Lets see who is avoiding what....
Cuda shows Obama's link to a derivitive of the socialist party. He asks for comments.
My comment:
Will Robinson wrote:I think the mainstream media won't allow their guy to be smeared by the truth.
You respond by challenging my assertion that the media won't smear Obama by bringing up three issues that were in the media back when Obama was running against other Democrats:
Ferno wrote:oh, sort of like the 'muslim' thing, the 'refused to say the pledge of allegiance' thing and the 'lapel' thing?
lol
I'm assuming you did that to show how the media has in fact smeared Obama.
So it is pretty clear to me that within this thread you and I are debating this point:
is the media going easy on Obama or not.
You lament a an alleged lack of conversation but apparently don't want to entertain the discussion that once Hillary, who was all but anointed Queen early in the race was knocked out, the dynamic
changed. You instead want to cling to the few trivial topics that managed to make their way into Obama's path and you also want to blame their being brought up by republicans!
So I corrected you and showed those issues are the results of being in a race against a Clinton, I showed you in one quote of a rabid Obama
democrat that it was understood by team Obama that Hillary was the one who threw the Muslim connections and the Ayers connection at Obama's feet, not McCain or some other republican! I don't know who managed to talk about the pledge and lapel pin first but really, give me a break! If that's the only thing the media was willing to toss in Obama's lap while ignoring the much bigger issues I can't buy into your notion that they were trying too hard to smear him..not even close to hard hitting journalism considering the stuff they could have exposed about him!! Your lose big time if you want to go down that road!
At the same time Hillary was trying to get the media to pick up on that dirt McCain was either still battling with Romney and Huckabee or had just vanquished them and was licking his chops letting the democrats tear into each other while he concentrated on fund raising. He was dead silent on the issue because the long standing conventional wisdom is,
"when your enemy is destroying themselves stay out of their way".
In spite of all that potential, relevant discussion you now want to keep repeating your self that I have been dodging your
really big important points about "lapel pins and pledge of allegiance and someone said he is a Muslim".
The truth is I did address your point, I exposed it for being slightly irrelevant to the point I was raising, clarifying that I was talking about the current media environment now that Obama is their guy, and brought up examples of much more hard hitting issues than trivial little digs you are focusing on, current issues that the media doesn't want to raise but would report on endlessly if it was on the other side!
The conversation was definitely there if only you were willing to engage your mind in an open fashion, instead you knee jerked your foot deep into your mouth and now all we hear is
mumble mumble you suck mumble mumble.
It isn't a lack of engagement of the issues on my part, you just don't like how your examples are shown to be lame and the discussion didn't go down the road you wanted to keep them on.
Another thing, you are trying to pin me down as a republican and I'm far from it.
I abandoned their team over 6 years ago, most recently I voted for Obama in the Primary, I voted for Badnarik in the last Presidential election and have already said I will most likely vote third party again in this election out of protest to both the two big parties. So just because you see me going off on my disappointment in Obama now that he's shown me what a typical democrat he really is doesn't mean I'm a republican.
If you want to know how to stereotype me you'll have to invent a new category, I'm anti-lefty media and anti-loopy liberal policy, anti-political correctness for the sake of pandering for votes. And I'm pro slap-Islam-in-the-face for spawning and branching out their kill-the-infidel program!
That is a portion of my ideology along with some liberal notions about drug law and I'm pro affirmative action but against quotas... I'm all over the place and don't fit in either of the big two party's ranks.
As it turns out, in this cycle, Obama embodies much more of that which I dislike than McCain so of course I'm railing on Obama and primarily the media's lack of objectivity and protection of Obama's history.
And in spite of all that I'm still at least thinking of voting for Obama, but not because I think he's going to be good for the country, but for other, more selfish reasons. Because I'm losing my faith in my fellow citizens to rise above the bull★■◆●, so from a survival instinct I think maybe I should just milk the system for all I can get to provide for my two daughters and at some point make sure they know where to move to once this place turns into a bad version of France! Obama wants to give me someone else's money to get my vote so maybe I'll just cash in on some of that free money he's going to spread around.
