Hi people, wanted to share a concern and say hi

[callmeslick]

[Will Robinson]

wow!, Will was right.......well, sort of:

"Hundreds of students at the University of Mississippi — aka Ole Miss — staged an impromptu demonstration against President Barack Obama’s re-election late Tuesday night, with conflicting reports on the number of people involved.

The Jackson Clarion-Ledger reported that about 200 people gathered in a parking lot outside a freshman dormitory, ....

Wow quite a rowdy bunch huh?!? That's what you get when you don't infect their sense of self at an early age and keep it festering all the way through adulthood with an incredibly outrageous level of poisonous hate and bigotry towards others.

I guess that's why I didn't bother to post a warning about what might happen if Obama won....

Thanks for providing the contrast.

[callmeslick]

wow!, Will was right.......well, sort of:

"Hundreds of students at the University of Mississippi — aka Ole Miss — staged an impromptu demonstration against President Barack Obama’s re-election late Tuesday night, with conflicting reports on the number of people involved.

The Jackson Clarion-Ledger reported that about 200 people gathered in a parking lot outside a freshman dormitory, ....

Wow quite a rowdy bunch huh?!? That's what you get when you don't infect their sense of self at an early age and keep it festering all the way through adulthood with an incredibly outrageous level of poisonous hate and bigotry towards others.

I guess that's why I didn't bother to post a warning about what might happen if Obama won....

Thanks for providing the contrast.

those who bothered to follow the link to the whole story would have seen the details of racist slurs, burning and otherwise destroying the properties of others, etc. I guess by 'punks' that you referred to in your blatantly racist 'warning' note, you really meant 'White Frat-Boys' right, Will.

[Will Robinson]

[...
those who bothered to follow the link to the whole story would have seen the details of racist slurs, burning and otherwise destroying the properties of others, etc. I guess by 'punks' that you referred to in your blatantly racist 'warning' note, you really meant 'White Frat-Boys' right, Will.

You aren't seriously trying to equate frat boys burning a campaign sign and murmuring "★■◆●" with the kind of murderous behavior we both know I was referring to?!? Are you?!?

The kind of bigotry you are trying resurrect from our history has been bred and reasoned out of today's young white people. And you know damn well the crux of my comments is that the exact opposite is currently being done in the stewardship of a large segment of black Americans as a whole by community agitators they are taught to respect and elect. The race-pimps are hard at it and they don't care how many people, black and white, are tossed under their campaign bus to reach their goal.

[Top Gun]

The kind of bigotry you are trying resurrect from our history has been bred and reasoned out of today's young white people.

*cough*bull★■◆●*cough*

[callmeslick]

[...
those who bothered to follow the link to the whole story would have seen the details of racist slurs, burning and otherwise destroying the properties of others, etc. I guess by 'punks' that you referred to in your blatantly racist 'warning' note, you really meant 'White Frat-Boys' right, Will.

You aren't seriously trying to equate frat boys burning a campaign sign and murmuring "★■◆●" with the kind of murderous behavior we both know I was referring to?!? Are you?!?

so, you are suggesting that an Obama loss would bring on a murderous rampage on college campus towns? Get real, and try to rejoin the twenty-first century. That sort of thinking is one step away from, "put on the robes, boys, we're ridin' tonight!". Oh, and in case you are still unsure of what I feel about it, it's disgusting.

The kind of bigotry you are trying resurrect from our history has been bred and reasoned out of today's young white people.

which, apparently isn't enough to prevent you from trying to keep the flame alive in your own family, huh?

And you know damn well the crux of my comments is that the exact opposite is currently being done in the stewardship of a large segment of black Americans as a whole by community agitators they are taught to respect and elect. The race-pimps are hard at it and they don't care how many people, black and white, are tossed under their campaign bus to reach their goal.

Put on the robes, boys, we're ridin' tonight. Yee-haw!! As a proud and distant relative of both Robert E Lee and Thomas J. Jackson, I am embarrassed at what their proud struggle has left as a legacy.

[Will Robinson]

The kind of bigotry you are trying resurrect from our history has been bred and reasoned out of today's young white people.

*cough******cough*

Ok, let's try a little experiment in the context of my assertions that you are challenging shall we?
So search the Internet and post all the news stories about 14 to 35 year old white boys lynching or murdering or viciously beating the crap out of people. Go ahead and use all you can find from the last decade and I will post 10x that many news stories of black youths of that same age group and probably only have to go back a month or two and probably get all I need just from Obama's hometown!

