Heat wave

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:54 pm

Just checked National Weather for my area and it is 99 deg. (Michigan) How are the rest of you holding up?

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:16 pm

I have to bring a jacket and and beenie because all the rooms on campus are freaking freezing, no matter how hot it is outside. *Warming my hands on my laptop* In the winter its the exact opposite.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:46 pm

The last two weeks up here in Fargo it was between 91 and 100+ with heat indexes up to 115.

Today its a downright bearable 85. My AC isn't working nearly as hard anymore

TigerRaptor · Post by **TigerRaptor** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:56 pm

95 to a 100 degree weather here. Haven't had the chance to bike or jog this week.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:08 pm

Your guy's misery is our air-conditioned summer. We've had only temps up into the 70's and a few 80's with a few days of light rain here in the NW. Almost a bummer, but I'm not griping. That big high pressure area in the middle of the country doesn't want to move, so you guys get roasted.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:21 pm

tunnelcat wrote:Your guy's misery is our air-conditioned summer. We've had only temps up into the 70's and a few 80's with a few days of light rain here in the NW. Almost a bummer, but I'm not griping. That big high pressure area in the middle of the country doesn't want to move, so you guys get roasted.

I think I can speak for everyone east of the rockies when I say "★■◆● you" and "the west coast doesn't count".

CDN_Merlin · Post by **CDN_Merlin** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:41 pm

114f or 47c here. I roller bladed home today

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:56 pm

Avder wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:Your guy's misery is our air-conditioned summer. We've had only temps up into the 70's and a few 80's with a few days of light rain here in the NW. Almost a bummer, but I'm not griping. That big high pressure area in the middle of the country doesn't want to move, so you guys get roasted.
I think I can speak for everyone east of the rockies when I say "**** you" and "the west coast doesn't count".

I wasn't gloating per se, well, maybe a little.

You'll get your schadenfreude come August, when we usually bake on the West Coast and the forests burn.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:54 pm

I didn't set a toe outside today. I considered it a wise choice.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:06 am

Holding up fine, don't think we've broken 80 degrees this year, around 60-70 as of late, plenty of cloud cover, occasional light rain. It's basically still spring. But I'd rather have this than long stretches of 100+ weather. It's at least tolerable.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:10 am

Only 100 degrees? Noobs.

Flatlander · Post by **Flatlander** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:21 am

Normal summer weather down here in Floriduh.

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:43 am

GA is hitting upper 90's and mid 70's at night

whats the deal with Minnesota ?

Thenior · Post by **Thenior** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:54 am

In the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, around 95, but so humid.

I'm used to dry west coast heat.

dissent · Post by **dissent** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:28 pm

It's a "heat dome", y'all.

"When a high pressure system develops in the upper atmosphere, the air below it sinks and compresses because there's more weight on top, causing temperatures in the lower atmosphere to heat up," he tells the news agency. "The dome of high pressure also pushes the jet stream and its drier, cooler air, farther north — it's now well into Canada — while hot, humid air from the Gulf of Mexico circulates clockwise around the dome, traveling farther inland than normal."

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:45 pm

D'ohme!

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:48 pm

dissent wrote:It's a "heat dome", y'all.

aka hurricane force field.

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:04 pm

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:25 am

supposed to be hot in Portland today. the hottest day of the Year, a high of 85

flip · Post by **flip** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:54 am

Yeah high 90's here in GA. I've been taking my boys out for yard work around 1:30 for 2-3 hours. The 15 year old puked and the 11 year old said he was having a heart attack. LOL. Stay in school boys and girls

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Avder · Post by **Avder** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:19 am

flip wrote:Yeah high 90's here in GA. I've been taking my boys out for yard work around 1:30 for 2-3 hours. The 15 year old puked and the 11 year old said he was having a heart attack. LOL. Stay in school boys and girls .

