The high priest is has no clothes...

[Nightshade]

Or is it a conscience?

Energy Guzzled by Al Gore’s Home in Past Year Could Power 232 U.S. Homes for a Month
Gore’s personal electricity consumption up 10%, despite “energy-efficient” home renovations

NASHVILLE - In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.

“A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.”

In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

In February 2007, An Inconvenient Truth, a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore’s Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household.

After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.

Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.

In the wake of becoming the most well-known global warming alarmist, Gore won an Oscar, a Grammy and the Nobel Peace Prize. In addition, Gore saw his personal wealth increase by an estimated $100 million thanks largely to speaking fees and investments related to global warming hysteria.

“Actions speak louder than words, and Gore’s actions prove that he views climate change not as a serious problem, but as a money-making opportunity,” Johnson said. “Gore is exploiting the public’s concern about the environment to line his pockets and enhance his profile.”

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a Nashville-based free market think tank and watchdog organization, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.

He reminds me of the snake oil salesman or the televangelist. Gore has merely found another angle on the scamming of America.

[Sergeant Thorne]

In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

What the hell is that all about? That's 19.3 households in the same time-period, thank you very much. (still outrageous, but I don't like to be messed with)

[Krom]

Well you know it takes a lot of power to run the climate control systems needed to grow a several acre plot of Cannabis...

[Will Robinson]

One of my favorite hypocrisies was the way the press has never stopped linking the Bushies to Big Oil but completely gave Al patron saint of the environment Gore a total pass on his work to have oil fields on U.S. Navy owned land sold to a company that he owns stock in!

Al Gore: The Other Oil Candidate
by Bill Mesler, Special to CorpWatch
August 29th, 2000

RELATED STORY

Integrity in the Balance
Bill Mesler reports on Gore's broken promises on a toxic Ohio waste incinerator.

For thousands of years, the Kitanemuk Indians made their home in the Elk Hills of central California. Come February 2001, the last of the 100 burial grounds, holy places and other archaeological sites of the Kitanemuks will be obliterated by the oil drilling of Occidental Petroleum Company.

Oxy's plans will \"destroy forever the evidence that we once existed on this land,\" according to Dee Dominguez, a Kitanemuk whose great grandfather was a signatory to the 1851 treaty that surrendered the Elk Hills.

Occidental's planned drilling of the Elk Hills doesn't only threaten the memory of the Kitanemuk. Environmentalists say a rare species of fox, lizard and the kangaroo rat would also be threatened by Oxy's plans. A lawsuit has been filed under the Endangered Species Act. But none of that has given pause to Occidental or the politician who helped engineer the sale of the drilling rights to the federally-owned Elk Hills. That politician is Al Gore.

Gore recommended that the Elk Hills be sold as part of his 1995 \"Reinventing Government\" National Performance Review program. Gore-confidant (and former campaign manager) Tony Cohelo served on the board of directors of the private company hired to assess the sale's environmental consequences. The sale was a windfall for Oxy. Within weeks of the announced purchase Occidental stock rose ten percent.

That was good news for Gore. Despite controversy over Dick Cheney's plans to keep stock options if elected, most Americans don't know that we already have a vice president with oil company stocks. Before the Elk Hills sale, Al Gore controlled between $250,000-$500,000 of Occidental stock (he is executor of a trust that he says goes only to his mother, but will revert to him upon her death). After the sale, Gore began disclosing between $500,000 and $1 million of his significantly more valuable stock.

Nowhere is Al Gore's environmental hypocrisy more glaring than when it comes to his relationship with Occidental. While on the one hand talking tough about his \"big oil\" opponents and waxing poetic about indigenous peoples in his 1992 book \"Earth in the Balance,\" the Elk Hills sale and other deals show that money has always been more important to Al Gore than ideals.

From California to Colombia: Native Lands Threatened
The Kitanemuk are not the only indigenous group threatened by Occidental's oil operations. The 5000-member strong U'wa of northeastern Colombia, have threatened mass suicide if Oxy proceeds with plans to begin drilling oil on their ancestral homeland. The U'wa, who retain their language and traditions, understand the introduction of oil would devastate their culture. They also understand that oil facilities would put them in the midst of Colombia's fierce civil war.

\"To the U'wa, oil equals violence,\" explains Danny Kennedy, director of the Berkeley, California-based Project Underground, which has helped wage an international campaign of support for the U'wa. Oil installations are a favorite target of leftist guerillas at war with the Colombian government. After guerillas bomb the installations, the army occupies the area. \"Then comes the paramilitary, who are basically soldiers with hoods on at night. Then comes the terror campaign\" says Kennedy. The U'wa, who have little contact with either the government or the guerillas, would end up becoming targets.