I know it bothers some of you to face the truth.....I take pleasure from being the one who can set you free.

[callmeslick]

so gang violence(Chicago) equates to racial attacks. Nice dodge. Keep digging, Will, that hole is just getting deeper. You sure are enlightening us, but likely not about much beyond your own character.

[flip]

Hehe, I knew it . Too much information is dangerous in the wrong hands

[Will Robinson]

...
so, you are suggesting that an Obama loss would bring on a murderous rampage on college campus towns?

No, I suggested there could be incidents of 'revenge' where random people, most likely white, will be targeted by black youths that feel their attacks are justified by their anger. An anger that they are being taught to carry like a badge of honor.

My concern is born from numerous recent events of violence like I just described not from your wishful and pathetic assertion that it is only because I'm some throwback to the klan:

An example: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/2 ... 47295.html
Another: http://www.gainesville.com/article/2012 ... /120409617

Get real, and try to rejoin the twenty-first century.

Check the date on the story I linked....I think you will find it was this year....

As a proud and distant relative of both Robert E Lee and Thomas J. Jackson, I am embarrassed at what their proud struggle has left as a legacy.

You forgot to mention your vast wealth and property...you usually find a way to work that into the conversation too, much like John Kerry reminding everyone about his tour of Vietnam!

Slick my assertions about urban black youth killing at an incredibly disparate ratio to the rest of us are based in cold hard facts. You know it is true. You are trying to deflect my mention of it. Then tried to attack my character so that you can discredit my comments. Typical political hack tactics.

But what really bothers you is that I'm specifically blaming the community aggitator types who whip up votes for your party that have turned these young people into monsters. Contrary to your attempt to make look like I'm bigoted toward black Americans I have clearly placed the blame on the race-pimps never implied that the murderous behavior is inherent to any race.

and if anyone is perpetuating racial discord it is enablers like you who excuse this outrage because their victim status serves your purpose...much like it did your slave owning ancestors. The only difference is you don't use whips to get what you want from them you use crumbs from your plate and the promise that without you and your party the revenge you bred them to seek will not come.

[Will Robinson]

so gang violence(Chicago) equates to racial attacks. Nice dodge. Keep digging, Will, that hole is just getting deeper. You sure are enlightening us, but likely not about much beyond your own character.

For a guy that thinks so much of his intelligence you sure draw some stupid conclusions.....oh...wait....you were just misrepresenting my words into a straw man that you thought you might be able handle instead of taking my point and dealing with it honestly. Never mind.

[callmeslick]

Will, we all read your words, and thanks for sharing. Now, back to your regular programming. I will continue celebrating the electoral outcome!

[woodchip]

I seem to remember back during the 2000 election down in fla (you do remember the hanging chads) when a group of rebublican tie and sport coat wearing men went into a democratic controlled voting office (after the election) to check on procedures and the dems ran from them followed by stories about how violent republicans were terrorizing the democrats. Yet the New Black Panthers with clubs stand outside of voting precincts while people are in line to vote and that is quite OK.

[roid]

Will, i am shocked and disgusted

[roid]

I mean do you think you're not a racist? Is this why you feel ok typing this stuff?
You're afraid of a conspiracy of black men to come and kill you and your family, you are literally typing quite serious emails warning your family to be careful of black men because they are going to kill you, you are also warning an entire forum to be careful of black men because they are going to violently kill us all because we are white. Because black men are violent and they kill white men. Also you say that white men are "bred" differently, that we are not violent, that we're not racist, that we don't riot (particularly not about silly things like race) .... because of "breeding".

wow.


Please leave.
Stormfront is over that way, you seething biggot.

[woodchip]

I take Roidy, you have no kids. I warned my daughter about the same thing. I guess we will never know now and thats a good thing.

[callmeslick]

sorry to have to say it, Woody, but that is not a flattering commentary on you(and yes, I have a daughter and grandchildren, all living near a major midwestern urban area).

[woodchip]

Sorry to say it Slick but when it comes to my family I don't care if I'm flattering or if I am PC.

[callmeslick]

that's cool, Woody......your call completely.

[Will Robinson]

I mean do you think you're not a racist? Is this why you feel ok typing this stuff?
You're afraid of a conspiracy of black men to come and kill you and your family, you are literally typing quite serious emails warning your family to be careful of black men because they are going to kill you, you are also warning an entire forum to be careful of black men because they are going to violently kill us all because we are white. Because black men are violent and they kill white men. Also you say that white men are "bred" differently, that we are not violent, that we're not racist, that we don't riot (particularly not about silly things like race) .... because of "breeding".

wow.


