I haven't read anything on this yet, so I'm sorry if what I write conflicts with other people's benchmarks.
10.04 Desktop flys on my Dell Mini10v. I only had a problem with the wifi drivers that the last few Ubuntus had no compatibility issues with. Ran a search...fixed with out using bloat-ware, like ndiswrapper.
They fixed all the problems i had with older ubuntus; when I hit the sleep button I can close the lid or press buttons with out it crashing; when I abuse compiz by using flip to compare windows, scale to search, or use the desktop wall there is no lag. I finally feel like I can push my system to meet my personal stress level when I'm trying to make a school project deadline.
As a side note, the latest version Adobe Flash has gotten much faster. I noticed this back when I was running 9.10, so this is unrelated to the first part of my post. I have no idea why Flash improved so much other than HTML5 is now threatening Flash's turf. What ever the reason is, I'm happy I can play videos on full screen with out frames dropping.
Ubuntu 10.04
I'll probably update my machines in about a week and see how things go. Have you tried the new theme? If so, what do you think? I have a feeling that, as usual, I'm going to just end up sticking with my blue Clearlooks setup.
* For instance, he regurgitates the same tired excuses for Flash's poor performance, even when people from Intel, nVidia, and gnash (an open source Flash implementation) correct him (in the case of gnash, show a working, well performing example of things that he alleges would be impossible).
Unfortunately, it's still much slower than it should be on Linux (and Mac, which I think is partly why Steve Jobs is trying to make the Flash platform go extinct, because I think he's just as sick as Linux users for having a substandard Web experience that he has no control over). For instance, the Flash linux developer (singular) is an incompetent twat*.Isaac wrote:As a side note, the latest version Adobe Flash has gotten much faster.
* For instance, he regurgitates the same tired excuses for Flash's poor performance, even when people from Intel, nVidia, and gnash (an open source Flash implementation) correct him (in the case of gnash, show a working, well performing example of things that he alleges would be impossible).
I upgraded. My only complaint is that the plymouth xubuntu theme broke. I had to mess around with the blacklists to get anything (I get these ugly blue bars during boot now) and also to get my emulated TTY1-6 working. I leave the computer on all the time, so it's mostly a non-issue.
I think everything else upgraded seamlessly. Gnome screensaver didn't like my hardware back in 9.10 and caused hard freezes. I'm happy with xscreensaver, and have no interest in finding out if gnome screensaver was fixed by now or not.
Also, Issac, if you want to see fast, hop over to xfce. It took me about 2 days to be convinced to do a clean xubuntu install... it runs noticibly faster than gnome.
I think everything else upgraded seamlessly. Gnome screensaver didn't like my hardware back in 9.10 and caused hard freezes. I'm happy with xscreensaver, and have no interest in finding out if gnome screensaver was fixed by now or not.
Also, Issac, if you want to see fast, hop over to xfce. It took me about 2 days to be convinced to do a clean xubuntu install... it runs noticibly faster than gnome.
Have I tried the new theme? You mean the new default theme it starts with or the themes you can download? I haven't messed with themes, so far. I'm still trying to get IBUS to work the way it did in 9.10 (I never do the upgrade option; I like a new copy on a clean drive. Yeah, I use the hell out of ubuntu one), because I still have a Chinese final exam to study for. But, I do like the new Apple looking default theme with the buttons on the top left. I don't think I'll change it. I don't think I changed 9.10 from the default the whole time I had it, if I remember correctly.
They did improve the scaling compiz tool: win+w (It was shift+alt+up in 9.10 by default)
I just noticed you don't have to hold it down anymore to keep everything fanned out.
I might try that snoopy, but I might wait until I'm more proficient at compiling my mini10v drivers in the terminal. It's my biggest obstacle so far. Once I understand it better, with out getting a billion errors for changing a few lines, I'll try any distro.
They did improve the scaling compiz tool: win+w (It was shift+alt+up in 9.10 by default)
I just noticed you don't have to hold it down anymore to keep everything fanned out.
I might try that snoopy, but I might wait until I'm more proficient at compiling my mini10v drivers in the terminal. It's my biggest obstacle so far. Once I understand it better, with out getting a billion errors for changing a few lines, I'll try any distro.
Oh yeah. You'll love this:
In 10.04 they decided to hide the text address bar in Nautilus. Maybe they thought people liked the icons better?
CTRL+L brings the text address bar out of hiding.
At first, I looked everywhere for an icon to bring it up, like there was in 9.10. There should be a big noob-proof button or box to click. Did they want everybody to run a search on the net in order to solve this? Who even uses those icons? My grandma knows how to use a text address like C:\\Temp\\Junk. She'd go nuts if you changed that to 3 boxes, which you can't copy to the clipboard. They serve no purpose, because even the biggest noob knows how to click on folders and use the back button. I don't know what they were thinking adding this to a Linux distro for linux users, who, above all, practice using the terminal; we love text. Sorry for ranting.
