Virus problems Kaaza Aim? Slow computer

thewolfe · Post by **thewolfe** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:31 am

Virus problems Kaaza Aim? Slow computer

Just helped a friend purchase a new Dell Dimension.

His kids downloaded Kaaza and the Aim which I think has to do with instant messaging and AOL.

Within 3 days the computer is barley running. Have found some viruses and still have "Downloader" I haven't removed yet.

Would Kaaza and or Aim cause the computer to run so slow?

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:50 am

backdoors, virii, spyware.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Thu May 06, 2004 5:43 pm

ouch...

Sounds like ol'Dad just got pwnd.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Thu May 06, 2004 7:23 pm

Remove all that crap, then tell DAD to password his account, and create a limited account for the kids. no more BS

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Thu May 06, 2004 7:37 pm

Kazaa caused it. AIM itself is slow, but if it's not running, it doesn't slow down the machine or install any spyware/adware.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Thu May 06, 2004 7:39 pm

Ad-aware:
http://www.lavasoft.de

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Thu May 06, 2004 8:27 pm

BUBBALOU wrote:Remove all that crap, then tell DAD to password his account, and create a limited account for the kids. no more BS

And to blacklist kazaa via his hosts file to keep the morons from downloading it again. (They don't sound too bright to begin with so that should keep them from getting it.)

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Thu May 06, 2004 9:57 pm

Normal Kazaa is a filty spyware ridden program. Unless you cna find a copy of Kazaa Lite you should absolutely not even consider using Kazaa.

WinMX is a decent alternative, it comes spyware free. Nice and compact too.

The latest version of AIM includes some questionable programs. Weatherbug is one of them. I had to force my room mate to uninstall weather bug because I do not want any spyware operating on my own little network.

Password the administrator account. Create neutered accounts for the kids, and blacklist kazaa's site to keep them from trying to download it. It would be a good idea to not let them use ANY p2p application because they probably dont know how to unshare things, and they might be sharing something remotely sensitive that you have on the drive.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Fri May 07, 2004 5:41 am

Ok let me post this for the record since the posters above are oblivious, a Limited account can NOT install software that effects the entire computer or alter any system files, nor can they alter any files to which they did not create.

Now go follow my first post REMOVE THAT CRAP clean the puter, then create a kids limited account and have POP password HIS account.

Dad will be happy

kids will be pissed

but will learn there place, if kids want software installed they have to ask dad to do it for them.

End the cycle of stupidity!

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Fri May 07, 2004 6:56 am

What bubba forgot is that the Power User account type still has the ability to install software.

Your kids account will require an account with guest(standard 'User') level-access.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Fri May 07, 2004 8:31 pm

Vader wrote:What bubba forgot is that the Power User account type still has the ability to install software.

Actually VADER that is Incorrect

A Limited User on a NEW (as in XP) Computer account defaults to a User Group ONLY .... you alter the attributes of the account as stated below

...but...that...is...the...default....setting

NOT a Power User as you state

Guest group... is deactivated for a good reason and should only be for intranet (closed network access)

Anyways if you really want to manage Users your can right click on "My Computer" Select manage and drill down into "Local Users and Groups" and have fun...be carefull though!

Administrator (XP Default and replicated in User group for common XP logon): Administrators have complete and unrestricted access to the computer/domain

Power User : (not a default for any group)Power Users possess most administrative powers with some restrictions. Thus, Power Users can run legacy applications in addition to certified applications

User : (XP Limited Account) Users are prevented from making accidental or intentional system-wide changes. Thus, Users can run certified applications, but not most legacy applications

Guest : Guests have the same access as members of the Users group by default, except for the Guest account which is further restricted

Have fun with this one thewolfe

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Fri May 07, 2004 9:17 pm

Technically a Power User type user is limited.

Ive only used XP a few times so I dont know what it defaulted to, so mine was ageneric advisory IN CASE it for some reason defaulted to the creation of a Power User.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Fri May 07, 2004 11:41 pm

Sorry Vader, but you're dead wrong. XP defaults to "User" when you create a limited account.

As you can clearly see, it defaulted to "User". I can replicate this on any machine in the house on both 2000 and XP. You have to SPECIFICALLY select "Power User" when you create an account through "Computer Management".

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Sat May 08, 2004 1:59 am

I never knew that page even existed in XP until now

So piss off, damn you!

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Sat May 08, 2004 6:36 am

It's ok Vader we still love you. most people using their computer based off of some type of NT kernel( NT4/2k/XP ) dont even know they can create another login let alone restrict it

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Sat May 08, 2004 7:09 am

Ive created plenty of other logins, just never from there

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Sat May 08, 2004 7:51 pm

Getting back on topic here, I suggest you run Hijack THIS! on that computer and post the log it generates.