Cigarette smokers have lower IQs than non-smokers

For discussion of life's issues: current events, social trends and personal opinions.

Moderators: Tunnelcat, Jeff250

Post Reply
User avatar
Nightshade
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5138
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2001 2:01 am
Location: Planet Earth, USA
Contact:

Cigarette smokers have lower IQs than non-smokers

Post by Nightshade »

According to an israeli study:

NEW YORK (Reuters Life!) - Cigarette smokers have lower IQs than non-smokers, and the more a person smokes, the lower their IQ, according to a study of over 20,000 Israeli military recruits.


Dr. Mark Weiser and colleagues from Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer found that young men who smoked a pack of cigarettes a day or more had IQ scores 7.5 points lower than non-smokers.

\"Adolescents with poorer IQ scores might be targeted for programs designed to prevent smoking,\" they conclude in the journal Addiction.

While there is evidence for a link between smoking and lower IQ, many studies have relied on intelligence tests given in childhood, and have also included people with mental and behavioral problems, who are both more likely to smoke and more likely to have low IQs, Weiser and his team noted.

To better understand the smoking-IQ relationship, the researchers looked at 20,211 18-year-old men recruited into the Israeli military.

The group did not include anyone with major mental health problems, because these individuals are disqualified from military service.

According to the researchers, 28 percent of the study participants smoked at least one cigarette a day, around 3 percent said they were ex-smokers, and 68 percent had never smoked.

The smokers had significantly lower intelligence test scores than non-smokers, and this remained true even after the researchers accounted for socioeconomic status measured by how many years of formal education a recruit's father had completed.

The average IQ for non-smokers was about 101, while it was 94 for men who had started smoking before entering the military.

IQ steadily dropped as the number of cigarettes smoked increased, from 98 for people who smoked one to five cigarettes daily to 90 for those who smoked more than a pack a day.

IQ scores from 84 to 116 are considered to indicate average intelligence.

Recruits aren't allowed to smoke while intelligence tests are administered, the researchers said, so it is possible that withdrawal symptoms might affect smokers' scores.

To address this issue, they also looked at IQ scores for men who were non-smokers when they were 18 but started smoking during their military service.

These men also scored lower than never-smokers, 97 points, on average) \"indicating that nicotine withdrawal was probably not the cause of the difference,\" the researchers said.

The researchers also compared IQs for 70 pairs of brothers in the group in which one brother smoked and the other did not. Again, average IQs for the non-smoking sibling were higher than for the smokers.

The findings suggest that lower IQ individuals are more likely to choose to smoke, rather than that smoking makes people less intelligent, Weiser and his team conclude.

(Reporting by Reuters Health, Editing by Belinda Goldsmith)
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61M6SV20100223

I'm sure this will spark a hefty debate on here. :)

\"Recreational\" drugs of any kind are never good- particularly those which carry heavy addictive properties.
.
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" - Mao Zedong
User avatar
Grendel
3d Pro Master
3d Pro Master
Posts: 4390
Joined: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Corvallis OR, USA

Re: Cigarette smokers have lower IQs than non-smokers

Post by Grendel »

The findings suggest that lower IQ individuals are more likely to choose to smoke, rather than that smoking makes people less intelligent, Weiser and his team conclude.
That would have been my guess too. Wonder if the results for the smokers would change if they are allowed to smoke during the test.
ImageImage
User avatar
roid
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9996
Joined: Sun Dec 09, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Post by roid »

Did anyone else notice that those who started smoking after they joined the military, had on average 1 IQ point LESS than those who had already started smoking before they joined?
Gooberman
DBB Alumni
DBB Alumni
Posts: 6155
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 1999 3:01 am
Location: tempe Az

Post by Gooberman »

But how is this the fault of radical islam?
User avatar
Grendel
3d Pro Master
3d Pro Master
Posts: 4390
Joined: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Corvallis OR, USA

Re:

Post by Grendel »

Gooberman wrote:But how is this the fault of radical islam?
It only affects israelis maybe ? :P
ImageImage
User avatar
woodchip
DBB Benefactor
DBB Benefactor
Posts: 17865
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 1999 2:01 am

Post by woodchip »

And for all you stoner pot heads, this means you too... :P
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Re:

Post by Duper »

Gooberman wrote:But how is this the fault of radical islam?
Where does it say that?
User avatar
Will Robinson
DBB Grand Master
DBB Grand Master
Posts: 10136
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2000 3:01 am

Re:

Post by Will Robinson »

