whole lot better now
[16:09:57] Macmuelli > i m more free
[16:10:01] Macmuelli > then before
[16:10:15] Macmuelli > but one thing was pretty bad what i ve done
[16:10:23] Macmuelli > the time when we try to go to west germany
[16:10:39] Macmuelli > i dont feel in common with east germany and the anthym
[16:10:48] Macmuelli > i was on a sport event and they played it
[16:10:54] Macmuelli > all ppls stands up
[16:11:04] Macmuelli > only mit sits down
[16:11:13] Macmuelli > i remember there faces
[16:11:21] Macmuelli > they ask me why i do this
[16:11:31] Macmuelli > i said it s not my system and anthym
[16:11:50] Macmuelli > <- deep in trouble
[16:11:52] Macmuelli > ^^
[16:12:25] Macmuelli > was 15 years old in tis time
[16:13:16] Lrrp > So how did you get out?
[16:13:21] Macmuelli > some ppls in my class try to hit me but i hit harder
[16:13:50] Macmuelli > the wall is falling
[16:14:20] Macmuelli > then they came to us and ask us if we are now interest to leave or stay( about the new situation)
[16:14:25] Macmuelli > we said we wanne leave
[16:14:32] Lrrp > So you had to wait until the wall was taken down
[16:14:39] Macmuelli > so they said we had to sell all stuff
[16:14:50] Macmuelli > we had wait 3 years
[16:14:59] Macmuelli > then the wall falls
[16:15:24] Macmuelli > after 11 days we leaved east germany
[16:15:30] Macmuelli > then
[16:15:39] Macmuelli > awesome time lrrp
[16:15:55] Macmuelli > u cannot imagine what ppls feel in this time if u are effected by it
[16:15:58] Lrrp > Well if anyone I know says communism is a great system I will have them talk to you
[16:16:23] Macmuelli > its not about the real sens behind communism
[16:16:37] Macmuelli > and his socials aspect
[16:16:47] Lrrp > Coming to west germany must of been like me going to Disney Land
[16:16:48] Macmuelli > the human isnt ripe for it as long there is money
[16:16:56] Macmuelli > not realy
[16:17:13] Macmuelli > cos my father was a seamen and had get west money
[16:17:21] Macmuelli > so we could by everthing
[16:17:25] Lrrp > Ah
[16:17:46] Macmuelli > believe me
[16:18:10] Macmuelli > if the east germans had give the ppls inside the system more freedom
[16:18:23] Lrrp > Problem is most people want to own their own property and not work for a collective state
[16:18:28] Macmuelli > no one wanne had it changed
[16:18:41] Macmuelli > jepp
[16:18:59] Macmuelli > a lot of ppls are envy in what his neighbour got
[16:18:59] Lrrp > No incentive, no urge to produce
[16:19:07] Macmuelli > so communism CANT work
[16:19:42] Lrrp > Even Chinese Communist now see the value of capitolism
[16:19:58] Macmuelli > this is what i had told my director on school after i had to go down to him and he ask my why we wanne go to west germany
[16:20:15] Macmuelli > awesome time
[16:20:30] Lrrp > I'll bet
[16:21:12] Lrrp > Is East Germany now pretty well integrated to West Germany?
[16:21:18] Macmuelli > i remeber the words my \" pastor \" give me omw after the
[16:21:36] Macmuelli > \"where god is there is freedom. cos i lke freedom realy much
[16:21:49] Macmuelli > and no east germany isnt intergrated well to west germany
[16:22:23] Lrrp > Kinda tough to have the \"State\" as the religion
[16:22:35] Macmuelli > the old generation is broken on the new system and are not able to do anything
[16:22:47] Macmuelli > i didnt accept the stae as religion
[16:23:06] Macmuelli > if i had told u about the \" fdj\" a organisation for yound ppls
[16:23:20] Macmuelli > the got an uniform ( blue shirt + cappy)
[16:23:29] Macmuelli > i had burn it and said NO
[16:23:33] Macmuelli > in front of the school
[16:23:47] Lrrp > You had a death wish?
[16:24:15] Macmuelli > ever boy in the age of 15 goes to an camp where the first step into miltary comes to him
[16:24:32] Macmuelli > i said i dont touch a weapon
[16:24:52] Macmuelli > no death wish but i like the \" freedom \" of choice
[16:25:45] Lrrp > I'm surprised they didn't force you to go to camp
[16:25:55] Macmuelli > lol when i remeber that i was in est germany in the army^^
[16:26:11] Macmuelli > and i can shoot well
[16:26:37] Macmuelli > no they cant cos i said i m in a church and beliving in god
[16:26:53] Macmuelli > its my religion not killing ppls
[16:27:14] Macmuelli > so they cant force me to do it
[16:27:23] Macmuelli > t was a long meeting
[16:27:30] Macmuelli > and questions
[16:27:41] Lrrp > sounds like you had some very interesting experiences
[16:27:41] Macmuelli > i had to go to school i this time
[16:27:50] Macmuelli > with the girls from my class
[16:28:06] Macmuelli > u know what they told them?
[16:28:11] Macmuelli > if there is a war
[16:28:34] Macmuelli > its your role to get childrens to have new soldiers and fighters for the system
[16:28:36] Macmuelli > ....
[16:28:46] Macmuelli > first aid
[16:29:05] Macmuelli > and then they start formating his own in groups on the floor and march
[16:29:19] Macmuelli > i said no its milityra style i dont do it
[16:29:51] Macmuelli > my teacher was realy pissed and scream go ahead
[16:29:56] Macmuelli > i say thank u
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