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Anyone care to take a guess?
Obama: My $ is on Chuck Hagel. Obama came onto the national scene in 04' with his \"We are a purple nation\" speech: Hagel is safe, against the war, and gives Obama some credit with not being a typical politicion.
McCain: Until Huckabee came out today I would of guessed Mitt. Now I am leaning towards Lieberman.
Obama: My $ is on Chuck Hagel. Obama came onto the national scene in 04' with his \"We are a purple nation\" speech: Hagel is safe, against the war, and gives Obama some credit with not being a typical politicion.
McCain: Until Huckabee came out today I would of guessed Mitt. Now I am leaning towards Lieberman.
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeche ... 004dnc.htm
You gonna guess or just here to derail?
Refered to by pundants after he gave it as his purple nation speech.Obama in 04 wrote:The pundits, the pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an "awesome God" in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and yes, we’ve got some gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.
You gonna guess or just here to derail?
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x2MD-1118 wrote:"Purple" nation?
we've gone from a "1000 points of light" to being a "purple nation"?? wonderful.
Thanks for the explanation Goob. The more I hear about Obama, the more he creeps me out. I don't like either candidate, but God help us if he's elected. ... and I'm a democrat. o.0
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How does a purple nation creep you out?Duper wrote:x2MD-1118 wrote:"Purple" nation?
we've gone from a "1000 points of light" to being a "purple nation"?? wonderful.
Thanks for the explanation Goob. The more I hear about Obama, the more he creeps me out. I don't like either candidate, but God help us if he's elected. ... and I'm a democrat. o.0
Then again, I'm biased for the color purple...
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I'll not derail, I honestly have never heard that turn of phrase. Then again, I don't pay a whole hell of a lot of attention to the news these days.
Your guesses seem logically sound, Gooberman. Barack could really use someone like Hagel after that mess with the Muslims. And McCain? I like to think of him, Gore and Lieberman as a candidate triumvirate who never quite get anywhere. I don't know why this is, but... the numbers speak for themselves. Still, from what I've seen Lieberman and McCain take the same side on several issues (I think - like I said, I don't really keep up with the news) and that makes for a good P/VP team.
Your guesses seem logically sound, Gooberman. Barack could really use someone like Hagel after that mess with the Muslims. And McCain? I like to think of him, Gore and Lieberman as a candidate triumvirate who never quite get anywhere. I don't know why this is, but... the numbers speak for themselves. Still, from what I've seen Lieberman and McCain take the same side on several issues (I think - like I said, I don't really keep up with the news) and that makes for a good P/VP team.
I was all set to vote for Obama because of his stance on pro choice, stem cell research, religion in education and a number of other issues but now he may choose Hagel as his running mate who is the exact opposite of Obama on most issues and Im really confused as why a presidential candidate would do that.
Now, this may sound insane to some of you, but I have to look at the possibility of Hagel becoming president and pushing his own agenda because to me, the chances of Obama being assasinated while in office are very very high. I like Obama a lot but I'm also a realist.
McCain is worse and if he chooses Huckabee that would be completely against everything that I want to see in a President. So, since this is the first time I get to vote for the President of the United States is it better not to vote at all than vote for someone you don't like? Because that's what I may do.
Bee
Now, this may sound insane to some of you, but I have to look at the possibility of Hagel becoming president and pushing his own agenda because to me, the chances of Obama being assasinated while in office are very very high. I like Obama a lot but I'm also a realist.
McCain is worse and if he chooses Huckabee that would be completely against everything that I want to see in a President. So, since this is the first time I get to vote for the President of the United States is it better not to vote at all than vote for someone you don't like? Because that's what I may do.
Bee
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Personally, I would vote for the lessor of two evils. You could also explore the green party or the others if there are any others just to get your point accross that you are dissatisfied.Bet51987 wrote:I was all set to vote for Obama because of his stance on pro choice, stem cell research, religion in education and a number of other issues but now he may choose Hagel as his running mate who is the exact opposite of Obama on most issues and Im really confused as why a presidential candidate would do that.
Now, this may sound insane to some of you, but I have to look at the possibility of Hagel becoming president and pushing his own agenda because to me, the chances of Obama being assasinated while in office are very very high. I like Obama a lot but I'm also a realist.
McCain is worse and if he chooses Huckabee that would be completely against everything that I want to see in a President. So, since this is the first time I get to vote for the President of the United States is it better not to vote at all than vote for someone you don't like? Because that's what I may do.
Bee
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When it was Bush versus Gore, I voted for Nader. I was one of thirty-something thousand in Florida and one of seventy six in my county that did so. There's usually at least a neutral candidate that you can vote for, and every vote cast for someone besides the persons you don't want in office counts.Bet51987 wrote:McCain is worse and if he chooses Huckabee that would be completely against everything that I want to see in a President. So, since this is the first time I get to vote for the President of the United States is it better not to vote at all than vote for someone you don't like? Because that's what I may do.
Bee
As it stands, though, I don't know yet who will get my vote this coming election. Definitely won't be Hillary or Obama, though.