Duper wrote:
Gooberman wrote:But how is this the fault of radical islam?
Where does it say that?
Tower this is Sarcastic Jab flight 101...we have a clear path right over Dupers head...over.
Roger that Flight Sarcastic Jab....has he spotted you?
Negatory tower we are undetected...over.
Roger that flight 101...carry on with your present course.... Tower out.
:P
User avatar
Nightshade
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5138
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2001 2:01 am
Location: Planet Earth, USA
Contact:

Post by Nightshade »


But how is this the fault of radical islam?
Smoking is pretty frequent among islamists...so it might explain the rational they use a bit more. :)
.
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" - Mao Zedong
User avatar
Ferno
DBB Commie Anarchist Thug
DBB Commie Anarchist Thug
Posts: 15163
Joined: Fri Nov 20, 1998 3:01 am

Post by Ferno »

Now if TB would bother to do his due diligence instead of trying yet another straw-man argument...

he'd find this:


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... ently.html

http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T333777.html

http://www.islamfortoday.com/syed08.htm
User avatar
Nightshade
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5138
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2001 2:01 am
Location: Planet Earth, USA
Contact:

Post by Nightshade »

Fern- it is often said that all sins and former transgressions are overlooked and forgiven by allah after the jihadist is martyred or otherwise serves the greater good of \"killing the infidel.\"

Alot of suicide bombers and terrorists have been seen boozing it up and hanging out at strip bars (all of which is haram- forbidden) just days before attacking. Why should smoking be any different? After all, it's all erased from allah's books after martyrdom.

As to smoking weed- that wasn't mentioned in the study I started this thread with.

Dunno why you bring marijuana up so often. Hrm... :lol:
.
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" - Mao Zedong
User avatar
Bet51987
DBB Alumni
DBB Alumni
Posts: 2791
Joined: Sun May 30, 2004 6:54 am
Location: USA

Post by Bet51987 »

.
User avatar
Ferno
DBB Commie Anarchist Thug
DBB Commie Anarchist Thug
Posts: 15163
Joined: Fri Nov 20, 1998 3:01 am

Post by Ferno »

so what we have so far is anecdotal evidence that islamists have a lower IQ based on the accounts that the militants were seen smoking.

what you've done TB, is take an unverifiable third hand account of a group's behaviour and pass it off as fact. you've also tried to link smoking to militant behaviour. this is both dangerous, and intellectually dishonest.

unless you have actual and verifiable testimonies of witnesses observing the behaviour in question, I can't even remotely accept it as truth.

aka: \"that's BS!\"



BTW: the fact that I bring up marijuana so often only happens when people try and pass off misinformation and simply bad articles without doing any actual research. It's a horrible way of going about the subject matter because it's misleading and intellectually dishonest.
User avatar
SilverFJ
DBB Cowboy
Posts: 2043
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 1999 2:01 am
Location: Missoula, Montana
Contact:

Post by SilverFJ »

ThunderBunny wrote:Alot of suicide bombers and terrorists have been seen boozing it up and hanging out at strip bars (all of which is haram- forbidden) just days before attacking. Why should smoking be any different? After all, it's all erased from allah's books after martyrdom.
Ever see that movie "Traitor"? Talks about that in it.
User avatar
Pandora
DBB Admiral
DBB Admiral
Posts: 1715
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Bangor, Wales, UK.

Re:

Post by Pandora »

Ferno wrote:BTW: the fact that I bring up marijuana so often only happens when people try and pass off misinformation and simply bad articles without doing any actual research. It's a horrible way of going about the subject matter because it's misleading and intellectually dishonest.
I don't trust marijuana at all anymore, especially as the new breeds are so much more potent than those of my use [edit: freudian slip if ever saw one: should be "youth" - ahem]. Long term use is associated with poorer life and academic achievement. Many studies do show impairments in cognitive functioning and executive control. Others show changes in brain function and metabolism. And if you have a family history of schizophrenia, you should definately stay away from it.

But that being said, it is probably one of the safer and least disruptive drugs out there.
User avatar
Duper
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 9214
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:01 am
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA

Post by Duper »

well, I'm just glad to see we aren't the only country that gives tons of money to stupid, useless studies. :lol:
User avatar
Spidey
DBB Grand Master
DBB Grand Master
Posts: 10809
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2001 2:01 am
Location: Earth

Post by Spidey »

If that study was funded by the Israeli military…guess what…


Winston tastes good…like a cigarette should…
User avatar
woodchip
DBB Benefactor
DBB Benefactor
Posts: 17865
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 1999 2:01 am

Post by woodchip »

LS-MFT
Post Reply