The U'wa have attracted international sympathy, but their efforts to enlist the support of Occidental's most famous shareholder -- Al Gore -- have come to naught. Gore publicly met the outcry over the U'wa with silence. The Vice President even refused a request by a Democratic member of Congress that he meet with an U'wa representative who had traveled to Washington to see him.

Meanwhile, Occidental pressed for the massive military aide package for Colombia the administration recently pushed through Congress. Occidental Vice President Lawrence Mirage testified before Congress in favor of the military aide package during the February deliberations, throwing in that those opposed to Occidental's drilling were a bunch of \"extremists.\"

Two things set the U'wa struggle and the Elk Hills sale apart from the corporate welfare so typical of the New Democrats: Al Gore's direct financial interest and his close relationship with Occidental Petroleum that dates back to his father

A Family Affair
Gore senior first met long-time Occidental CEO Armand Hammer at a cattle auction in the 1940s. When zinc ore was discovered on some of Gore's land, Hammer and Oxy bought it for twice the amount of the only other bid. Hammer then sold the land back to Gore while retaining the mineral rights. The elder Gore then sold the land to his son, Al Jr., who has received $20,000 yearly in mineral royalties from Occidental ever since. Two years after Gore Sr. was defeated in a bid for re-election to the Senate, he joined Occidental as a member of its board of directors and was rewarded with a $500,000 a year job working for an Oxy subsidiary

[TechPro]

Feb 2007 ABC News column about Gore's \"carbon footprint\" ... http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/GlobalWa ... id=2906888

Must have a big foot.

[Testiculese]

In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

What the hell is that all about? That's 19.3 households in the same time-period, thank you very much. (still outrageous, but I don't like to be messed with)

The article is correct. Playing with numbers to increase the sensationalism, but not changing them.

213210 / (11040 / 12) = 231.75

[Sergeant Thorne]

I know that. I actually just divided their number by 12 in my reply.

Such sensationalism borders on outright deception. They have no reason to present the numbers in that way other than to try and make them appear larger than they are. That's morally wrong. Plain and simple. I take offense at being handed a skewed picture of the whole thing.

It may be a relatively small thing, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna take it lying down! Who's with me?!!!

[woodchip]

It may be a relatively small thing, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna take it lying down! Who's with me?!!!

Depends on who I have to lay down with

[CUDA]

It may be a relatively small thing, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna take it lying down! Who's with me?!!!

Depends on who I have to lay down with

Roid

[Krom]

Breaking news!
Study shows that an average US household uses twelve times the energy in a year compared to an average US household in a month! Average IQ Americans comment: \"O Em Gee! That's a lot!\".

[TechPro]

Breaking news!
Study shows that an average US household uses twelve times the energy in a year compared to an average US household in a month! Average IQ Americans comment: "O Em Gee! That's a lot!".

Of course you know that means ... The average household usage for two years will be twice the average household usage for a year ... in the US.



...

[Tunnelcat]

Hmmmmm. Must be the new math.

[Jeff250]

213210 / (11040 / 12) = 231.75

So 232 is still an exaggeration. It can only power 231 houses.

[Ferno]

I thought I smelled BS.

[CUDA]

well technically it can power 231 homes + the 1 bedroom vacation house

[Will Robinson]

I thought I smelled BS.

They certainly wanted to make the numbers sound overwhelming but the root of the story is the important part and that part is no BS!
Al Gore, even after being confronted with the fact that he has a personal carbon footprint of many many times more than the average family, is still warming the globe at almost 20 times more than average!

So I ask you, if he's so damn concerned, and even after he's been put on notice that he's burning the house down and makes adjustments the best he can do is 20 times worse than the rest of us....is he the right guy for the job?!? Does he even care about results or did he just need a new gig? Once a lying two-faced senator always a lying two-faced senator and Al Gore was actually born and bred for that position!

[grizz]

[quote="Will RobinsonSo I ask you, if he's so damn concerned, and even after he's been put on notice that he's burning the house down and makes adjustments the best he can do is 20 times worse than the rest of us....is he the right guy for the job?!? Does he even care about results or did he just need a new gig? [/quote]

He cares about the $100,000 dollar fee he get's for talking about the environment. That's about it.

But everyone is missing the most important aspect of this string. Al Gore must really be a closet Moslem. Why else would ThunderBunny post about him?

[Foil]

But everyone is missing the most important aspect of this string. Al Gore must really be a closet Moslem. Why else would ThunderBunny post about him?

It's good to see TB branching out.

[Ferno]

I thought I smelled BS.

They certainly wanted to make the numbers sound overwhelming but the root of the story is the important part and that part is no BS!
Al Gore, even after being confronted with the fact that he has a personal carbon footprint of many many times more than the average family, is still warming the globe at almost 20 times more than average!