Please leave.
Stormfront is over that way, you seething biggot.

Roid, I don't know if you are purposely 'misinterpreting' my comments so that they fit your stereotype of a racist white man or maybe you are subconsciously doing it because you genuinely hold those stereotypes as your default rationale.

Either way I would ask that you instead consider exactly what my words say....instead of fitting them into your preconceived bias.

On the 'breeding' thing, it may be a cultural/geographical thing. I know the grammar police would suggest you breed animals and rear children and raise potatoes however here in my area, when talking about children learning behavior, breed is a colloquial expression used to imply 'training'. So go back and replace all the instances of breed with train and replace breeding with training if you need to so that you are understanding what you are reading.

I don't mean to imply that white children are 100% prejudice free. Nor have I implied that black children are all extreme hate filled bigots with white people ingrained into their belief system as the enemy.

Of course the comments seem quite inflammatory, not that they truly are, unless the reader is a race baiting enabler of the practice that helped create the young black hate filled monsters. However, due to the usual practice of white people afraid of being called 'racsists' they have accepted the narrative that almost any criticism of a black person by a white person is first and foremost to be taken as a bigoted attack and then from there you must work backwards to prove the reason for your criticism is in fact based on the substance of your concerns instead.

So I reject the premise of your outrage, even if it is genuine and not a straw man argument as Slick likes to use. I think the idea that white people can't actually say the word '★■◆●' and instead must use the euphemism N word, even if the very topic of the conversation is the word ★■◆●, is a shining example of the situation I describe. I don't think it is at all helpful to normalizing race relations so I don't add to the problem. I call a small pointy shovel a spade with no fear of offending anyone that isn't a part of the problem. I don't use the word ★■◆● in any context of describing a black person because I find that to be very offensive. It is a terrible hateful thing to do and I often angrily correct some of the older peckerwood's around here if they use the word that way.

There is the difference. That is who I am.

Now can you find in my comments where I wasn't attributing the violent behavior to cultural upbringing? I don't think so. It certainly wasn't my intent and if you have been reading, with an open mind, you would see where I have already pointed this out...

Can you ignore the intent of my comments, exaggerate and twist them to fit your stereotype of me? Certainly you can.
You are free to be any kind of person you want to be.

[woodchip]

As to words how many here remember the black woman accusing a teacher of being racist because he used the word "denigrate". So where are you now roidy.

[vision]

I think the idea that white people can't actually say the word '★■◆●' and instead must use the euphemism N word, even if the very topic of the conversation is the word ★■◆●, is a shining example of the situation I describe.

Here is some insight.

[Tunnelcat]

Well we dodge the bullet.

For those of you who doubt there was any danger if Obama had lost after generations of race baiters exploitation of the black Americans I'll leave you to your delusions because the evidence of why, when and how easily black Americans can be stirred to violence is well documented.
The propensity of different groups, broken down by race, economics etc., to commit violent assaults is too well known. I don't feel a need to try to convince anyone that water is wet or that some white people were going to be targeted in the wake of white America kicking the black man out of the White House.
Want to meet the people Im talking about? Start taking evening walks by the waterside in Baltimore MD......lol.....(bring a pocket full of spare mags and practice your reloading drills before you do it please)

(If you are black and this offends you because you aren't one of these dangerous types, on a person to person level, I'm sorry it bothers you, but I'm not talking about all black people so I'm not sorry I'm speaking the truth about an issue that too many people are afraid to address. I'm talking about all the dangerous ones and there are so many that they warrant people outside their subset exercise extreme caution....actually even those within the group are like 20 times more likely to be killed!)

So, now, let me choke down some crow and own my poor reading of the electorate:

I'm surprised Obama could maintain that level of support in light of what has been happening, but then again, I obviously overestimated the 'light' and underestimated the effect of having really bad 'light' keepers.

My post election analysis is boiled down to this:

Give two politicians a billion dollars to spend on being elected.
They both spend it on labeling each other bad and both of them represent a promise of increased wealth to different sub sets of the voters.
One subset has more electoral college votes to be traded for the promised increase of wealth.
So we got the results we were supposed to get, right? The system as we have developed it worked perfectly.

My guy couldn't even get above 1% so it's not like I was looking for a win but 5% sure would open an important door but as long as 100 million fools think they can't live without a government tit to suck on my 5% goal is looking as grim as ever.