In 10.04 they decided to hide the text address bar in Nautilus. Maybe they thought people liked the icons better?
CTRL+L brings the text address bar out of hiding.
At first, I looked everywhere for an icon to bring it up, like there was in 9.10. There should be a big noob-proof button or box to click. Did they want everybody to run a search on the net in order to solve this? Who even uses those icons? My grandma knows how to use a text address like C:\\Temp\\Junk. She'd go nuts if you changed that to 3 boxes, which you can't copy to the clipboard. They serve no purpose, because even the biggest noob knows how to click on folders and use the back button. I don't know what they were thinking adding this to a Linux distro for linux users, who, above all, practice using the terminal; we love text. Sorry for ranting.
BTW Issac- xfce means no Compiz and no Nautilus... I've never had much success with Compiz or been very impressed by it. I had it removed even back when I was using gnome.
You can try xfce by installing the \"xubuntu-desktop\" package, and then picking xfce under session on the login screen. I think you have to pick your user, then pick the session that you want at the bottom of the screen (it will default to gnome), and type in your password and hit okay. (You can probably do the password first- the point is that you have to pick a user before it will let you pick a session, last I checked.)
Also, building should be completely independent of the desktop session that you use, especially between xfce and gnome, since they're both GTK+ based.
You can try xfce by installing the \"xubuntu-desktop\" package, and then picking xfce under session on the login screen. I think you have to pick your user, then pick the session that you want at the bottom of the screen (it will default to gnome), and type in your password and hit okay. (You can probably do the password first- the point is that you have to pick a user before it will let you pick a session, last I checked.)
Also, building should be completely independent of the desktop session that you use, especially between xfce and gnome, since they're both GTK+ based.
I've been watching this thread silently. Been debating on going ahead and upgrading to the new version on my Ubuntu system, but have held off a little bit to see how others fare with it. My only concern with my system is with the NVIDIA drivers for my laptop. That's the only hardware item the version 9 distros even had any trouble with.
What do you think? Should I wait a little longer? Or go for it?
What do you think? Should I wait a little longer? Or go for it?
Snoopy, I'm dependent on those things at the moment, but I'll grow out of them eventually. 9.10 + compiz gave me the tools to do good at school this semester. That sounds silly, but it's true. I look forward to Summer 1 & 2 with 10.04. I might not even upgrade to 10.10.
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My brother thinks compiz is a joke, but he has an ATI card...so... ya know..
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My brother thinks compiz is a joke, but he has an ATI card...so... ya know..
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Just wait. You didn't mention anything that you wanted or needed that this new Ubuntu version has. Are there any unsupported devices or problems you are having with your current version? If not then the right choice is to not bother upgrading.TechPro wrote: What do you think? Should I wait a little longer? Or go for it?
Why doesn't it work?
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I only upgraded for the LTS. I intend to stay at this version until the support ends.Xamindar wrote:Just wait. You didn't mention anything that you wanted or needed that this new Ubuntu version has. Are there any unsupported devices or problems you are having with your current version? If not then the right choice is to not bother upgrading.TechPro wrote: What do you think? Should I wait a little longer? Or go for it?
I ran into this issue on my primary laptop:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... mments=all
The rest of my boxes seem to work fine so far. Overall, it seems to be a net win. The only other inconvenience is that the lhs2tex package seems to have disappeared from their repositories, but I just yanked the latest one from debian.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... mments=all
The rest of my boxes seem to work fine so far. Overall, it seems to be a net win. The only other inconvenience is that the lhs2tex package seems to have disappeared from their repositories, but I just yanked the latest one from debian.
Yeah. Left-handed close/minimize/maximize buttons are not for me.Jeff250 wrote:I have a feeling that, as usual, I'm going to just end up sticking with my blue Clearlooks setup.
A wise decision. I'd say the same, except I usually get suckered into upgrading to get the latest version of $MY_FAVORITE_APP.snoopy wrote:I only upgraded for the LTS. I intend to stay at this version until the support ends.
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Yeah. I generally disliked the conversion over to pulseaudio, and starting leaning more toward the philosophy of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."Jeff250 wrote:A wise decision. I'd say the same, except I usually get suckered into upgrading to get the latest version of $MY_FAVORITE_APP.
Right, the first two things I disable are pulseaudio and compiz. Like the package description for metacity says:
I'm probably not a lot of fun at parties.As the author says, metacity is a \"Boring window manager for the adult in
you. Many window managers are like Marshmallow Froot Loops; Metacity is
like Cheerios.\"
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....But you're fast & more stable.Jeff250 wrote:Right, the first two things I disable are pulseaudio and compiz. Like the package description for metacity says:
I'm probably not a lot of fun at parties.As the author says, metacity is a "Boring window manager for the adult in
you. Many window managers are like Marshmallow Froot Loops; Metacity is
like Cheerios."