Jar Preserved Baby Dragon Fetus

roid · Post by **roid** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:44 pm

http://www.para-normal.com/nuke/html/mo ... e&sid=2039

it sure looks real

DarkFlameWolf · Post by **DarkFlameWolf** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:12 pm

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:20 pm

The give-away is the umbilical chord. Dragons would be closely related to Dinosaurs had they actually existed. Being reptilian, offspring would have hatched via the egg instead of born out of live birth.

Whatever the original intent was in creating something like that, it still looks real enough.

Sage · Post by **Sage** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:37 am

it doesn't have a pee pee

JMEaT · Post by **JMEaT** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:49 am

And it looks like its made of latex

roid · Post by **roid** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:24 am

well yeah it's s'posed to be "pickled". any animal preserved like that looks like latex.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:25 am

JMEaT wrote:And it looks like its made of latex

You would too if you were a fetus stuck in a jar

EDIT: Damnit roid, you beat me by seconds.

Kyouryuu · Post by **Kyouryuu** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:27 am

Tyranny wrote:The give-away is the umbilical chord. Dragons would be closely related to Dinosaurs had they actually existed. Being reptilian, offspring would have hatched via the egg instead of born out of live birth.

Perhaps, but how are the yolk sacs of eggs connected to the host creature?

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:07 pm

Is it really worth mentioning that that animal's chest would have to be about a foot deeper with a keel-like Sternum in order for the wings to actually get it airborn?

Dragons never seem to have enough musculature, and seeing as they are *somewhat* larger than birds (Birds without feathers are tiny - and they have hollow bones) they would require and awful lot more flight muscles than birds. The only way to anchor flight muscles is against bone, and evolution already worked out once the best way to achieve this: a keel. My prediction is that a "dragon" wouldn't be able to walk on all fours if they were capable of flight, the keel would be so big it'd prevent the front legs from touching the ground.

Also, are people aware of any six legged dinosaurs or mammals? Because a wing is a modified leg. There'd be fossil evidence of any branch of animals that developed 6 legs/arms.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:30 pm

You could go into a host of things that would prove that thing to be fake Mobi. I think anyone with a decent education could tell that it is a hoax. Just one of many reasons why I didn't go into a whole rant about "why" it is fake.

Also...

The UK newspaper The Telegraph has just exposed this story as a hoax. Alistair Mitchell, a frustrated writer, devised the plan to create the dragon in order to create publicity for his planned thriller for adults and children, which features a dragon. He is reported to have said: "Essentially I created the hoax to market my book even before it was published." The dragon was created by the professional model-makers behind the BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs television programs (shame on them if they knew they were involved in a hoax!). The glass jar was made by a well-known glass-blowing studio in the Isle of Wight that I visited once.
For more details, go to: http://www.rense.com/general50/hoax.htm
and to:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... xhome.html

It pays to read the replies on that page

Sol, I'm not certain on that one. I'm no expert on the matter, but from what I've seen most reptiles aren't born with protruding umbilical chords once hatched

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:28 pm

The fact that they stated how it could be proved right/wrong and didn't state a finding from the x-ray test indicates that its fake.

Phoenix Red · Post by **Phoenix Red** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:44 pm

what I want to know is from where can I order one. That would look awesome on my desk.

Sage · Post by **Sage** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:39 pm

jesus christ mobius you're right...

JMEaT · Post by **JMEaT** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:18 pm

And the fact that the dragon in question doesn't exist.

Kyouryuu · Post by **Kyouryuu** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:30 pm

Tyranny wrote: Sol, I'm not certain on that one. I'm no expert on the matter, but from what I've seen most reptiles aren't born with protruding umbilical chords once hatched

Of course it's not an umbilical cord. But, is it something that would leave a mark? How are yolks physically attached to the bird/reptilian/etc.?

Sage · Post by **Sage** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:57 pm

I bet that dragon is going to go for a lot on ebay.

JMEaT · Post by **JMEaT** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:14 am

Sage wrote:I bet that dragon is going to go for a lot on ebay.

lol

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:48 am

Sage wrote:I bet that dragon is going to go for a lot on ebay.

and u will have every DnD geek out there trying to buy the damn thang

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:25 am

snoopy wrote:The fact that they stated how it could be proved right/wrong and didn't state a finding from the x-ray test indicates that its fake.

That's funny, I thought the fact that dragons are mythical creatures indicates that its fake

Shows how much I know.

roid · Post by **roid** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:29 am

the umbilical cord would have been disconnected once the dragon was born outof it's egg. so i guess it never got that far (egg was damaged and the partially developed fetus died, so it was salvaged into this jar)

Mobius wrote:Is it really worth mentioning that that animal's chest would have to be about a foot deeper with a keel-like Sternum in order for the wings to actually get it airborn?

good eyes mobi.

maybe a dragon will not fly until it is of a certain age, when it has grown it's scales. and the scales are used for leverage.

now we just need someone to explain how any possible "fire breath gland" would work haha.
there are some insects that set off violent chemical explosions within their body (that they direct out an opening, used as a defence mechanism). or perhaps a dragon could have a habit of swallowing FLINT, like how birds swallow rocks to aid digestion.
then the flint can be grinded and regurgitated into a powder, that is VERY easily and explosively combustable.

this is fun