CUDA wrote:and the little snide comment you made about us men thinking with our pants brain and lusting after Palin was uncalled for too. just a little two faced aren't you
This is the ONLY reason I can think of that men would even vote for Palin. She's demonstrated a complete lack of any brain power in ANY interview she's done in the media, so sex appeal MUST be the answer for her popularity with men. However, that doesn't account for popularity among women. I have no idea there. Show me a SMART conservative woman and I would seriously consider her as a viable candidate for public office. That's my ONLY gripe with Palin, so please don't take offense.
tunnelcat wrote:2)Politically motivated firings of U.S. Attorneys.
CUDA wrote:AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH WRONG perfectly legal and something that EVERY president does so. YOU LOSE
I'll give YOU that one.
tunnelcat wrote:4)Going to war on false pretenses and running up the national debt to pay for said war and leaving it as a legacy for the next administration.
CUDA wrote:are you really that uninformed of are you just trying to be stupid???
OH and by the way, Mr. Obama has run up the debt more in 8 months in office than the previous 43 president combined!!!!, or was that not in your how to be a liberal handbook???
Bush invaded the WRONG country based on lies, manipulation and deception and went after the WRONG perceived enemy. Last I heard, Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. He had almost 8 years in office, went to war in 2 countries which ramped up the military spending, multiplyed the debt he began with into massive proportions and he STILL didn't even get Bin Laden! I want my money back! However, Obama's going to have his own Vietnam the way things are turning out, so he needs to remember the lessons of history as well before deja vous hits him in the face.
tunnelcat wrote:5)Partially privatizing Medicare to make part of it a-for-profit enterprise and timing the end of the subsidies that made Medicare Advantage look cheaper than it really was, so that it just happened to run out after the next President took office and the rates would go up on his watch. Also for setting up manna from heaven for pharma so that the government COULDN'T negotiate for lower drug prices for seniors.
CUDA wrote:and this is Illegal?!?!?!? cmon you can do better than that
I didn't say illegal, but those nice little subsidies the Republicans demanded for passing the original bill are coming to an end this year which will add to the soaring costs with Medicare. You tell me if this was JUST a strategic move by Republicans to destroy Medicare. That's the Republican way, put a government program into so much debt, it has to fail. All those older Americans at those town hall meetings LIKED their Medicare when they were asked about it and they also didn't want it taken away, so they have no idea that the Republican-controlled Congress under Bush, with the idiot Dems help of course, have probably sped up it's demise.
tunnelcat wrote:6)Removing the final vestiges of financial regulation that allowed and propagated an economic crash of almost epic Depression-era proportions.
CUDA wrote:proposed by Barney frank and Chris Dodd and the democratically controlled congress, or was that not in your how to be a liberal handbook???
Congress was under Republican control for most of the 8 years under Bush, so WHY didn't they do something about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Oh, that's right. The Republicans don't like regulating the free market, so they left the mess on the next administration's doorstep. I agree the Dems are just as culpable here. But McCain had Phil Gramm as his advisor, the architect of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, so I already knew he was a bad choice beforehand. However, Obama and his choice of economic advisors turned out just peachy for us.
tunnelcat wrote:7)Privatizing the military and using mercenaries to do military dirty work in the name of Christian Crusading.
CUDA wrote:WTF are you talking about. I think you forgot your prozac on this one
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 740735.ece
tunnelcat wrote:
Allowing powerful Evangelical Christian leaders to influence public policy in violation of the separation of church and state.
CUDA wrote:see my response to the last question.
PLUS you apparently have no Idea what the 1st amendment is about. maybe you should try reading up on it in the current thread we have going
Well, apparently you don't see the blurring of the separation of church and state that been going on in our public schools. Tax dollars are being siphoned off from the public schools to fund these 'charter schools', which turn out to be mostly 'Christian run schools'. What happens when say for example, Muslim groups, decide they want to have some tax dollars to fund their schools or 'madrassas'? What would your reaction or that of most Americans be then? If you're going to give tax dollars to religious organizations for charter schools, you have to be fair to all religions. Frankly, I don't want MY tax dollars to even fund Christian schools. It would be better spent on improving our secular public school system, which is being slowly bled dry by the charter system.
CUDA wrote:yes please do because the way I see it. I've point out more illegal things that Obama has done in 4 months that you have Bush doing in 8 years,
comon just say it you know you want to. ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
No, but he really started this mess! And one more item I forgot about, Bush eliminating Habius Corpus, which, by the way, Obama has not reinstated. His bad!
tunnelcat wrote:Spidey, you can't tell me that little 'wink' is meant to just be nice. Men practically drooled and fell over themselves when she did that one. I'm not 'sexist', I just don't like women who use sex to gain status or power under false pretenses. Same goes for men as well.
Spidey wrote:I personally dont care if you like women who use their assets to move up or not. but when you accuse Men or thinking with their Johnsons your sexist
sex·ism (sěk'sĭz'əm)
n.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.
anything familiar about that definition. it has your name written all over it
second, to the racism quote you made earlier. I'm 50 I grew up in the south. I was one of the first 10 white kids to be bused to an all black school in 1968. I SAW racism I LIVED racism. so you what me to tell you what you can do with your racism quote.
typical liberal crap even mention a person of color and the try to label you a racist
Spidey, it's not sexism, it's reality. Face it, men can be lead all over the place by a beguiling woman. Since Palin has no smarts, it has to be her sensual manipulations and frankly, that's not a good requirement for public office, whether you like to admit it or not. Now, if she had half an ounce of brains, then maybe........
As for racism, although here in Oregon, I didn't experience it much firsthand, my husband has told me stories when he lived in Louisiana as a child and got to experience it first hand. When he and his mother rode the public bus one day, he wanted to ride in the big seat in the back of the bus, but the driver got up, stomped to the back and told him in no uncertain and snide terms that was the area reserved for 'colored people' and he had to move up front to his proper place. Even as a kid, the insensitivity of the white driver shocked him. Fast forward to the present, nothing seems to have changed. All this vitriol and hate concerning Obama has gotten so personal, emotional and over the top, it's GOT to have an racist underpinnings. If Obama were a white man, I bet you wouldn't see all this outright public hatred from Americans, even with the 'socialism' issue going on.
You even admitted it here...
