European failures upset at US
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European failures upset at US
Europe's media is upset that the citizens of the United States didn't want to follow through on Obama's European emulation of their leftist/socialist model.
Like Michelle Obama once mentioned in a speech she gave, \"For (not the) first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country (again.)\"
I just hope that this mid term repudiation endures and we restore some sense of sensibility to our political leaders.
Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.
Europeans React to Pummeling of Dems in Midterm Elections:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/europeans- ... elections/
Like Michelle Obama once mentioned in a speech she gave, \"For (not the) first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country (again.)\"
I just hope that this mid term repudiation endures and we restore some sense of sensibility to our political leaders.
Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.
Europeans React to Pummeling of Dems in Midterm Elections:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/europeans- ... elections/
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Re: European failures upset at US
Evidence? And that birth rate video doesn't count for this, that just shows they're not screwing enough.ThunderBunny wrote: Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history.
Re: European failures upset at US
Guess you didn't actually read what you linked ? You should. If you did, I have no idea how you came to those conclusions.ThunderBunny wrote:Europe's media is upset that the citizens of the United States didn't want to follow through on Obama's European emulation of their leftist/socialist model. [..]
Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.
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iawtcGrendel wrote:Guess you didn't actually read what you linked ? You should. If you did, I have no idea how you came to those conclusions.
The return of the lefties.
Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.
It's never good to wake up in the shrubs naked, you either got way too drunk, or your azz is a werewolf.
Re: The return of the lefties.
Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.
Re: The return of the lefties.
x2 on that!null0010 wrote:Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.
Re: The return of the lefties.
Moderates in general are getting stomped as of late because of how much extremism is being injected into American politics.null0010 wrote:Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.
Re: The return of the lefties.
This is one way to rationalize how they got curb stomped.null0010 wrote:Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.
Re: The return of the lefties.
Wrong.Mjolnir wrote:x2 on that!null0010 wrote:Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.AlphaDoG wrote:Looks like we have more lefties of late. I would hate to think it's because they got stomped recently.
Russ Feingold.
Ike Skelton.
John Spratt.
Jim Oberstar.
Carol Shea-Porter .
shall I go on?
According to wikipedia, Feingold is ranked 6th in the Senate for bipartisan voting. Plus he worked with McCain on that campaign finance bill.
Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.
According to wiki, again: For his work in Congress, Spratt has won praise from The State, which called him \"one of his party's most reliable 'bridges' to the Republican side.\"
Representative Oberstar is a pro-life Democrat. Oberstar showed his full support in 2005-2006 to the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).
Carol Shea-Porter was a member of the populist caucus of Congressional Democrats. The Tea Party is largely populist.
Good ol' extremist elections.
Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.
According to wiki, again: For his work in Congress, Spratt has won praise from The State, which called him \"one of his party's most reliable 'bridges' to the Republican side.\"
Representative Oberstar is a pro-life Democrat. Oberstar showed his full support in 2005-2006 to the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).
Carol Shea-Porter was a member of the populist caucus of Congressional Democrats. The Tea Party is largely populist.
Good ol' extremist elections.
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The age of the voters really made the difference between the last 2 elections.
2008 - 65 and older, 15% of the electorate.
2010 - 65 and older, 25% of the electorate.
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2008 - 18 to 29, 18% of the electorate.
2010 - 18 to 29, 10% of the electorate.
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First time voters:
2008 - 11%
2010 - 3%
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/election ... 69398.html
It was the older more conservative voters combined with younger voter apathy towards a leaderless Obama that brought in more conservatives this time. So what does a clueless Obama do, go into KUMBAYA MODE after his \"shellacking\" by misinterpreting WHY his apathetic base stayed home this time by doing WHAT..........insisting (or maybe praying) that working with hopelessly intransigent Republicans will work this time! OBAMA IS AN IDIOT!
2008 - 65 and older, 15% of the electorate.
2010 - 65 and older, 25% of the electorate.
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2008 - 18 to 29, 18% of the electorate.
2010 - 18 to 29, 10% of the electorate.
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First time voters:
2008 - 11%
2010 - 3%
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/election ... 69398.html
It was the older more conservative voters combined with younger voter apathy towards a leaderless Obama that brought in more conservatives this time. So what does a clueless Obama do, go into KUMBAYA MODE after his \"shellacking\" by misinterpreting WHY his apathetic base stayed home this time by doing WHAT..........insisting (or maybe praying) that working with hopelessly intransigent Republicans will work this time! OBAMA IS AN IDIOT!
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I would say for a firstt time foray into the political realm as a "party" they did pretty good. they control 10% of the Senate and almost the same in the House. that alone is enough of a force to influence the policies of Washington.tunnelcat wrote:Well, there was one bright spot. Almost all the crazy Tea Party candidates LOST!