So I ask you, if he's so damn concerned, and even after he's been put on notice that he's burning the house down and makes adjustments the best he can do is 20 times worse than the rest of us....is he the right guy for the job?!? Does he even care about results or did he just need a new gig? Once a lying two-faced senator always a lying two-faced senator and Al Gore was actually born and bred for that position!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp

What's really interesting is what you dig up when you do a little research on the house itself.

four times as large as the average home, and is used as a business office, and a higher premium to get the electricity from 'green' sources.

To me, twisting facts and sensationalizing them is the equivalent of BS.

EDIT: I've been to about three different bb's and I'm seeing this same story on every one, and the posts are roughly the same date. almost seems like a campaign.

[Bet51987]

If, after your physical, your doctor told you he wants you to stop smoking....but he smokes himself, would you continue to smoke, or heed the warning?

Bee

[Spidey]

Either way, he’s still a hypocrit.

[Sedwick]

Breaking news!
Study shows that an average US household uses twelve times the energy in a year compared to an average US household in a month! Average IQ Americans comment: "O Em Gee! That's a lot!".

Ha! I should do a man-on-the-street reaction grab with that to see how some respond!

[TIGERassault]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp

What's really interesting is what you dig up when you do a little research on the house itself.

four times as large as the average home, and is used as a business office, and a higher premium to get the electricity from 'green' sources.

To me, twisting facts and sensationalizing them is the equivalent of BS.

EDIT: I've been to about three different bb's and I'm seeing this same story on every one, and the posts are roughly the same date. almost seems like a campaign.

Goodah. Article nullified due to sensationalism. Thread ends here.

[Sergeant Thorne]

Not quite.

What does a higher premium for green sources have to do with anything? We're not talking dollars, we're talking Kilowatt hours. And unless I'm mistaken, if he doesn't have some separate line set up, he's getting his electricity from the grid like everyone else. Not somehow getting a percentage of it from green power stations.

Perhaps we could all do an experiment, and record our kWh usage over the period of one week (morning to morning--7 consecutive 24-hour periods). That might give us a better base from which to judge some of this. Anyone game, starting this Sunday Morning (the 22nd)?

[Will Robinson]

...
Goodah. Article nullified due to sensationalism. Thread ends here.

Yea the issue dies if you do something wrong but your rivals describe it as really wrong....
wonderful logic you have there.
Now run along and apply that very same logic to everything Bush has done wrong but his rivals have described as really wrong and by your own logic you owe him a big apology!

Heh, nothing like willful stupidity to sustain ones ideological position!

[TIGERassault]

What does a higher premium for green sources have to do with anything? We're not talking dollars, we're talking Kilowatt hours.

No, this is an issue of pollution. Any electricity gained via non-polluting sources doesn't count towards a carbon footprint.

And unless I'm mistaken, if he doesn't have some separate line set up, he's getting his electricity from the grid like everyone else. Not somehow getting a percentage of it from green power stations.

That's what 'green sources' means, he is getting a percentage of it from eco-friendly power stations.

Yea the issue dies if you do something wrong but your rivals describe it as really wrong....
wonderful logic you have there.
Now run along and apply that very same logic to everything Bush has done wrong but his rivals have described as really wrong and by your own logic you owe him a big apology!

Umm... 'kay, what? I didn't say that the issue gets dropped, I just said that there's no point in the discussion going any further because the article itself was just sensationalism.

[Will Robinson]

...
Umm... 'kay, what? I didn't say that the issue gets dropped, I just said that there's no point in the discussion going any further because the article itself was just sensationalism.

I guess you want me to believe you really are that thick headed to be unable to recognize the article does show how Gore does have a much larger carbon footprint than most people? In spite of the way they broke down the one statistic in a more sensational looking ratio the facts support the articles allegations, and Gores lame attempt to call his mansion a home office does nothing to change that!

Lets look at the carbon footprint of the average office divided by the number of workers and see how his office adds up?!? Let's look at the number of man hours spent on actual work in this so called office and compare them with the average office and see how his carbon footprint compares...

You have to really want to be wrong to buy into the Gorespin on that lame explanation. He's pissing down your back and telling you it's raining and now you're singing and dancing in it like you're Gene Kelly!!

What he can count on is the mainstream media never running with this story and instead letting him continue prancing around the globe on his private jet getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a pop for preaching down his elite nose to the working class about how they need to carpool to work because they are screwing up the planet!!

Just because he's spending a fraction of those dollars to buy some carbon credits to offset his vapor trail around this globe doesn't impress me....you can have him!

[Foil]

Perhaps we could all do an experiment, and record our kWh usage over the period of one week (morning to morning--7 consecutive 24-hour periods). That might give us a better base from which to judge some of this. Anyone game, starting this Sunday Morning (the 22nd)?