I am not a doctor, but heat stroke is a very real thing.

fliptw · Post by **fliptw** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:49 am

Yes, can be very fatal.

flip · Post by **flip** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:04 pm

Heh yep. I've worked in it all my life and I was barely sweating that day, but If you stay hydrated you'll do ok. The oldest one learned to drink more slowly next time

Thenior · Post by **Thenior** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:41 pm

Seriously - if you're in Phoenix with the dry weather, then fine. But places like GA, you're body can't cool off. People die fairly often from it.

flip · Post by **flip** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:20 pm

Yeah that's why people should acclimate themselves to it. You think it's hot now? You should frame up all the outside walls on a house while the sun beats down on you. Temps jump up considerably then. Easily 130 degrees. Work for 30 minutes and break for 15

. My kids will not die from being weak and normal summer exposure and even though it's hot as hell here, everyday they last longer in it. The problem is not the heat, it's people not knowing how to deal with it. Drink plenty of fluids and never let yourself dry up. When you start feeling dizzy, go find a waterhose and soak your neck for a few minutes, good as new

. I hope to accomplish 2 things with this, First and foremost, that my kids will hate hard work and stay in school with a real sense of what that kind of work means. Second, that they don't become so damn weak that they fall over and die just from going outside when it's hot. I've spent over 23 years in the hot georgia summer and in single digit cold while the wind was blaring. The cold hurts worse

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:59 pm

Uhhh....again, I am not a doctor, but if you are starting to feel dizzy, you are pushing yourself too hard in the heat.

flip · Post by **flip** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:01 pm

Lol, yep. It's called feeding the family. Get used to it. I've had many a college graduate that couldn't find a job working for me and I've killed no one yet

I have had them whine, hide and complain like bitches though. Dude it's the weather and the climate, if you can't hack it move to better conditions, otherwise, get being a pussy and make your self able to cope with it. That means your gonna have to be uncomfortable for awhile until your able to withstand it.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:16 am

Flip, that's the same attitude that's seen football players collapse and die on the practice field from heat stroke. Your body gives you warning signs for a reason, and ignoring them is the absolute worst thing you can do. "Making yourself" do something that can easily cause you severe physical harm is asinine.

flip · Post by **flip** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:12 am

Lol, TG, you are something else. You have no idea what your talking about, yet call me asinine. WHATACUNTRY. LOL. It's called conditioning, and I never said ignore warning signs. I told you in 23 years, probably longer than you have been alive, I have killed no one

. Dude, you should really stress yourself against those that have, you would find it humbling for sure. Is walking a 2x4 wall 3 stories in the air asinine too? because thats how your damn house got built, by people who "make themselves" do ★■◆● most others are too chicken ★■◆● to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtqUNEKXdg

Yall can kiss my country ass

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:23 am

flip wrote:Lol, TG, you are something else. You have no idea what your talking about, yet call me asinine. WHATACUNTRY. LOL. It's called conditioning, and I never said ignore warning signs. I told you in 23 years, probably longer than you have been alive, I have killed no one . Dude, you should really stress yourself against those that have, you would find it humbling for sure. Is walking a 2x4 wall 3 stories in the air asinine too? because thats how your damn house got built, by people who "make themselves" do ★■◆● most others are too chicken ★■◆● to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtqUNEKXdg

Yall can kiss my country ass

No, TG is right. If youre pushing the kids that hard, to the point where theyre starting to get dizzy, you are pushing them to far. Getting dizzy means damage is being done somewhere such that something in their head isnt functioning right. The automotive equivalent would be redlining it. Sure you'll get more power and performance, but you'll end up blowing something out. And yes, conditioning is all well and good, but there is a point where you push too far, too fast. Slow the ★■◆● down and cut out the "country" toughness ego bull★■◆●. One of these days it will come back to haunt you.

flip · Post by **flip** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:04 am

How can TG be right? I would bet neither one of you have an idea what it's like to work in the heat. Probably as soon as it gets hot, you run to yo momma's couch with some iced tea and play video games all day. When yall are all grown up, you will realize that the power company don't give a ★■◆● how hot it is. You guys are soft, admit it.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:01 am

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:19 am

I've worked plenty out in the heat and I can handle myself framing, roofing, digging, trimming, or pushing a mower even in the upper 90s with high humidity, no wind and no shade. So that means that everyone, regardless of how physically (un)fit they are must also be able to do the same.

