Now THIS is evil government!

[Tunnelcat]

Past medical experiments on people that had no rights or say in their welfare, that happened in the U.S.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110227/ap_ ... _on_humans

[Foil]

Holy %^&*, that's scary stuff. At least these things are being put up for discussion, rather than being lost and forgotten.

[Nightshade]

Yep- pretty horrible stuff. You would think this sort of thing were confined to the likes of Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, NK or China...but it has happened here.

It's far too easy to dehumanize people. The value of human life is nil- even to other human beings.

[SilverFJ]

The near-constant fact for most people is that most people's lives are nil compared to their own

[Heretic]

Think about this next time you run out to get a flu shot the government wants you to have.

[Foil]

Think about this next time you run out to get a flu shot the government wants you to have.

No, quite the opposite.

Flu shots save lives. On the other hand, the absolutely unfounded anti-flu-shot propaganda out there is responsible for easily-preventable death and disease. I think the latter is the better comparison.

[Note: If there is demand for a topic to debate flu shots, please start a new thread.]

[Isaac]

Think about this next time you run out to get a flu shot the government wants you to have.

/tinfoil hat

[null0010]

I don't get flu shots because I've never had the flu, and I rarely get sick in general.

[woodchip]

40-80 year old news ? Don't know what shoe box you been hiding in TC but this stuff has been reported on years and years ago already.

[Heretic]

So nice to see some people still can't see sarcasm when it is typed.

[SilverFJ]

I guess I'm the only "looney" that thinks flu shots are bad. I haven't had a flu shot since I was 6. The only flu I've had in my life was when I recieved said shot. I've taken care of family members and girlfriends when they had their flu's and I never caught them. But then again, I've been large, strong, and farm-built healthy for most of my life too... Maybe innoculation will be neccessary if I get old. But I refuse to use anti-bacterial soap or Purell or stuff like that either. I'd rather be subjected to deseise and beat it than kill it before it gets to me.

[Tunnelcat]

40-80 year old news ? Don't know what shoe box you been hiding in TC but this stuff has been reported on years and years ago already.

Sure, I've known about something like this for years, but not in this scope or detail. Since there was a recent government apology, to a foreign nation no less, and a presidential bioethics commission meeting about the matter, more information seems to be coming to light about this sordid affair and coverup.

I was only posting this as an example of a truly evil thing that our government actually did in the past.

[Tunnelcat]

I'd rather be subjected to deseise and beat it than kill it before it gets to me.

Well, there is some truth to that. Research has found that people that lived in super clean houses as children were far more likely to develop asthma and allergies as adults. Apparently, the immune system needs to keep fit by fighting the common bugs we are exposed to everyday.

But I'm willing to bet you've had a polio, measles, mumps, tetanus or smallpox vaccine at one time. You definitely don't want to get one of those little buggers. They're either nasty or fatal, or in the case of mumps, not a pleasant experience for adult males, and humans have greatly benefited by getting vaccinations against them.

[Burlyman]

Think about this next time you run out to get a flu shot the government wants you to have.

/tinfoil hat

don't be a nuub that's an order soldier

/Punch Reversal Catch Slam

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