I'd be up for it.

[woodchip]

It would be easy for me to compare as all my energy bills have usage either for a 13 month period or \"this time a year ago) listed on the bill. So what would you like to see?

[Sergeant Thorne]

No, this is an issue of pollution. Any electricity gained via non-polluting sources doesn't count towards a carbon footprint.
...
That's what 'green sources' means, he is getting a percentage of it from eco-friendly power stations.

You're right. I was mistaken.

I just re-read the Snopes article.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he's totally on the level, because they don't give any numbers in his favor (except to say the it's actually 12 times compared to the average in his area, for what that's worth).

[Will Robinson]

...I wouldn't go so far as to say he's totally on the level, because they don't give any numbers in his favor (except to say the it's actually 12 times compared to the average in his area, for what that's worth).

"In his area" is the key to that defense though.
If he lives in a neighborhood full of similar mansions then of course his carbon footprint gets lowered by comparison to other big time polluters!

I doubt Al's mansion is in an average neighborhood. So the article defending him is just as guilty of playing with the numbers as the one accusing him....

[TIGERassault]

I guess you want me to believe you really are that thick headed to be unable to recognize the article does show how Gore does have a much larger carbon footprint than most people? In spite of the way they broke down the one statistic in a more sensational looking ratio the facts support the articles allegations, and Gores lame attempt to call his mansion a home office does nothing to change that!

Lets look at the carbon footprint of the average office divided by the number of workers and see how his office adds up?!? Let's look at the number of man hours spent on actual work in this so called office and compare them with the average office and see how his carbon footprint compares...

So... what do you think? That while he's paying a premium for green electicity, inside all his stuff are actually E-rated energy gulpers to save on money? No, all the electricity is a result from being one of the biggest contributers towards the internet and technology as a whole. He tries, but there's always a limit on how much he needs to get by properly, and he does his best to lower that.

What he can count on is the mainstream media never running with this story and instead letting him continue prancing around the globe on his private jet getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a pop for preaching down his elite nose to the working class about how they need to carpool to work because they are screwing up the planet!!

Al Gore is a democrat. Mainstream media refers to news companies such as Fox. Do you honestly think they wouldn't be at his throat if there was actually something to report about it?

[Sergeant Thorne]

...I wouldn't go so far as to say he's totally on the level, because they don't give any numbers in his favor (except to say the it's actually 12 times compared to the average in his area, for what that's worth).

"In his area" is the key to that defense though.
If he lives in a neighborhood full of similar mansions then of course his carbon footprint gets lowered by comparison to other big time polluters!

I doubt Al's mansion is in an average neighborhood. So the article defending him is just as guilty of playing with the numbers as the one accusing him....

You're right, and that was actually in the back of my mind when I posted that reply ("for what that's worth").

[Will Robinson]

I guess you want me to believe you really are that thick headed to be unable to recognize the article does show how Gore does have a much larger carbon footprint than most people? In spite of the way they broke down the one statistic in a more sensational looking ratio the facts support the articles allegations, and Gores lame attempt to call his mansion a home office does nothing to change that!

Lets look at the carbon footprint of the average office divided by the number of workers and see how his office adds up?!? Let's look at the number of man hours spent on actual work in this so called office and compare them with the average office and see how his carbon footprint compares...

So... what do you think? That while he's paying a premium for green electicity, inside all his stuff are actually E-rated energy gulpers to save on money? No, all the electricity is a result from being one of the biggest contributers towards the internet and technology as a whole. He tries, but there's always a limit on how much he needs to get by properly, and he does his best to lower that.

That's a laugh! Now you credit Al for helping mankind with his burning the extra fuel at his mansion!?! As if he's in there perfecting new technology to save the planet and keeping the internet running smoothly?!?
You have your nose so far up his butt you can smell his coffee before he takes a sip!!

Before you can tell me "he tries.... and does his best" he needs to get off the private jet and take a train or at least a commercial plane along side all the rest of us average people that he's preaching to!
Your apologies for him are some of the most inane excuses anyone could come up with.

....Al Gore is a democrat. Mainstream media refers to news companies such as Fox. Do you honestly think they wouldn't be at his throat if there was actually something to report about it?

I imagine Fox did run the story but did CBS,ABC,NBC,CNN,MSNBC, or 90% of the nationaly distributed newspapers run it? Of course not, it doesn't fit their plans.

[Sergeant Thorne]

Feb 28, 2007
FoxNews - Is Al Gore as Green as He Claims to Be?
Dec 14, 2007
FoxNews - Al Gore's 'Energy Pig' Tennessee Mansion Goes 'Green'

According to The Internet Movie Database, An Inconvenient Truth was released in the US first on January 24th, 2006.