Flip, did you also teach your kids how to swim by throwing them into the ocean with an anchor? And do you plan on teaching them to drive by handing them the keys and telling them to get on the LA freeway during rush hour?

Managing ones body temperature is part of the job when you are working in extreme conditions. Perhaps if you had actually taught them how to properly match their pace to their physical fitness so they could work without compromising their safety we wouldn't be calling your bull★■◆●.

flip · Post by **flip** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:45 am

Well, first off your calling is ★■◆●, because you don't know ★■◆●. You guys assume you know more than you do and that makes me laugh at you

. My kids are doing fine and wont end up like all you pussies

LOL. I would bet 100 dollars none of you even have kids or have had anybody under your charge. You think it's easy to get people moving when it's hot? I started framing when I was 15, same age as my oldest is now. From morning till afternoon, hot or cold, I was there. I think it's funny as hell how riled you guys get over me saying I make my kids work 2-3 hours in the heat. I know your type. You last about 1 day and then quit because you can't hack it. It's too cold or too hot and my head hurts or some other weakass excuse, and then wanna jump my ass, WHO REALLY KNOWS, because I have CONTINUOUS YEARS in the weather. You guys are ridiculous thinking you know something about ★■◆● you have never done. Carry on.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:05 am

Flip, I worked with my Dad in heat for multiple entire summers when I was a teenager. One week in particular I remember it being 110°F+ and humid every day.

There's a huge difference between:

"Dad, I'm hot! Why won't you go lemme stop for a while?!" (whining, he'd tell me to keep working)
"Dad, I'm starting to feel kinda dizzy..." (danger sign, he'd tell me to go get some water and find shade).

My Dad knew the difference.

flip · Post by **flip** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:18 am

Yeah and so do I. This went off on a tangent at "my kids wrok in the sun". All the rest were assumptions based on personal experience I guess.

It's called conditioning, and I never said ignore warning signs

Is this unreasonable?

people should acclimate themselves

Does acclimate sound like throwing someone in the deep end?

Work for 30 minutes and break for 15

does this sound unreasonable?

When you start feeling dizzy, go find a waterhose and soak your neck for a few minutes, good as new

Does this sound unreasonable? Considering I've had to do this daily in the summer for years, I usually recognize it right away, which is why i told my son to go get a drink, his guzzling the water (noob mistake) is what made him throw it back up, but I said that too. I'm done answering unfounded assumptions that are actually dispelled by my own previously written words. I will add this. If you have not worked outside for many years, that makes me the expert here:) and I guess bruised my ego a little because I know EXACTLY what to do and how to do it. I was just making a little comment about using the heat to toughen and wisen my kids up a little bit, and everyone jumps to conclusions that they know exactly what's up. It's ridiculous.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:12 pm

Well then next time you go to tell a story don't make it sound like "Haha I made my kids work in the heat till they almost collapsed from heat exhaustion." because when its told that way it isn't funny.

flip · Post by **flip** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:41 pm

Whatever youngster, next time, don't jump to conclusions and be a dumbass by assuming I would actually take my children that I love and try and actually kill them. Most, having a little age, experience and kids of their own, probably understood right away what I was saying. Don't take your frustrations out on me.

flip · Post by **flip** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:56 pm

Let me put this another way so I don't seem to be an ★■◆●. You guys are trying to tell me, someone who is at least a few years older than you and has worked in the sun for some 20 odd years, that heat exhaustion kills. Yeah, no ★■◆●. Next time I assume it's a lighthearted comment. If I talk politics,everybody clams up and won't say ★■◆●

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:18 pm

So how about that heat, eh?