No, what happened was that the Republicans overreached with their morality legislation against women and their obstinate stand against even bipartisan immigration ideas (The Dream Act). Doing that pissed off 2 large, very important electoral groups. It was women and immigrants who told them to go packing. Just take a look at who lost in the Senate.

And maybe people realized that electing a man who was and is part of the very same group of Plutocrats that got us into this mess in the first place was not a good idea.

[Spidey]

Security companies hire hackers.

[Tunnelcat]

Don't get it.

[CUDA]

And maybe people realized that electing a man who was and is part of the very same group of Plutocrats that got us into this mess in the first place was not a good idea.

Ya but they elected Obama anyways. go figure

[Tunnelcat]

Obama's a politician. Romney's a Plutocrat. Both are bad in a democratic government, but putting Romney in charge is tantamount letting the fox guard the hen house, after that same fox has already raided the hen house and killed half the hens.

[flip]

Our democracy is a liability in a global democracy.

[roid]

Will if all of this racist stuff was brought up slowly, and NOT in the context of a black president and people who are different to you, and what that means to you, then it may have been way more palatable.
But the order that you have brought this all up, the chain of topics and logic that got you to here, .... just... ★■◆●, wow.
(You jumped right into the scared white man Republican racist cliche, very little hesitation, you still seem unaware of what has happened)

Election. Black president (again). First time round 4 years ago everyone was talking about the white-racist vote, and yeah even the black-racist vote. We all know

I mean i agree that black-racism is a thing, and a problem, and that it effects the vote.
But to bring it up in context of your own now obvious and blatant fear & racism, has completely poisoned the well. You must see this. You must also see that if you can't recognise how your own very real fear of black people makes you racist - if you can't see this, then you are not capable of entering into the debate/topic in any meaningful way. You have essentially excluded yourself.

This started as a topic about your own irrational predudices against Democrats. Then it steered into your irrational prejudices against African Americans, which was a completely different topic, (and holy ★■◆● how did you expect people to react to that, ... woa, but i digress, where was i).
Then it steered into your concerns about black-racism, which is a valid topic.
But unfortunately it's not the topic of this thread. Coz you now introduced a huge ★■◆●ing elephant in the way of that topic, and there'll be no pretending otherwise anymore. The topic at hand, is your unabashed fear of black people.

[Top Gun]

At this point roid, I think the only thing to hope for is that his kids didn't inherit all of his lunacy.

[roid]

cont...
I mean Will you literally took steps to warn not just your family about black people, but ALSO US.

Hey DBB, just a heads up, this is an important thing for me, you're all important to me, i don't want anyone hurt. So i just want you guys to know that black people are going to riot in the streets because of the result of a democratic election. Ok? You guys get that? Just wanted to give you the heads up, incase this was a thing you didn't know about. I'm a Republican, so I know about it, and i wanted to make sure you all knew about it. It's a thing. This is important, i'm posting a thread about it, it's real to me, and it should be real to you all too. Also this isn't an embarrassing personal revelation about me and i have no idea why anyone would think i'm racist just because i'm scared of black people and feel fine admitting my ignorant racist delusions to an entire public forum as if it's a normal ordinary thing and perfectly ok. Oh and did i mention in my OP i'm not voting for Obama, that probably has nothing to do with my fear of black people at all.

[dissent]

Hey Will. good to hear from you, bro'.

[Spidey]

roid your grasp of American society is pretty good for someone that probably has never even been here…not. And it’s not a case of fearing black people it’s much more conditional than that.

And furthermore your ability to bastardize, convolute and downright distort someone’s statements is just beyond comprehension.

BTW Will is not a Republican. So at least try to get your facts straight, propaganda works better that way.

[roid]

Oh and did i mention in my OP i'm not voting for Obama, that probably has nothing to do with my fear of black people at all.

jumped right into the scared white man Republican racist cliche

[flip]

Roid, I honestly don't expect you to understand any of the precepts or freedoms we still enjoy in this country, considering you have been completely stripped of yours. There was good reason to be concerned, if you lived in certain demographics. That's not racist, that's just a fact of life. I know what I'm talking about because I grew up in the South. It's chock-full of racist blacks and narrow-minded rednecks and I guess no amount of optimism is going to change that

[Will Robinson]

Roid,
You probably don't have a grasp of the dynamic here in America so that explains some of your misunderstanding of why my concerns are valid, some of it anyway...

However, it doesn't explain much of what you have wrong in your comments.
I posted a few links to black youths reacting violently to a stimulus that shouldn't be able to bring a rationale person to the brink of extreme violence and choosing their victim purely based on race. Those are not he only examples available.

