Islam Watch

[Nightshade]

There are muslims that will stand up to hatred and the teachings of fellow muslim imams that espouse violence against unbelievers. I wish there were more that would speak up.

Here's an article from www.islam-watch.org:

A report posted on Islam Watch, a site run by Muslims who oppose intolerant teachings and hatred for unbelievers, exposes a prominent Islamic cleric and lawyer who support extreme punishment for non-Muslims — including killing and rape.

A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

\"Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet,\" the Imam says, according to the report. \"If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain.\"

The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam's position, saying that all Muslims are innocent.

Click here to watch the interview with Islamic lawyer Anjem Choudary.

\"You are innocent if you are a Muslim,\" Choudary tells the BBC. \"Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God.\"

Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

\"As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters,\" Choudary said. \"I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim.\"

Imam Choudary stands as an example of what is being taught in mosques around the world and in your own very back yard.

His interview is here:

Comment?

[Nightshade]

There are prospects for the reformation of islam as christianity did to become the modern form that exists today.

Some examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_mo ... thin_Islam

[Testiculese]

The more liberal (and libertarian) the better! Both Islam and Christianity.

[Ferno]

I particularly like it when people of any faith stand up to the thuggery and dogmatic behaviour of the extremists in their ranks.

[Nightshade]

I'd rather have no religion at all, but reform is better than nothing.

[Duper]

I'd rather have no religion at all, but reform is better than nothing.

no religion? The Soviet Union is/was a shining example of that scenario.

[Testiculese]

No that was authoritative communism, not lack of religion.

[Dakatsu]

Because you all cannot seem to be able to figure out what the Soviet Union's stance on religion was, lets just go to this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_i ... viet_Union

[Bet51987]

Because you all cannot seem to be able to figure out what the Soviet Union's stance on religion was, lets just go to this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_i ... viet_Union

Dakatsu... Nice song.

Bee

[Spidey]

Bait & Switch…Nice.

[Sergeant Thorne]

You're two days late, Dakatsu, but that was a good one.

*goes back to practicing dance moves*

Not really.

[woodchip]

In the old Soviet Union the State was the God and thus had no room for other religions.