Not to mention they scared the living hell out of Harry Reid, that alone was worth them running for me
SENATE - 10 TOTAL
5 WON - 50% of Tea Party candidates won
PA- Pat Toomey
KY- Rand Paul
FL- Marco Rubio
WI- Ron Johnson
UT- Mike Lee
4 LOST - 40% of Tea Party candidates lost
DE- Christine O’Donnell
NV- Sharron Angle
WV- John Raese
CO- Ken Buck
1 UNDECIDED
AK- Joe Miller
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HOUSE - 130 TOTAL
40 WON - 31% of Tea Party candidates won
82 LOST - 63% of Tea Party candidates lost
8 UNDECIDED
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We dont need to prove your wrong. because you cant prove your right. and what a ignorant statementTC wrote:Most, NOT ALL, older, white Americans, are on average, richer, retired (afraid of losing their wealth), Christian, socially conservative and xenophobic. Prove me wrong.
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Apathy probably played a big part, I agree, but not so much directed at Obama but at government in general. In 08 a lot of younger voters were energized into believing that government could work, if only we participated. What happens so far? Government doesn't really do anything all that important, and in fact focuses on something that really should have been on the back burner. End result is that those youths energized in 08 get a hard lesson in the fact that our government is just plain disfunctional, and a vote for either party is kind of a wash because voting for either just really leads to more partisan bickering. Its not just Obama that's leaderless, its Congress that's gutless and SCOTUS that sucks the big fat multibillion dollar wangs of big business.tunnelcat wrote: It was the older more conservative voters combined with younger voter apathy towards a leaderless Obama that brought in more conservatives this time.
Government in general is disfunctional, and I think a lot of youths, who have grown up on the internet and bothered to pay any attention at all have figured this out a lot earlier than a lot of the previous generations, and it, in my estimation, leaves them with a feeling of "why bother? my vote isn't going to fix anything".
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but they weren't considered "blue dogs" now, were they? Oh, and LOL at the comparison of a "populist" Democrat caucus to the Tea Party's "populism".null0010 wrote:According to wikipedia, Feingold is ranked 6th in the Senate for bipartisan voting. Plus he worked with McCain on that campaign finance bill.
Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.
According to wiki, again: For his work in Congress, Spratt has won praise from The State, which called him "one of his party's most reliable 'bridges' to the Republican side."
Representative Oberstar is a pro-life Democrat. Oberstar showed his full support in 2005-2006 to the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).
Carol Shea-Porter was a member of the populist caucus of Congressional Democrats. The Tea Party is largely populist.
Good ol' extremist elections.
And I forgot to list Alan Grayson - what lipstick would you like to put on that porker?
Re: European failures upset at US
lol. now you're just making stuff up.ThunderBunny wrote:Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.
I got about four examples that can prove you wrong. and they're all older and white americans.TC wrote: Most, NOT ALL, older, white Americans, are on average, richer, retired (afraid of losing their wealth), Christian, socially conservative and xenophobic. Prove me wrong.
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I never said those were "Blue Dogs," I was showing how they swung moderate.dissent wrote:but they weren't considered "blue dogs" now, were they? Oh, and LOL at the comparison of a "populist" Democrat caucus to the Tea Party's "populism".null0010 wrote:According to wikipedia, Feingold is ranked 6th in the Senate for bipartisan voting. Plus he worked with McCain on that campaign finance bill.
Ike Skelton is fairly conservative on social issues. He opposes abortion and gun control, and helped craft the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.
According to wiki, again: For his work in Congress, Spratt has won praise from The State, which called him "one of his party's most reliable 'bridges' to the Republican side."
Representative Oberstar is a pro-life Democrat. Oberstar showed his full support in 2005-2006 to the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).
Carol Shea-Porter was a member of the populist caucus of Congressional Democrats. The Tea Party is largely populist.
Good ol' extremist elections.
And I forgot to list Alan Grayson - what lipstick would you like to put on that porker?
And Grayson? He wanted to help Ron Paul audit the Federal Reserve, tried to compromise on health care with the Public Option Act, and voted to give yet more money to the Defense Department.
Re: The return of the lefties.
upthread you said -
That's what I responded to with my post.null0010 wrote:Only the blue dogs got really smashed. And no one liked them anyways.
Re: European failures upset at US
Only about four examples?? S___, I can get you thousands of examples. You can find a lot of them anywhere in the U.S.Ferno wrote:lol. now you're just making stuff up.ThunderBunny wrote:Europe is failing and fading from western civilization. Europeans are actually ashamed of being themselves and would rather subside and decay into the dustbin of history. They're actually shocked that Americans don't want to do the same.
I got about four examples that can prove you wrong. and they're all older and white americans.TC wrote: Most, NOT ALL, older, white Americans, are on average, richer, retired (afraid of losing their wealth), Christian, socially conservative and xenophobic. Prove me wrong.
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Is this the first mid-term election you've ever paid attention to? Every time it's the people who say, "the people in power haven't fixed every problem in America yet, we have to vote them out; let's put the opposition party in power," and the people who are saying "there hasn't been enough time yet!"dissent wrote:Dream on, if you don't think those were unexpected upsets of incumbents.
Whenever there's major problems in the country, the party in power gets gutted come election time. In '08 the Republipoop got gutted and in '10 since the same problems were still festering, the Democraps get carved up. If the problems are still festering in '12 I have no freaking idea what will happen beyond Obama being replaced, and I have no idea if that will be by a Republipoop upstart, or a challenger from within the Democrap party who wins the endorsement because he gets people to believe Obama isn't liberal enough, or ended up compromising too much with the DnR's other head.