But you completely, and obviously with a great deal of prejudice, distorted the chronology and context and substance of my comments and you either purposely or ignorantly misrepresented my character to fit your template of what a "racist" is. A word that...well....'I don't think it means what you think it does'.

No where do I attribute the behavior to genetics nor do I exhibit any belief tat my race is superior. So lose the 'racist' label.
Bigot is the allegation you are attempting to make but you are wrong again if you are trying to prove I'm bigoted to an entire race.

I clearly have singled out a subset of the black population. So if you want me to admit to being bigoted only toward people that perpetrate a 20X higher rate of violence on a regular basis...a group that often engages in seeking out white people to beat up for ridiculous or no reasons at all and they happen to be 99% black then you have it....I'm guilty as charged.

Like I said you can try to follow what I said or try to twist it into something else.
But in order for your rewrite of what I am saying to make sense a lot of reality must be ignored. I wonder if your perception of what things are like here is so wrong that my telling the truth about it without the usual excuses and sugar coating that the politically correct would add that it seems like I'm making things up...but if you tried to look into it you would find supporting evidence to help you realize that I told the truth.

The only potential threat I warned about is very very real.

Dispute them with fact or accept it. I provided you with some relevant examples that are very real, recent and occur all too often. You countered with rhetoric and personal attacks full of untruths trying to make me some evil person.

The cause I attribute the threat to is not based on any racist belief nor do I imply any racially inherent predisposition to perpetrate the violence I warned about.
I clearly described the source of these little monsters rationale for violent 'revenge'. It is their 'programming' done by the race pimping leaders of their parent group.

You avoided the meat of my comments. Why? (That is a rhetorical, answer your self honestly when no one is looking)

By the way, I voted FOR Obama in the 2008 primary, realized he wasn't what I'd hoped and went back to the Libertarians in the general election. You can search the archives to see if I'm telling you the truth.
I voted for the Libertarians again this time around thus my 1% comment...
You really don't know who I am, only what you want me to be.

[Top Gun]

So, uh...what was that about white people not having wide-scale ingrained bigotry anymore?

[Will Robinson]

So, uh...what was that about white people not having wide-scale ingrained bigotry anymore?

You are propping up a straw man to argue against.
I said that white people's level of bigotry has been brought down to the level that fits within the norm. All people are bigoted to favor their own to a certain degree. All species are likewise predisposed to prefer their own. It is nature at work, probably a built in defense mechanism. Go look it up, there are plenty of studies that will explain it better than I can

What I implied is that there is an artificially high level of hatred of white people programmed into black Americans. The genesis of that is justified but it was not allowed to die out. There was very little attempt to correct it as the justification for it died out. In fact there is an industry dedicated to keeping it alive and festering for the purpose of empowering the race-pimps.

The side effects of this are horrible and perpetuate racial division and are turning the inner city black communities into the democrat's Palestine. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Barrack Obama et al are the equivalent of Iranian clerics and the Ayatollah, the black communities are their Palestinian pawns.

You would have to be a moron, either willfully or by birth defect, to miss the distinction between racism and socio-political in my indictments at this point so I will stop defending them against ridiculous challenges and reserve my replies for any genuine attempt to discuss the painful truth.

[vision]

What I implied is that there is an artificially high level of hatred of white people programmed into black Americans. The genesis of that is justified but it was not allowed to die out. There was very little attempt to correct it as the justification for it died out. In fact there is an industry dedicated to keeping it alive and festering for the purpose of empowering the race-pimps.

The side effects of this are horrible and perpetuate racial division and are turning the inner city black communities into the democrat's Palestine. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Barrack Obama et al are the equivalent of Iranian clerics and the Ayatollah, the black communities are their Palestinian pawns.

Nope, wrong. Put yourself in the shoes of a young African-American struggling to make ends meet, then imagine how you would feel when you see the whitest guy in America, Mitt "moneybags" Romney, say 47% of the population wants a handout. I would be like "f-u whitey." In fact, I'm still like "f-u whitey" and I'm white. I'll agree with you about Sharpton and Jackson, they do go overboard with the race stuff, but rich, white republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the way people see them. They hate all minorities and that hate is totally transparent.

[Spidey]

Except for the large percentage of the “47%" that are white. If you perceive a statement like that to be racist, the bias might be in your mind.

Remember Blacks only make up some 15% of the population, and not all of them are poor.