Shoe Bomber Judegement Hearing

Nexus_One · Post by **Nexus_One** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:16 pm

I just got this in an email, and I thought it was great. It's what the judge had to say when he sentenced the "Shoe Bomber".

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to set off? His trial is over. How much of this Judge's comments did you hear on TV? Everyone should hear what the judge had to say. This is worthy of your time. The real eye opener is that the News did not report anything on it.

US District Court Judge William Young statement in sentencing "shoe bomber" Richard Reid

JUDDGE WILLIAM YOUNG, SENTENCES THE SHOE BOMBER
US District Court Judge William Young made the following statement in sentencing "shoe bomber" Richard Reid to prison. It is noteworthy, and deserves to be remembered far longer than he predicts. I commend it to you and anyone you might wish to forward it to. (I hope you will read every word! Pray for more judges like this one.)

January 30, 2003, United States vs.. Reid."

Judge Young: "Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you. On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General.

On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other. That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.

The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further. This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this to you: We are not afraid of any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here. And I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, where we deal with individuals as individuals, and care for individuals as individuals, as human beings we reach out for justice, you are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or that happens to be your view, "You are a terrorist.And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice. So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted
murders. In a very real sense Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV crews were and he said you're no big deal. You are no big deal."

"What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. "What was it that led you here to this courtroom today? "I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I asked you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty, and admit you are guilty of doing. "And I have an answer for you.."It may not satisfy you. But as I search this entire record it comes as close to understanding as I know. It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious: You hate our freedom. "Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, and to believe or not believe as we individually choose. "Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea. "It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. "It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf, have filed appeals, and will go on in their representation of you before other judges. "We are about it. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. "Make no mistake though: It is yet true that we will bear any burden, pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. "Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. "The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will be forgotten. But this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice.. Justice, not war. Individual justice is in fact being done. "The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged. And juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically - to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice. "See that flag Mr. Reid? "That is the flag of the United States of America. "That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. It always will.

"Custody, Mr. Officer. Stand him down."

How much of this Judge's comments did you hear on our TV sets?

ZERO! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

index_html · Post by **index_html** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:40 am

I didn't hear about it. But, I did find the transcript on CNN's site:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/31/reid.transcript/

bash · Post by **bash** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:25 am

Something tells me that boy better pray to Allah he remains in solitary confinement. What a confused soul. /me shakes head.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>REID: I further admit my allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah. With regards to what you said about killing innocent people, I will say one thing. Your government has killed 2 million children in Iraq. If you want to think about something, against 2 million, I don't see no comparison.

Your government has sponsored the rape and torture of Muslims in the prisons of Egypt and Turkey and Syria and Jordan with their money and with their weapons. I don't know, see what I done as being equal to rape and to torture, or to the deaths of the two million children in Iraq.

So, for this reason, I think I ought not apologize for my actions. I am at war with your country. I'm at war with them not for personal reasons but because they have murdered more than, so many children and they have oppressed my religion and they have oppressed people for no reason except that they say we believe in Allah. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

KTHXBYE

Zuruck · Post by **Zuruck** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:13 am

You ever wonder if they're (Muslims) are right?

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:30 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Zuruck:
You ever wonder if they're (Muslims) are right?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right about what?

That their God is the one true God? Maybe, who am I to say.

That the way to salvation is to kill everyone who doesn't beleive in Allah? No. They are not right about this.

bash · Post by **bash** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:31 am

No, Z, I don't. Do you? If so, what specifically do you base that belief on? What is your opinion?

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:08 am

Don't turn this into a cock fight of whos god has a bigger ***** then the others god

Although I agree with what the judge said, I just hate how they get up on a soapbox like that. Oh well, this guy was scum. He WILL feel sorry after a while in Prison

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:47 pm

I give him two years.

bash · Post by **bash** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:09 pm

I believe Zuruck is referring to the charges Reid makes (three times in three paragraphs, no less) of Americans killing 2 million Iraqi children (the weapons claim is bogus since we only supply Turkey, AFAIK) and supporting Arab regimes Reid doesn't like (oh yea, I can see the US and Syria in bed together

), not about which religion worships the truer God. That said, I don't want to put words in Zuruck's mouth so I'll continue waiting for his opinion. It should be fascinating.

Waiting...